Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border

[Orion]

Like it or not, they aren't breaking the law.

We don't need thought police, not even for wannabe Nazi's.

I'm not in favor of any vigilante group patroling the border and doing the job of authorities. If they aren't the authorities or part of a state militia, then they lack training and have no business doing a job that isn't theirs, especially since they are doing it under the guise of hate. It's public property and they should shove off.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

I'm not in favor of any vigilante group patroling the border and doing the job of authorities. If they aren't the authorities or part of a state militia, then they lack training and have no business doing a job that isn't theirs, especially since they are doing it under the guise of hate. It's public property and they should shove off.

Legally though, no one can do a thing to them.

I don't agree with their message but so far they haven't hurt anyone otherwise they would be facing charges.

 

[Zyphlin]

Like it or not, they aren't breaking the law.

We don't need thought police, not even for wannabe Nazi's.

^---- What he said

I don't like them, I don't like what they're goal is, but unless they're breaking the law what is the government supposed to do?

OK, would you be cool with the New Black Panther party patrolling the suburbs of Atlanta?

"Cool" with, or think the government should do something about it?

OK, so we take a group that adores Adolf Hitler, and is racist as hell, and we give them the right to do law enforcement? Not in MY country we don't.

Who is giving them the right to do law enforcement?

Didn't you spend 6 years complaining about pre-emptive war and stripping away of civil liberties, but now you're pushing for pre-emptive stripping of civil liberties of individuals because you dislike their message and they MAY do something criminal?

 

[Cold Highway]

Hopefully the drug gangs and the neo-nazi filth end up killing each other. Two pieces of scum with one bullet.

 

[Catz Part Deux]

I'd like to deport the illegals AND the neo-nazi idiots.

 

[VanceMack]

This part of my link says it all. What I want to know is if the Arizona government is going to put a stop to this group, or if it is going to turn a blind eye to a swastika wearing group that would, in a heartbeat, fire up the ovens for the Jews again, if given half a chance. Whether or not you believe that Arizona is doing the right thing with its new laws, you certainly don't want scum like these patrolling the border. This is America, dammit!! Send these slimeballs back to Stormfront, where they belong.

Article is here.

Or get them to agree to not patrol the fences again til 2012...

 

[jamesrage]

I'm not in favor of any vigilante group patroling the border and doing the job of authorities. If they aren't the authorities or part of a state militia, then they lack training and have no business doing a job that isn't theirs, especially since they are doing it under the guise of hate. It's public property and they should shove off.

If all they are doing is reporting illegal crossings to the border patrol and putting up fence then they are not taking the law into their hands. What they are doing is the equivalent of a neighbor reporting a burglary or a auto accident,surely you wouldn't call such an individual a vigilante.

 

[Agent Ferris]

This part of my link says it all. What I want to know is if the Arizona government is going to put a stop to this group, or if it is going to turn a blind eye to a swastika wearing group that would, in a heartbeat, fire up the ovens for the Jews again, if given half a chance. Whether or not you believe that Arizona is doing the right thing with its new laws, you certainly don't want scum like these patrolling the border. This is America, dammit!! Send these slimeballs back to Stormfront, where they belong.

Article is here.

Arizona nazi's? I hate Arizona nazi's!

 

[theangryamerican]

Hopefully the drug gangs and the neo-nazi filth end up killing each other. Two pieces of scum with one bullet.

You know, I think you may be on to something here. At least if one of the socialists stops some drug runner lead, we haven't lost a valuable member of society. It's a win-win situation

 

[danarhea]

Well Dana I know your at least part Jew, like me, and even though these guys would be more than happy to see our asses out of here, I'd like to think that supporting their right to assemble peaceably and their right to free speech is more important than any individual getting offended.

So far they haven't done anything violent, in fact they have notified the border patrol when they have encounter illegal border crossings, including giving those illegal aliens water.

They aren't exactly flipping on the gas chambers.

Neither were the Brownshirts at first.

With all due respect, I honestly feel that you cannot allow an organization that is totally anti American, and spurns everything that is decent, to put themselves in a position that would lead people to believe that they represent our values. We, as the American people, deserve better, much better.

 

[MaggieD]

With all due respect, I honestly feel that you cannot allow an organization that is totally anti American, and spurns everything that is decent, to put themselves in a position that would lead people to believe that they represent our values.

With all due respect, what should we do about it if they aren't violating any laws? Or doesn't that matter?

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

 

[TheNextEra]

Neither were the Brownshirts at first.

With all due respect, I honestly feel that you cannot allow an organization that is totally anti American, and spurns everything that is decent, to put themselves in a position that would lead people to believe that they represent our values. We, as the American people, deserve better, much better.

Regardless, this group has done nothing illegal. It is not illegal for a group like this to patrol a border anymore than it is illegal for them to walk down a street.

What WILL be a determining factor is if they DO something illegal when they find an illegal crossing over.

I don't like this group patrolling the border, I think it sends the wrong message. However, messages in the U.S. are not illegal at face value just because we don't like the group.

If I were a person from Arizona, I would feel embarrassed that a group like this was doing this job instead of someone that works for the state.

 

[Barbbtx]

UGH!!! I just researched this dude. He is a real piece of garbage.He has said things so disgusting, I won't repeat them.
Obama! Do your job so this trash doesn't have to.

 

[jamesrage]

Neither were the Brownshirts at first.

With all due respect, I honestly feel that you cannot allow an organization that is totally anti American, and spurns everything that is decent, to put themselves in a position that would lead people to believe that they represent our values. We, as the American people, deserve better, much better.

