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New audio reveals McCarthy said Trump admitted bearing some responsibility for Capitol attack

fair minded said:
And why is this a surprise to you? Of course, Trump knows he could have handled things better.

First off, Trump should have pushed the Speaker Of The House harder when he asked her to provide more protection against possible lawbreakers.

Trump's request for Nancy to ask for troops to help defend the Capitol on Jan. 6 proves that Trump knew we needed to provide more protection. Nancy was the only one who could ask the President for troops and she wanted a riot so she refused to do her duty and allow Trump to provide those troops.

Trump should have publically demanded that Nancy ask for the protection she knew the Capitol needed.

Give me a break. Is there anyone out there who didn't know that more protection was needed when you expected a huge group of protestors who believed the election was stolen?

Trump should have pushed Nancy harder.

Perhaps Trump should have broken the law and ordered troops to the Capitol even after Nancy refused to ask for them?
Why did Nancy refuse to ask for help?

This one is on Nancy because she, and only she, was responsible for protecting the Capitol!
No one other than Nancy was legally allowed to ask for help. And Nancy knew that additional protection was needed.

If Nancy had asked for troops and Trump had refused, Trump would have been responsible.

The fact is that Nancy wanted a riot. Her refusal to ask for help proves that Nancy was personally responsible for the riot and the deaths that occurred on January 6.

Nancy gets 90% of the responsibility for causing the riot and those who didn't encourage her to ask for help share the other 10%.
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This has long been debunked.

“The Speaker of the House does not oversee security of the U.S. Capitol, the Capitol Police Board does, and the Speaker does not oversee the Board. The Board consists of three voting members: the Senate Sergeant at Arms, the House Sergeant at Arms, and the Architect of the Capitol; together with one non-voting member, the Chief of the Capitol Police.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/r...ce-attempt-to-cast-blame-on-pelosi-for-jan-6/
 
lwf said:
They are.
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Bullshit. She is off limits.

"Well, if you look at the charge that we have in the resolution, it says the facts and circumstances around January 6. I don't see the speaker being part and parcel to that. It's a free country, and people can say what they want. As to whether or not it has a place in this committee remains to be seen." Chairman Bennie
 
McCarthy's gonna get Epstein'd if he's not careful
 
Let's be real -- the reason McCarthy and McConnell flipped after their initial comments about the former guy having responsibiity is because the former guy threatened to start a third party guaranteeing GOP losses; had he been impeached.

The former guy has already come out since these tapes have been released and said "he is good with McCarthy". He cannot deny the conversations took place
 
The fact remains that the Speaker of the House is responsible for the security of the Capitol.
Not only Trump, but the Capitol Hill police asked Nancy for more security support.

My guess is that if Nancy's emails were checked we would find that Nancy wanted the Capitol to be breached.

I don't know what your job is but if you were warned multiple times about the safety of your people being in jeopardy, you might accept help when it was offered.
Trump told Nancy that there could be trouble and Trump asked her to put in a request for Federal Troops to provide protection for the Capitol.

Even if Trump caused the breach, Nancy was responsible for stopping it.

It was Nancy's responsibility to protect the Capitol. It was her responsibility, and her's alone.

Nancy refused help when everyone knew there could be a breach.

Nancy can claim total ignorance of anything that led up to the breach, but she cannot claim that she was not responsible for protecting the Capitol and the Congress people who were set to vote on Jan. 6.

Law enforcement people will tell you that the person who gains the most is usually the prime suspect.

Trump lost any chance of having investigations into voter fraud.

Nancy got total protection from the media so she was never asked why she wouldn't listen to the Capitol Police when they begged for support.

One simple question for you. Why did Nancy refuse to ask for help when she knew darn well that the Capitol needed more protection?
 
fair minded said:
The fact remains that the Speaker of the House is responsible for the security of the Capitol.
Not only Trump, but the Capitol Hill police asked Nancy for more security support.

My guess is that if Nancy's emails were checked we would find that Nancy wanted the Capitol to be breached.

I don't know what your job is but if you were warned multiple times about the safety of your people being in jeopardy, you might accept help when it was offered.
Trump told Nancy that there could be trouble and Trump asked her to put in a request for Federal Troops to provide protection for the Capitol.

Even if Trump caused the breach, Nancy was responsible for stopping it.

