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I am really starting to grow fond of nevertrumpers. They seem to be perfectly rational people. And sufficiently progressive. I vote that they make a new home in the BIG TENT. Dems will take all comers. Further making Republican party superfluous.

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Revenge of the Never Trumpers: Meet the Republican Dissidents Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out of Office
Meet the '''Never Trumpers''' Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out | Time



A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers
A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers - CNNPolitics

"The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats," Trump tweeted earlier this month. "Watch out for them, they are human scum!"
So, yeah. We'll keep a look out, Mr. President.


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Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism

In my book, I explain Alinsky’s tactics by using current events. His book, Rules for Radicals, was written in the early seventies and includes thirteen tactics for the left to use against Conservatives in an effort to transform America to socialism. It was a blockbuster then and remains in many colleges today indoctrinating our kids to hate this country.
Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism - The Revolutionary Act
 

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I am really starting to grow fond of nevertrumpers. They seem to be perfectly rational people. And sufficiently progressive. I vote that they make a new home in the BIG TENT. Dems will take all comers. Further making Republican party superfluous.

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Revenge of the Never Trumpers: Meet the Republican Dissidents Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out of Office
Meet the '''Never Trumpers''' Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out | Time



A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers
A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers - CNNPolitics

"The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats," Trump tweeted earlier this month. "Watch out for them, they are human scum!"
So, yeah. We'll keep a look out, Mr. President.


#NeverTrumper Proud Never Trumper T-Shirt
Robot Check

Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism

In my book, I explain Alinsky’s tactics by using current events. His book, Rules for Radicals, was written in the early seventies and includes thirteen tactics for the left to use against Conservatives in an effort to transform America to socialism. It was a blockbuster then and remains in many colleges today indoctrinating our kids to hate this country.
Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism - The Revolutionary Act

Remaining Republicans need to understand something: Never-Trumpers did not leave their party. Their party left them.

As the Rethuglican party continues to ramp up the crazy, people who find that they no longer have a home in that cult look elsewhere. Many of them see the big tent that is the Democratic party, and while they do not agree with everything that Biden stands for, he does two things that earn him their vote: He isn't crazy, no matter how much the trump supporters stamp their feet and insist otherwise, and he isn't trump.
 

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Not sure our party is quite big enough, unless we stop standing up for the policies and values in our platform to keep them happy. I can respect them and welcome them to our effort to get rid of this wanna-be Musselini, and white nationalist, but I am not willing to do that for them.

They need a new moderate right centrist party that concentrates on small govt, low taxes, pro business , supply side economics, and hawkishness on defense. I want them comfortable in their new home. I don't especially want my party to appeal to any of that, and I don't want my party moving even on millimeter more to the right than it already has to make the neo-liberals and Bill Clinton and Al Gore comfortable.

We already talk enough about the middle class. Its time to remember that we have an underclass of poor to represent as well.
 
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Once the Republican Party rids itself of Donald Trump, it can return to being the GOP and quit being the Party Of Trump. Because it went to POT in 2016 doesn't mean it can't once again be a legitimate political party.
 

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I am really starting to grow fond of nevertrumpers. They seem to be perfectly rational people. And sufficiently progressive. I vote that they make a new home in the BIG TENT. Dems will take all comers. Further making Republican party superfluous.

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Revenge of the Never Trumpers: Meet the Republican Dissidents Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out of Office
Meet the '''Never Trumpers''' Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out | Time



A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers
A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers - CNNPolitics

"The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats," Trump tweeted earlier this month. "Watch out for them, they are human scum!"
So, yeah. We'll keep a look out, Mr. President.


#NeverTrumper Proud Never Trumper T-Shirt
Robot Check

Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism

In my book, I explain Alinsky’s tactics by using current events. His book, Rules for Radicals, was written in the early seventies and includes thirteen tactics for the left to use against Conservatives in an effort to transform America to socialism. It was a blockbuster then and remains in many colleges today indoctrinating our kids to hate this country.
Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism - The Revolutionary Act

I don't think so. You're wrong about the democrats taking all comers, most never Trumpers couldn't pass the Democratic Party's litmus tests. A lot of them are pro-life, definately a no no to joining the Democratic Party. A lot are pro 2nd Amendment, another no no. Medicare for Life, I don't think so, many are still against the ACA. No to illegal immigration, no open borders and so on.

