Sounds like bunk. Therefore need a more reliable source.On page 3 of this thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...have-natural-gas-option-3.html#post1060266375
Except in the most odd and extreme of situations, no they don't. Try sourcing your claims instead of making them up.Batteries in cars catch on fire and present electrocution risk to people in crashes and first responders. [...]
Except in the most odd and extreme of situations, no they don't. Try sourcing your claims instead of making them up.
Sounds like bunk. Therefore need a more reliable source.
I'm not sure it's an efficient way to go, it's fine in cities to lower pollution. But otherwise, not sure it the best approach.
Aww not even 1 in my state.
As to diesel, it burns dirtier than gasoline (particularly with particulate emissions), and biodiesel has less energy content than regular diesel, although thermodynamically diesel is a more efficient internal combustion fuel than gasoline. Again, common knowledge . . . . .
Yes. It is sufficient to debunk your assertion that cars carrying batteries are similar in risk of explosion as cars carrying tanks of compressed flammable gas.Will this do?
The large, high-voltage batteries used in plug-in vehicles can be more easily damaged in a crash than traditional car batteries and create more potential to electrically shock occupants and rescuers. The Volt’s 400-pound, T-shaped battery extends under the middle of the car and between the back seats rather than fitting under the hood with the engine of a gas-powered vehicle.
“Based on the available data, N.H.T.S.A. does not believe the Volt or other electric vehicles are at a greater risk of fire than gasoline-powered vehicles,” the agency said in a statement. “In fact, all vehicles — both electric and gasoline-powered — have some risk of fire in the event of a serious crash.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/12/b...xamine-electric-car-batteries-after-fire.html
You can go out to my car right now and run your finger around the end of the exhaust and you get nothing. To say that biodregular diesel has less energy content compared to regular diesel means nothing. It still has more than RUG. I know that those who run a blend say that their mileage improves. Bio has better lubricity than ULSD.
Also depends on what you mean by "dirty". Diesel produces considerably less CO2 and less carbon monoxide per gallon than a comparable gas burner.
I can think of several things that you could run your finger around the end of that would prove exactly as much as what you are trying to infer above.You can go out to my car right now and run your finger around the end of the exhaust and you get nothing.
So, you deny the functions of the laws of thermodynamics. Interesting.To say that biodregular diesel has less energy content compared to regular diesel means nothing.
I now know people who stick their fingers stuck up their exhaust pipes and make similarly unverified and anecdotal claims.I know that those who run a blend say that their mileage improves. [...]
Not in dispute, but I feel uncomfortable discussing lubricity in light of the general thrust of your post.Bio has better lubricity than ULSD.
That is what I have heard too, new diesel motors burn cleaner than gasoline
diesels produce higher particles which cause smog,gas engines produce less particles and more c02 and carbon monoxide.the reason for that is compression and fuel type.higher compression engines burn fuel more efficiently and produce less carbon dioxide,but produce more particles which causes severe health problems,low compression produces opposite numbers for both.
natural gas is no different than propane or butane in that it leaves practically no emmissions,thats why fork lifts use one of the three fuels,so people in warehouses dont die of carbon monoxide or from choking.california has used natural gas in their buses for over a decade now with success.how natural gas propane and butane burn so clean is because they all boil at room temperature,causing 100 conversion from liquid to gas for combustion.gasoline only partially evaporates at room temperature and needs heat and compression to vaporize,but it never fully turns to vapor.diesel and other oily fuels need extreme compression to atomize enough to ignite,anywhere from 18-1 to 25-1,whereas gasoline needs 7.5 to one to run 87 octane.
arguing on whether natural gas will work or not is pointless,because lp gas has been used for decades with success and natural gas is not far from lp gas.infact if i remember correctly hippies used to convert vw vans and beetles to run on emissionless propane in the 60's and 70's.
Someone also mentioned Bio Diesel, sounds good, just one problem, in order to produce that bio diesel we have use or displace food crops. This is also the problem with Ethanol, however they are finding ways around this for Ethanol production. There may be a viable solution out there for Bio Diesel also.
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I think they can make biodiesel using previously used vegetable oil. Basically get the used stuff that McDonald's uses to make fries, blend it in and voila! Wouldn't need to be diverted from food at all.
I think they can make biodiesel using previously used vegetable oil. Basically get the used stuff that McDonald's uses to make fries, blend it in and voila! Wouldn't need to be diverted from food at all.
I think a couple of people have already pointed out the process, but do you think we could actually make a measurable dent in our diesel fuel consumption from fast food resturants? Diesel is used for tractors and harvesters, semi trucks, trains, mixed with karosene and naptha (if I remember right) as part of making jet fuel, RVs and Diesel pickups (used for RVs, hotshot rigs and small deliveries), delivery trucks and personal automobiles. While the total produced by fast food recycling into biodiesel might help with the passenger cars and some RVs, there just is not enough from that source to make an appreciatable difference in out National Daily consumption of Diesel. We need massive amounts of it, and that would mean using corn, soybean and other vegetables to make it.
Does anyone know if you can make Biodiesel from a Yucca Cactus? If so, that would go a long way towards a good supply. Think of the Desert Southwest where most of the land is useless without massive and costley irrigation, yucca grows there.
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