It was Nancy's responsibility to protect the Capitol. It was her responsibility, and her's alone.

Nancy refused help when everyone knew there could be a breach.

Nancy can claim total ignorance of anything that led up to the breach, but she cannot claim that she was not responsible for protecting the Capitol and the Congress people who were set to vote on Jan. 6.

Law enforcement people will tell you that the person who gains the most is usually the prime suspect.

Trump lost any chance of having investigations into voter fraud.

Nancy got total protection from the media so she was never asked why she wouldn't listen to the Capitol Police when they begged for support.

One simple question for you. Why did Nancy refuse to ask for help when she knew darn well that the Capitol needed more protection?
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Weird how this claim keeps coming up and right wingers never actually support it with evidence.
 
So, just who do the Capitol Police report to?

From Wikipedia (A left being controlled group.)

In addition to being the political and parliamentary leader of the House of Representatives and representing their congressional district, the speaker also performs various other administrative and procedural functions, such as:

 
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Credence said:
Let's be real -- the reason McCarthy and McConnell flipped after their initial comments about the former guy having responsibiity is because the former guy threatened to start a third party guaranteeing GOP losses; had he been impeached.

The former guy has already come out since these tapes have been released and said "he is good with McCarthy". He cannot deny the conversations took place
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Why would he deny it?
 
Rawley said:
Bullshit. She is off limits.

"Well, if you look at the charge that we have in the resolution, it says the facts and circumstances around January 6. I don't see the speaker being part and parcel to that. It's a free country, and people can say what they want. As to whether or not it has a place in this committee remains to be seen." Chairman Bennie
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"Remains to be seen."

And Pelosi isn't a part of it because she had no more authority over the capitol police than Mitch McConnel did. Therefore, the Jan 6 committee should be no more interested in her as it is in him.
 
lwf said:
"Remains to be seen."

And Pelosi isn't a part of it because she had no more authority over the capitol police than Mitch McConnel did. Therefore, the Jan 6 committee should be no more interested in her as it is in him.
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Subpeona them both. Call them both in and grill them as to why they told the Capitol police six times to **** themselves when they asked for the national guard.

www.npr.org

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

Steven Sund contradicts reports that help was not requested, saying security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed calls for assistance ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

Why not? Because Nancy's Partisan Circus of a Committee doesn't give a cap about the truth of January 6th. All they are interested in is anything they can use against Trump and REpublicans in the November and 2024 elections.

I would be refreshing if you admitted that truth.
 
fair minded said:
And why is this a surprise to you? Of course, Trump knows he could have handled things better.

First off, Trump should have pushed the Speaker Of The House harder when he asked her to provide more protection against possible lawbreakers.

Trump's request for Nancy to ask for troops to help defend the Capitol on Jan. 6 proves that Trump knew we needed to provide more protection. Nancy was the only one who could ask the President for troops and she wanted a riot so she refused to do her duty and allow Trump to provide those troops.

Trump should have publically demanded that Nancy ask for the protection she knew the Capitol needed.

Give me a break. Is there anyone out there who didn't know that more protection was needed when you expected a huge group of protestors who believed the election was stolen?

Trump should have pushed Nancy harder.

Perhaps Trump should have broken the law and ordered troops to the Capitol even after Nancy refused to ask for them?
Why did Nancy refuse to ask for help?

This one is on Nancy because she, and only she, was responsible for protecting the Capitol!
No one other than Nancy was legally allowed to ask for help. And Nancy knew that additional protection was needed.

If Nancy had asked for troops and Trump had refused, Trump would have been responsible.

The fact is that Nancy wanted a riot. Her refusal to ask for help proves that Nancy was personally responsible for the riot and the deaths that occurred on January 6.

Nancy gets 90% of the responsibility for causing the riot and those who didn't encourage her to ask for help share the other 10%.
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This is so twisted and idiotic!

The President has the sole authority to call out the National Guard within the District of Columbia. He does not have to seek permission from anyone.

The fact that he refused to respond for three hours after his riot started puts your entire post into a cocked hat.

This is a standard trump line that the noise machine tried to peddle for a few days after the riot.

They try and blame Pelosi for not asking for National Guard in advance.

She didn’t know that there was going to be a riot.

But McCarthy, Hawley, Cruz, Bannon, Miller and Trump did. It was their riot.