It's one thing to be against Trump, but that doesn't mean you'll be received with open arms by the Democratic Party. You just seen how restrictive the Democratic Party is, how much they value their litmus tests. A pro-life Democratic congressman was primaried out about a month ago. New York is bringing suit against the NRA hoping to disband and end that organization. The Democratic Party continues to move further and further left, away from where most Americans are ideology, let alone Never Trumpers. It's one think to dislike the man, the individual, to think he's an obnoxious. thin skin egotistical fool. It's another thing to give up on the beliefs of a life time.

The Democratic Party isn't your grandfather's big tent party anymore. It's become a club for progressives who first shed their conservative wing and now are getting rid of all their moderates. Truth be told, the Democrats don't want anyone who isn't far left or who can't be termed progressive.

The Democratic Party is shrinking, from 51% of the electorate in 1964, down to 45% in 1976, down to 35% in 1985, down to 29% as of 23 July 2020. It's not that the Republican Party has grown, they haven't. 28% of the electorate in 1964 and 26% today. It's independents, the non-affiliated, the less to non-partisan's that have grown. From 20% in 1964 up to 40% today or as of 23 July 2020.

The Republican Party has always been a country club, the party of business. The Democratic Party use to be the party of the working man, not anymore. They're too much interested in which bathroom a transgender can use than to care about the working man.

Very few are welcomed into the Democratic Party anymore. Very few can pass their litmus tests.
 

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Nevertrumpers are closet Liberals; RINO's at the very best. They can stop lying about their politics, now.
 

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Remaining Republicans need to understand something: Never-Trumpers did not leave their party. Their party left them.

As the Rethuglican party continues to ramp up the crazy, people who find that they no longer have a home in that cult look elsewhere. Many of them see the big tent that is the Democratic party, and while they do not agree with everything that Biden stands for, he does two things that earn him their vote: He isn't crazy, no matter how much the trump supporters stamp their feet and insist otherwise, and he isn't trump.

As a NeverTrumper, I want to repeat this:

Never-Trumpers did not leave their party. Their party left them.

Our party left us for that piece of **** racist pig, Trump. We didn't leave it.
 

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Once the Republican Party rids itself of Donald Trump, it can return to being the GOP and quit being the Party Of Trump. Because it went to POT in 2016 doesn't mean it can't once again be a legitimate political party.

This-------------------^
 

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I am a never-Trump Republican and as soon as the party is led by a man worthy of my support, I will come back. I will not contribute to keeping the Trump experiment going any longer, I become more progressive and center by the day.
 

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Nevertrumpers are closet Liberals; RINO's at the very best. They can stop lying about their politics, now.

So is George W. Bush a Liberal or a RINO?
 

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I am a never-Trump Republican and as soon as the party is led by a man worthy of my support, I will come back. I will not contribute to keeping the Trump experiment going any longer, I become more progressive and center by the day.

Then, you were never a Conservative, to begin with.
 

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I'm just wondering how dems plan to reward a bloc of voters who are rigidly against M4A, free college, minority issues, and support tax cuts(for the rich, apparantly) and outsourcing, and interventionist wars all over the world(i.e. everything dems have fought against).
 

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Trump is not a conservative. He is a fraud.

At some point in the future the GOP will turn on Trump just as they did McCain.

Trump is the biggest con man ever. He is not even a very intelligent con man. The magic marker fiasco he did with the hurricane map shows you he is just a simpleton.
 

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I am really starting to grow fond of nevertrumpers. They seem to be perfectly rational people. And sufficiently progressive. I vote that they make a new home in the BIG TENT. Dems will take all comers. Further making Republican party superfluous.

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Revenge of the Never Trumpers: Meet the Republican Dissidents Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out of Office
Meet the '''Never Trumpers''' Fighting to Push Donald Trump Out | Time



A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers
A list of people Donald Trump has called 'Never Trumpers' who aren't Never Trumpers - CNNPolitics

"The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats," Trump tweeted earlier this month. "Watch out for them, they are human scum!"
So, yeah. We'll keep a look out, Mr. President.


