Nevada Voters Complain Of Problems At Polls

[EnigmaO01]

I guess the narrative is being cast eh?


j-mac

Yep partisan hacks like you are going to scream bloody murder and a conspiracy if Reid wins. :lamo

 

[digsbe]

Yep partisan hacks like you are going to scream bloody murder and a conspiracy if Reid wins. :lamo

Same will be said of the other side if Angle wins. With any close election the losing candidate demands a recount and makes accusations of voter fraud. It knows no partisan affiliation.

 

[PeteEU]

Not sure what country you grew up in, but voter fraud is a problem regardless of who allegedly benefits from it.

Oh I agree, and in my country voter fraud is almost non-existent and if it happens carries heavy penalty.

However we have been down this road before. During the 2004 election there were many reports about people voting for Kerry or a democrat and the machine registering Bush or the republican candidate. Back then, the right brushed it off as they always do but now it is suddenly a problem?

 

[BWG]

YAWN!!! Another election, more baseless accusations. Cons crying again. The more things change.......:roll:

A report by the public-integrity section of the Justice Department found that from October 2002 to September 2005, the department charged 95 people with “election fraud”; 55 were convicted.

Among those, fewer than 20 people were convicted of casting fraudulent ballots, and only 5 were convicted of registration fraud. Most of the rest were charged with other voting violations, including a scheme meant to help Republicans by blocking the phone lines used by two voting groups that were arranging rides to get voters to the polls.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/27/us/politics/27fraud.html?hp

 

[soccerboy22]

I love this picture. It is in fact now becoming my background.

On topic: Five people really isn't that big of a deal considering how sensitive those machines are. However, if more and more people are reporting the same thing, than it maybe something to look into.

 

[PeteEU]

I love this picture. It is in fact now becoming my background.

On topic: Five people really isn't that big of a deal considering how sensitive those machines are. However, if more and more people are reporting the same thing, than it maybe something to look into.

45 people on a north Atlantic island decided a Danish election in the 1998. Did the right (who lost that election) complain and demand recount and take it to the courts? No, since we Danes have faith in our election system at all levels. The election stood and we had a socialist government for another 3 years before it was finally defeated at another election. I was very bitter in the 1998 election (since I was very very politically active then) and could not believe that the right wing parties had lost because of 45 inbred north Atlantic islanders (Yes I used more colourful words at the time.. Ironically my girl-friend at the time came from.. you guessed it..she was equally pissed, since her parents were lefties hehe) But I accepted it. But we (the right) took power 3 years later with the present NATO general secretary as Prime Minister and still hold power.. for now.

What I am trying to say, any election fraud can have grave consequences and an election system has to be made to prevent that. The very integrity of ones democratic system is at stake if you ask me. And as long as one or both sides can scream "election fraud" or "election based issues" then you have a problem with the system it self.

 

[Redress]

Can you just hear the right if this was 5 votes that had went their way? It would be a setup by the left to discredit the election.

 

[Ockham]

Can you just hear the right if this was 5 votes that had went their way? It would be a setup by the left to discredit the election.

Nope can't hear it... so let me understand - which of these excuses are you in support of?

- They're old people, they are confused
- They're old people, they forgot they checked Reid after they walked in
- This is all a vast right wing conspiracy
- This is all a misunderstanding and was taken out of context
- Someone "misspoke" about the incident
- Reid is the actual victim here (enter irrational baseless nonsense here ____________________).
- This is all Bush's fault (ie. BDS)
- Nothing to see here ... O'Donnell is a WWWWWIIIITTTTCHHHHHH!!

Or is it all of the above?

 

[soccerboy22]

Nope can't hear it... so let me understand - which of these excuses are you in support of?

- They're old people, they are confused
- They're old people, they forgot they checked Reid after they walked in
- This is all a vast right wing conspiracy
- This is all a misunderstanding and was taken out of context
- Someone "misspoke" about the incident
- Reid is the actual victim here (enter irrational baseless nonsense here ____________________).
- This is all Bush's fault (ie. BDS)
- Nothing to see here ... O'Donnell is a WWWWWIIIITTTTCHHHHHH!!

Or is it all of the above?