Now, Trump is publicly stating that he wish he could have been there. To lead the riot his skinhead friends started????


I guess Trump’ could have “handled it better”, and succeeded had he not squirreled out and hid in the White House like the coward and loser that he is.
 
Rawley said:
Subpeona them both. Call them both in and grill them as to why they told the Capitol police six times to **** themselves when they asked for the national guard.

www.npr.org

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

Steven Sund contradicts reports that help was not requested, saying security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed calls for assistance ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

Why not? Because Nancy's Partisan Circus of a Committee doesn't give a cap about the truth of January 6th. All they are interested in is anything they can use against Trump and REpublicans in the November and 2024 elections.

I would be refreshing if you admitted that truth.
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Why? You’re peddling an discredited lie.
 
lwf said:
"Remains to be seen."

And Pelosi isn't a part of it because she had no more authority over the capitol police than Mitch McConnel did. Therefore, the Jan 6 committee should be no more interested in her as it is in him.
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McConnell obviously knew about the plot. Pelosi did not.
 
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Rawley said:
Subpeona them both. Call them both in and grill them as to why they told the Capitol police six times to **** themselves when they asked for the national guard.

www.npr.org

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

Steven Sund contradicts reports that help was not requested, saying security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed calls for assistance ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

Why not? Because Nancy's Partisan Circus of a Committee doesn't give a cap about the truth of January 6th. All they are interested in is anything they can use against Trump and REpublicans in the November and 2024 elections.

I would be refreshing if you admitted that truth.
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What does that link have to do with Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell? Neither Nancy Pelosi nor Mitch McConnell had the authority to confirm or deny a request to bring in the National Guard. Neither one told Capitol Police to go **** themselves. There is no evidence that they were even aware of the request. From your link:

"Senior Army official Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt, director of the Army Staff, said on the call he couldn't recommend that Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy authorize deployment, Sund and others on the call told the Post. Piatt reportedly said, "I don't like the visual of the National Guard standing a police line with the Capitol in the background," the Post reported."
 
lwf said:
What does that link have to do with Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell? Neither Nancy Pelosi nor Mitch McConnell had the authority to confirm or deny a request to bring in the National Guard. Neither one told Capitol Police to go **** themselves. There is no evidence that they were even aware of the request.
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Which words did you not understand?

"The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress."
 
Rawley said:
Would be nice of the January 6th committee looked into that, wouldn't it?
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Why? You made a false claim.

There is no reason to investigate a made up right wing lie.
 
Rawley said:
Which words did you not understand?

"The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress."
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Those "security officials" are not Nancy Pelosi nor Mitch McConnell, nor do they answer to them.

https://thehill.com/policy/national...le-why-it-took-so-long-for-national-guard-to/
 
Rawley said:
Yes they do. The Sargent of Arms report directly to the Speaker and the Majority Leader.

www.politifact.com

PolitiFact - No, Capitol security is not only Pelosi’s responsibility, but she bears some

More than six weeks after supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, posts spread on Facebook c
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
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The Capitol Police Board answers to neither, however. The Speaker and the Majority Leader nominate the Sergeants at Arms, but the Capitol Police Board determines how best to secure the capitol. They even have the responsibility to override any orders given by the speaker or the majority leader (or the President) when security warrants it.

So there is no evidence that Pelosi or McConnell gave any orders regarding deployment of the National Guard, and even if they did, the Capitol Police Board would not have been required to follow them.
 
lwf said:
The Capitol Police Board answers to neither, however. The Speaker and the Majority Leader nominate the Sergeants at Arms, but the Capitol Police Board determines how best to secure the capitol. They even have the responsibility to override any orders given by the speaker or the majority leader (or the President) when security warrants it.

So there is no evidence that Pelosi or McConnell gave any orders regarding deployment of the National Guard, and even if they did, the Capitol Police Board would not have been required to follow them.
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I'm going stop posting support if you are not going to read the material. Seriously.

Chief of the Capitol Police begged Pelosi and McConnell's direct reports six times to deploy the National Guard ahead of January 6th.

Feel free to be an apologist for Pelosi and McConnell and Nancy's Partisan Circus Committee. But don't act offended when you get called out as a stooge when you post that Nancy's Partisan Circus Committee is even remotly interested in the truth of what happened surrounding the January 6th riot.
 
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