#NeverTrumper Proud Never Trumper T-Shirt
Robot Check

Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism

In my book, I explain Alinsky’s tactics by using current events. His book, Rules for Radicals, was written in the early seventies and includes thirteen tactics for the left to use against Conservatives in an effort to transform America to socialism. It was a blockbuster then and remains in many colleges today indoctrinating our kids to hate this country.
Never-Trumper GOPers: Wake Up! It’s Trump Or Anarcho-Socialism - The Revolutionary Act

While I support what they are doing, I was never a fan of the neocons or much of their policy. These are the people who usually agree with the likes of John Bolton.
 

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Nevertrumpers are closet Liberals; RINO's at the very best. They can stop lying about their politics, now.

Trumpsters are the RINOs.
 

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Not sure our party is quite big enough, unless we stop standing up for the policies and values in our platform to keep them happy. I can respect them and welcome them to our effort to get rid of this wanna-be Musselini, and white nationalist, but I am not willing to do that for them.

They need a new moderate right centrist party that concentrates on small govt, low taxes, pro business , supply side economics, and hawkishness on defense. I want them comfortable in their new home. I don't especially want my party to appeal to any of that, and I don't want my party moving even on millimeter more to the right than it already has to make the neo-liberals and Bill Clinton and Al Gore comfortable.

We already talk enough about the middle class. Its time to remember that we have an underclass of poor to represent as well.

Thank you for your honest sensibility, btthegreat.

The Democratic Party needs to remain the party of middling-to-down-the-line liberalism/progressivism.

The Republican Party needs to return to being the party of middling-to-down-the-line conservatism.

Both Parties must represent the distinct interests of the American peoples and present a distinct choice.

Neither Party can or should pretend to cleave to all values and represent all the interests of all peoples.
 

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Once the Republican Party rids itself of Donald Trump, it can return to being the GOP and quit being the Party Of Trump. Because it went to POT in 2016 doesn't mean it can't once again be a legitimate political party.

Nope not that easy at all. The republican party was infected with Trumpism before Donald Trump showed up. It has been appealing to these deplorable white nationalist/ misogynistic bitter people in four year cycles for decades now. That coalition is going nowhere. Its about a core third of this party now, in many districts the GOP need those votes, and it will NOT go quietly into the night. The MAGA hats like their power, and they are not going to hand it over to establishment characters like George Bush or Paul Ryan. They will fight for Pence, Devin Nunes, Tom Cotton, Matt Gaetz, or Trump Jr.

Not sure who eventually wins but these wars will last at least a generation and they will be cutthroat nasty civil wars in the GOP and the GOP cannot rebrand and broaden, as long as it needs this 1/3 to tag along. You will NOT effectively compete for women, or hispanics or blacks or young voters in the presidential elections as long as your aspirants to that office need to kowtow to these MAGA hats in the primaries in Georgia, Alabama, Florida, the Carolinas, Missouri and yes Texas. You will not effectively compete in state elections for women, hispanics, blacks and young voters, if you need MAGA hatters to flood to the polls to win state legislative races.

The Democratic party said 'no' to George Wallace and the Dixiecrats lost steam ever since. You guys said 'yes' to Trump and you are in the fight of your life to even survive and remain relevant.
 
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What exactly makes him a RINO?

Its a peculiar thing. Once upon a time the phrase referred to moderate and centrist republicans from the north east or urban areas who had moved so far towards the center ideologically and socially, that there was virtually no difference between them and a centrist Dem. Nowadays traditional establishment republicans refer to Trump himself as 'Republican in name only' and point out how often he cooperated with Dems, donated to Dems and held decidedly un republican views in his recent adult past out of self interest as a New Yorker needed to gain influence and leverage in New York political circles. And Trump supporters refer to never trumpers as 'Rhino's because they do not support this president and his administration whether the opposition is from the far right, the center, or based on his perceived 'values' deficit. For Trump supporters, it means being disloyal to the party standard bearer and titular leader of the GOP, Donald Trump.

Republicans will be sorting this identity quagmire for the next 30 years.
 

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Wishful thinking. The GOP has always been filled with these monsters. They just took the mask off. "Nevertrumpers" are the minority, they are not the party.
 
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