I know you asked that to Redress, but i would like to give my answer on it. I think that right now, with only five people, you can safely assume that it was more to do with the machines. They are fairly sensitive, or at least the ones I used were, so it isn't hard to believe that they mistakenly hit the wrong person's name without realizing it. I think with only five people it isn't enough evidence to say this is voter fraud.

 

[FilmFestGuy]

How much you want to bet harry Reid wins because of this **** right here? ****ing douche.

Wah! Old people can't use touch screens. Wah!

You haven't even lost and y'all are whining and making excuses already.

But, that's what you're good at. Whining, bitching, and moaning. You've already shown American that you're no good at leading - what with starting two wars without paying a dime for them, giving out huge tax cuts to the top 1% without cutting spending, failing in oversight of Wall Street and letting them walk away with tax-payer and investor dollars to line their pockets.

But, Americans have short memories. All you have to do is scream about Mexicans, Muslims, and Medicare and you can dupe them into voting for you. God, we're a gullible people.

 

[Redress]

Nope can't hear it... so let me understand - which of these excuses are you in support of?

- They're old people, they are confused
- They're old people, they forgot they checked Reid after they walked in
- This is all a vast right wing conspiracy
- This is all a misunderstanding and was taken out of context
- Someone "misspoke" about the incident
- Reid is the actual victim here (enter irrational baseless nonsense here ____________________).
- This is all Bush's fault (ie. BDS)
- Nothing to see here ... O'Donnell is a WWWWWIIIITTTTCHHHHHH!!

Or is it all of the above?

It was a problem with the machines being sensitive and the users. All 5 cases in how many people voting. Oh wow, that is the most likely answer...

 

[Ockham]

I know you asked that to Redress, but i would like to give my answer on it. I think that right now, with only five people, you can safely assume that it was more to do with the machines. They are fairly sensitive, or at least the ones I used were, so it isn't hard to believe that they mistakenly hit the wrong person's name without realizing it. I think with only five people it isn't enough evidence to say this is voter fraud.

I agree - but then again, I'll go back the whining of 2004 and the year long complaint of a stolen election and that came from Democrats. Now when it's in their favor, it's to be dismissed so easily? You see the hypocrisy here... and ah, who was arrested and what fraud was identified in 2004? :think: Taking partisan politics out of it, of course there's not enough evidence yet. The problem with that is, once there is enough evidence the person elected won't be recalled. I seem to remember something with Franken in the 2008 elections... about voter fraud and convicted felons. It's now 2010 and Franken is still there... :shrug:

The bottom line is, if one party can get away with fraud, even if it's found years later, nothing is done about it.

 

[soccerboy22]

I agree - but then again, I'll go back the whining of 2004 and the year long complaint of a stolen election and that came from Democrats. Now when it's in their favor, it's to be dismissed so easily? You see the hypocrisy here... and ah, who was arrested and what fraud was identified in 2004? :think: Taking partisan politics out of it, of course there's not enough evidence yet. The problem with that is, once there is enough evidence the person elected won't be recalled. I seem to remember something with Franken in the 2008 elections... about voter fraud and convicted felons. It's now 2010 and Franken is still there... :shrug:

The bottom line is, if one party can get away with fraud, even if it's found years later, nothing is done about it.

I don't know if it is being dismissed, but rather 5 people complaining about something on sensitive machines isn't much right now. The stolen election thing is funny because if Democrats wanted to blame anyone they should blame Nader because those that voted for Nader most likely would have voted for Gore, giving him Florida. However, I do think that people who commit voter fraud should be charged and brought before a jury.

 

[RedAkston]

It doesn't matter to me whether this is fraud in favor of the democrats or the republicans. What matters to me - is this fraud? It should be investigated and those responsible should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I don't care what side of the aisle these folks reside, if this is a problem, it needs to be dealt with.

In this thread, we've seen the resident partisan hacks on both sides cry right out of their playbooks. And of course, Petey made his usual "blah, blah, blah, Bush, blah, blah" appearance. It doesn't matter if it's the democrats doing this or the republicans doing this, it needs investigated. It might turn out to be nothing at all, but it is suspicious enough to warrant a further look. Voter fraud is a big problem no matter who is committing it. This may turn out to be nothing at all, but it has the appearance of foul play and I ould like it looked into further. And for the record, I would feel the same exact way and say the same exact thing if it was Angle's name that was checked ahead of time instead of Reid's.