Most people know that these scum do not represent our values. The only people who would try to lump these scum in with the Minutemen and other patriotic groups are scum who would have something to lose if illegal immigration was stopped and or our borders adequately secured. Heck they are already were doing this before the nazis decided to patrol the border. Pro-illegals have the minutemen labeled as hate groups,look up southern poverty law center and any other pro-illegals websites. If they want to patrol the border and notify the border patrol of illegal crossings then let them.

I am sure that every individual who would mock a christian group for refusing to take donations from strippers and pot dispensaries(Californian word for pot dealer) would agree that it is silly to refuse help from a group just because you disliked them.

 

[Captain America]

What a country! Arizona doesn't need this sort of "impression" dumped on their shoulders when they are doing all they can to show that their efforts are not racial.

My prayers are for Arizona. They are only doing this because they HAVE to. The federal government, especially the administration in there now, won't do much more than put on a dog and pony show. Offer a token band-aid solutiuon. It would cost them WAY to many latino votes. But their mistake is not listening to a MAJORITY of their voting block that DOES support Arizona. The proverbial rock and hard place.

 

[Cold Highway]

You know, I think you may be on to something here. At least if one of the socialists stops some drug runner lead, we haven't lost a valuable member of society. It's a win-win situation

If it were up to me I would lock them all in a huge arena and make them fight to the death for sport.

 

[jamesrage]

What a country! Arizona doesn't need this sort of "impression" dumped on their shoulders when they are doing all they can to show that their efforts are not racial.

How does this reflect bad on Arizona? Did Jan Brewer or some other elected official in Arizona invite these people to patrol the border? The only ones making out what Arizona is doing is racial are pro-illegals and illegals, you the know the people with something to lose by Arizona enforcing anti-illegal immigration laws and other states following their lead.

 

[TheNextEra]

The only ones making out what Arizona is doing is racial are pro-illegals and illegals, you the know the people with something to lose by Arizona enforcing anti-illegal immigration laws and other states following their lead.

Yeah because those NeoNazi's are such a loving and caring group, nothing racial about those guys. :doh

 

[jamesrage]

Yeah because those NeoNazi's are such a loving and caring group, nothing racial about those guys. :doh

Yes I know the nazis are a bunch of racist and motivate by race, but how does that reflect on Arizona?

 

[BmanMcfly]

Yes I know the nazis are a bunch of racist and motivate by race, but how does that reflect on Arizona?

Yes, it's a reflection of anyone and everyone that supports border control and wants to send illegal immigrants back to where they came. Now, they can all be labeled as nazi lovers... or, if you say you support these nazis patrolling the border, then they can jump and say : "So you support national socialism, eh."

 

[apdst]

I'm not in favor of any vigilante group patroling the border and doing the job of authorities. If they aren't the authorities or part of a state militia, then they lack training and have no business doing a job that isn't theirs, especially since they are doing it under the guise of hate. It's public property and they should shove off.

You're from Canada! What the hell do you know?!?

That being said, no, these clowns aren't breaking any law, unless they kill someone. That being said, these goofballs are ****ing trash, just like the black panthers and shouldn't be there, representing our country.

 

[jamesrage]

Yes, it's a reflection of anyone and everyone that supports border control and wants to send illegal immigrants back to where they came.

No it isn't.Its like saying Code pink is a reflection of everyone who opposes the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, that PETA is a reflection of all vegetarians, that catholic priest who molest children are reflection of all catholic priests and so on.

Now, they can all be labeled as nazi lovers.

No they can't

. or, if you say you support these nazis patrolling the border, then they can jump and say : "So you support national socialism, eh."

I could care less what they do just as long as they are not breaking the law.If they want to play neighborhood watch on the border then who cares.

 

[BmanMcfly]

No it isn't.Its like saying Code pink is a reflection of everyone who opposes the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, that PETA is a reflection of all vegetarians, that catholic priest who molest children are reflection of all catholic priests and so on.


No they can't



I could care less what they do just as long as they are not breaking the law.If they want to play neighborhood watch on the border then who cares.

I agree... but what I'm saying is that in the media, this will be used as a way of subtle demonization by association. Now, because neo-nazi groups support closing the border, it can be implied that everyone that supports closing the border are neo-nazis. It's stupid, but propaganda like this is aimed at the lowest common denominator, when heard as a sound bite.

You're from Canada! What the hell do you know?!?

I'm also from Canada... and I know because this is part of the SPP plan to incorporate the US, Canada, and Mexico... and using the illegal aliens is a part of that. Except, the transition was supposed to happen before Mexico collapsed in on itself, and that's beginning to happen already. The documents themselves have been discovered by FOIA requests. They are available at www.judicialwatch.com So, YES, I'm not from the US, but if the US goes down Canada will follow soon after.

That being said, no, these clowns aren't breaking any law, unless they kill someone. That being said, these goofballs are ****ing trash, just like the black panthers and shouldn't be there, representing our country.

Yes, they are trash and should be shunned for their views, but allowed the right to express themselves... if they break the law, then they should be brought to justice, but if they are getting shot at, they would have the right to shoot back.

It's stupid, and I somehow get a bad vibe that these people would combine something so abhorrant to the majority of the population with something that is popular... which gives me the impression that the event is somehow staged.

 

[jamesrage]

I agree... but what I'm saying is that in the media, this will be used as a way of subtle demonization by association. Now, because neo-nazi groups support closing the border, it can be implied that everyone that supports closing the border are neo-nazis. It's stupid, but propaganda like this is aimed at the lowest common denominator, when heard as a sound bite.


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The media already does this and they will be laughed at when they try or the media will get ignored. Look at the minutemen,even though they are a racially and ethnically diverse group they get labeled racist and these claims of racism are not even based on anything.

 

[Zyphlin]

You're from Canada! What the hell do you know?!?.

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