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Nevertrumpers.

GW Bush is a rino, he has been tried and confessed and agreed to be executed at camp 7 Gitmo, for his part in 911! Q 2024
 
Nope not that easy at all. The republican party was infected with Trumpism before Donald Trump showed up. It has been appealing to these deplorable white nationalist/ misogynistic bitter people in four year cycles for decades now. That coalition is going nowhere. Its about a core third of this party now, in many districts the GOP need those votes, and it will NOT go quietly into the night. The MAGA hats like their power, and they are not going to hand it over to establishment characters like George Bush or Paul Ryan. They will fight for Pence, Devin Nunes, Tom Cotton, Matt Gaetz, or Trump Jr.

Not sure who eventually wins but these wars will last at least a generation and they will be cutthroat nasty civil wars in the GOP and the GOP cannot rebrand and broaden, as long as it needs this 1/3 to tag along. You will NOT effectively compete for women, or hispanics or blacks or young voters in the presidential elections as long as your aspirants to that office need to kowtow to these MAGA hats in the primaries in Georgia, Alabama, Florida, the Carolinas, Missouri and yes Texas. You will not effectively compete in state elections for women, hispanics, blacks and young voters, if you need MAGA hatters to flood to the polls to win state legislative races.

The Democratic party said 'no' to George Wallace and the Dixiecrats lost steam ever since. You guys said 'yes' to Trump and you are in the fight of your life to even survive and remain relevant.

If the Republican Party does indeed go in the direction you describe, I can't imagine they will win many elections.
I just might be over estimating the sanity of the average voter, but there are those female and minority voters who aren't going to go along.
 
Remaining Republicans need to understand something: Never-Trumpers did not leave their party. Their party left them.

As the Rethuglican party continues to ramp up the crazy, people who find that they no longer have a home in that cult look elsewhere. Many of them see the big tent that is the Democratic party, and while they do not agree with everything that Biden stands for, he does two things that earn him their vote: He isn't crazy, no matter how much the trump supporters stamp their feet and insist otherwise, and he isn't trump.

What ramping up crazy are you talking about?
 
Once the Republican Party rids itself of Donald Trump, it can return to being the GOP and quit being the Party Of Trump. Because it went to POT in 2016 doesn't mean it can't once again be a legitimate political party.

That might take a few election cycles. It seems to me that many of the nevertrumpers are disenchanted with their republican congress critters for enabling Trump.
 
I am really starting to grow fond of nevertrumpers. They seem to be perfectly rational people. And sufficiently progressive. I vote that they make a new home in the BIG TENT. Dems will take all comers. Further making Republican party superfluous.

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A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers
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"The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats," Trump tweeted earlier this month. "Watch out for them, they are human scum!"
So, yeah. We'll keep a look out, Mr. President.


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Republicans who will not vote Trump need to join the democrat party. You cannot vote to support the democrat platform of pro abortion, green new deal, ending carbon fuel, open immigration, sanctuary cities, confiscating guns, no voting ID, defunding police and call your self a conservative. Go on and be a democrat.
 
Once the Republican Party rids itself of Donald Trump, it can return to being the GOP and quit being the Party Of Trump. Because it went to POT in 2016 doesn't mean it can't once again be a legitimate political party.

i hope that you're right. only having one choice that still sort of sucks is not a good setup. after what they've done, i'm going to have a big problem trusting them not to do it again.
 
i hope that you're right. only having one choice that still sort of sucks is not a good setup. after what they've done, i'm going to have a big problem trusting them not to do it again.

What the Republican party did to Mitt Romney going into the 2012 election said it all. He was a moderate Republican governor in a blue state and the pioneer of what would become Obamacare. Before turning "severely conservative" and railing against Obamacare.

There are a number of reasons he lost in 2012, but I think one of the biggest one was that right-wing extremists did not believe he was severely conservative enough.
 
What the Republican party did to Mitt Romney going into the 2012 election said it all. He was a moderate Republican governor in a blue state and the pioneer of what would become Obamacare. Before turning "severely conservative" and railing against Obamacare.

There are a number of reasons he lost in 2012, but I think one of the biggest one was that right-wing extremists did not believe he was severely conservative enough.

i think the difference is that he didn't stir up racial hatred, and Democrats showed up. the opposite happened in 2016.
 
Got it, people can't change, is that it?

Anyone who turned into a Leftists because Trump was elected was never a Conservative. Period.
 
Nevertrumpers are closet Liberals; RINO's at the very best. They can stop lying about their politics, now.

GWB is a liberal?
 
He's exposed himself as an establishment RINO.

That's kind of sad, because I bet you were a raging GWB and Iraq War supporter. That means you were a RINO back then
 
That's kind of sad, because I bet you were a raging GWB and Iraq War supporter. That means you were a RINO back then

You would lose that bet. :lamo
 
Says a guy that lies about being an independent...lol

Opposing Trump does not make one a partisan Democrat.
Believe it or not, I was a registered Republican until my party went crazy and nominated a conman and fraud to the White House.

and whatever I am doesn't make Trump any more of a conservative anyway.
 
Anyone who turned into a Leftists because Trump was elected was never a Conservative. Period.

Trump is not a conservative. Supporting him does not make one a conservative.
 
I'm a SometimesTrumper. I support the stuff he does that I like, an oppose the stuff I don't like.

There aren't many NeverTrumpers. Trump remains the most popular president among Republicans in living memory.
 
Anyone who turned into a Leftists because Trump was elected was never a Conservative. Period.

Interesting, you do know Trump has changed party affiliation 5 times and was a democrat from 2001 to 2009. So does that mean he was never a conservative and still isn't. Trumpies are funny.
 
Interesting, you do know Trump has changed party affiliation 5 times and was a democrat from 2001 to 2009. So does that mean he was never a conservative and still isn't. Trumpies are funny.

So?....
 
Opposing Trump does not make one a partisan Democrat.
Believe it or not, I was a registered Republican until my party went crazy and nominated a conman and fraud to the White House.

and whatever I am doesn't make Trump any more of a conservative anyway.

Supporting Leftist policies does, however. I've never noticed you supporting any Conservative policies. If I missed it, feel free to list the Conservative policies you're in favor of.
 
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