 

[DarkWizard12]

"Wah! Old people can't use touch screens. Wah!"
You haven't even lost and you all are whining and making excuses already.

But, you're good at whining, bitching, and moaning. You've already shown Americans that you're not good at leading - what with (ambiguous clause)starting two wars without paying a dime for them, (ambiguougs clause)giving out huge tax cuts to the top 1% without cutting spending, (ambiguous clause)failing in oversight of Wall Street and (ambiguous clause)letting them walk away with taxpayer and investor dollars to line their pockets.

But, Americans have short memories. All you have to do is scream about Mexicans, Muslims, and Medicare and you can dupe them into voting for you. God, we're a gullible people.

Corrected.

 

[FilmFestGuy]

Corrected.

Thank you, Miss Pritchet. But my point stands. Sorry for colloquialisms and writing in a conversational style instead of getting out my APA Handbook. Or would you prefer MLA?

 

[DarkWizard12]

Thank you, Miss Pritchet. But my point stands. Sorry for colloquialisms and writing in a conversational style instead of getting out my APA Handbook. Or would you prefer MLA?

Oh, there was a point in there? I apologize, I could not see it behind all the "whining, bitching, and moaning".

 

[RedAkston]

Moderator's Warning:

FFG and DW, let's tone it down a bit shall we?

 

[DarkWizard12]

^---I'm just letting him do the talking, mostly.

 

[Redress]

I agree - but then again, I'll go back the whining of 2004 and the year long complaint of a stolen election and that came from Democrats. Now when it's in their favor, it's to be dismissed so easily? You see the hypocrisy here... and ah, who was arrested and what fraud was identified in 2004? :think: Taking partisan politics out of it, of course there's not enough evidence yet. The problem with that is, once there is enough evidence the person elected won't be recalled. I seem to remember something with Franken in the 2008 elections... about voter fraud and convicted felons. It's now 2010 and Franken is still there... :shrug:

The bottom line is, if one party can get away with fraud, even if it's found years later, nothing is done about it.

I would point out that I called for a thorough investigation into the voting in the Franken case, and also that it was not nearly as cut and dry as your article makes it out to be(ie, felons can vote after doing their time in Minn, and some other things). I also called for this to be thoroughly investigated since any potential for voter fraud should be taken very seriously.

None of that makes it likely that voter fraud is likely, but you will notice that has not slowed down the suggestion of such, just as the fact that the Rand Paul protester incident is probably what it appears to be, but that did not slow down people immediately questioning if the people might not be democratic plants. This type of thing is going on alot, when something happens, immediately claim it's a conspiracy by the other side.

 

[Navy Pride]

I don't know if it is being dismissed, but rather 5 people complaining about something on sensitive machines isn't much right now. The stolen election thing is funny because if Democrats wanted to blame anyone they should blame Nader because those that voted for Nader most likely would have voted for Gore, giving him Florida. However, I do think that people who commit voter fraud should be charged and brought before a jury.

Yeah if not for Perot in 1992 we would never heard of "Slick Willie" and Monica...............

 

[soccerboy22]

Yeah if not for Perot in 1992 we would never heard of "Slick Willie" and Monica...............

Actually studies have shown that Perot stole vote from the anti-incumbent candidate which was President Clinton. So chances are without Perot President Clinton would have won by more.

edit: I just emailed my professor asking him for the studies to show you.

 

[disneydude]

Yeah if not for Perot in 1992 we would never heard of "Slick Willie" and Monica...............

and if it wasn't for an activist Supreme Court we would have never had the disastarous GWB presidency.

 

[soccerboy22]

and if it wasn't for an activist Supreme Court we would have never had the disastarous GWB presidency.

Actually if you want to blame some one blame Nader. Chances are if Nader didn't run then Gore would have either won Florida and/or other closely contested states.

 

[RedAkston]

Actually if you want to blame some one blame Nader. Chances are if Nader didn't run then Gore would have either won Florida and/or other closely contested states.

It's more fun to watch him blame the Supreme Court than to deal with the facts. He's ben clinging to the 2000 election for soooooooooooo long now.