Nearly Half of Young Americans Believe US Is Racist and Not 'Greatest' Country, Survey Finds

[TU Curmudgeon]

From FOX News

Nearly Half of Young Americans Believe US Is Racist and Not 'Greatest' Country, Survey Finds
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An alarming new online survey found that national pride is falling among the next generation.

The survey, conducted by polling firm YouGov, reveals that many members of the younger generation (under 38 -- Generation Z and millennials) do not identify with patriotism or American exceptionalism.

The Foundation for Liberty and American Greatness, which sponsored the survey, highlighted some key findings, including that 46 percent of respondents do not agree that America is the greatest country in the world, half believe the country is sexist (50 percent) and racist (49 percent), and 47 percent say America's future should be driven by socialism over capitalism.

Other findings include:

COMMENT:-

Just two minor points before everyone flies into a flap over the results:

1. "On-line polls" are notoriously inaccurate because they have a marked tendency to use a "self-selected population"; and
2. the number of people that it requires to obtain statistically reliable results (+/- 3.5%) 95% of the time if the "population" is around 13,500,000 is around 400. The population of 14 to 17 year olds in the US is around 13,500,000. The number of responses for that demographic in this survey was 100. Using only a sample size of 100 produces a "confidence interval" of +/- 50%. [What that means is that, with the surveyed population in this survey, if the recorded result was 50%, then the actual result could be someplace between a low of 0.00% and a high of 100%.

PS - If you take a look at the actual survey questions asked, you will also see that they are incredibly sloppily worded and use terms that are so subjective that it is impossible to tell if one person giving an answer is actually responding to the same OBJECTIVE question that another person who gives the same answer is.
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[Kal'Stang]

Even taking into account your accurate summation of online polls, the results actually don't surprise me and I wouldn't doubt the accuracy all that much. I actually wouldn't be surprised if a more accurate type of polling would find much higher numbers.

 

[TheParser]

If those poll results are accurate, then people under 38 years of age are, well, "misinformed."

In fact, the United States of America in 2018 is the probably the least "racist" and least "sexist" nation in this world.


No nation in the world goes as far as the United States of America in according rights (and some privileges) to ALL ethnicities and women.

 

[NoParty]

This will come as a huge shock to almost all without children in public schools. Those of us who do or did recently, completely understand.

 

[MSgt]

If those poll results are accurate, then people under 38 years of age are, well, "misinformed."

In fact, the United States of America in 2018 is the probably the least "racist" and least "sexist" nation in this world.


No nation in the world goes as far as the United States of America in according rights (and some privileges) to ALL ethnicities and women.

This is de jure versus de facto.

De jure = In law.
De facto = In practice.

It's like dismissing the reality behind the Civil Rights Marches because the Declaration and the Constitution said all is well. One of the reasons the U.S. "goes as far" is that it is trying to overcome the base instincts of racism, bigotry, and sexism that deep-rooted religion and centuries of institutional slavery created.

 

[HonestJoe]

PS - If you take a look at the actual survey questions asked, you will also see that they are incredibly sloppily worded and use terms that are so subjective that it is impossible to tell if one person giving an answer is actually responding to the same OBJECTIVE question that another person who gives the same answer is.

Rather than sloppy I’d suggest that was entirely intentional so that whatever the actual results, they’d be able to spin some eye-catching headlines from them to grab valuable mainstream media coverage and promote their pre-determined conclusions.

 

[Thoreau72]

From FOX News

Nearly Half of Young Americans Believe US Is Racist and Not 'Greatest' Country, Survey Finds
​

An alarming new online survey found that national pride is falling among the next generation.

The survey, conducted by polling firm YouGov, reveals that many members of the younger generation (under 38 -- Generation Z and millennials) do not identify with patriotism or American exceptionalism.

The Foundation for Liberty and American Greatness, which sponsored the survey, highlighted some key findings, including that 46 percent of respondents do not agree that America is the greatest country in the world, half believe the country is sexist (50 percent) and racist (49 percent), and 47 percent say America's future should be driven by socialism over capitalism.

Other findings include:

COMMENT:-

Just two minor points before everyone flies into a flap over the results:

1. "On-line polls" are notoriously inaccurate because they have a marked tendency to use a "self-selected population"; and
2. the number of people that it requires to obtain statistically reliable results (+/- 3.5%) 95% of the time if the "population" is around 13,500,000 is around 400. The population of 14 to 17 year olds in the US is around 13,500,000. The number of responses for that demographic in this survey was 100. Using only a sample size of 100 produces a "confidence interval" of +/- 50%. [What that means is that, with the surveyed population in this survey, if the recorded result was 50%, then the actual result could be someplace between a low of 0.00% and a high of 100%.

PS - If you take a look at the actual survey questions asked, you will also see that they are incredibly sloppily worded and use terms that are so subjective that it is impossible to tell if one person giving an answer is actually responding to the same OBJECTIVE question that another person who gives the same answer is.
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Maybe this means that the younger generation is more aware of the crimes of government. After all, this is the Age Of Snowden and Assange. This is the age of perpetual war brought under fraud and maybe the younger generation is aware of that.

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Fact is, its no the greatest. People can be ignorant people and think they must blindly say the US is the greatest country ever, but there is so much shame on this country. In fact, there always has been, but phony patriots just ignore the ugly of our history and just blinding bang the patriotic drums.

For the richest country in the world, our wealth disparity and poverty is appalling. Our education system sucks. our healthcare sucks. We are falling behind on strengh of our patent system. We are losing out on being the leaders of new emerging industries. Our foreign policy is that of hypocritical bullies. And we have a large percentage of the population who are racist, hateful idiots

Oh, but we are really good at killing brown people across the world and being in constant war to fund the defense contractors

 

[Kreton]

Fact is, its no the greatest. People can be ignorant people and think they must blindly say the US is the greatest country ever, but there is so much shame on this country. In fact, there always has been, but phony patriots just ignore the ugly of our history and just blinding bang the patriotic drums.

For the richest country in the world, our wealth disparity and poverty is appalling. Our education system sucks. our healthcare sucks. We are falling behind on strengh of our patent system. We are losing out on being the leaders of new emerging industries. Our foreign policy is that of hypocritical bullies. And we have a large percentage of the population who are racist, hateful idiots

Oh, but we are really good at killing brown people across the world and being in constant war to fund the defense contractors

There is shame in every country that has done great things. To my knowledge there is no country that has only engaged morally and humanely throughout it's history while accomplishing anything close to what the US has. The US has saved the world IMO. Not many countries can make that claim. Despite our flaws America is a country to be proud of.

However America today is an embarrassment. America is the sum of it's people and the American people are a disgrace.

 

[chuckiechan]

From FOX News

Nearly Half of Young Americans Believe US Is Racist and Not 'Greatest' Country, Survey Finds
​

An alarming new online survey found that national pride is falling among the next generation.

The survey, conducted by polling firm YouGov, reveals that many members of the younger generation (under 38 -- Generation Z and millennials) do not identify with patriotism or American exceptionalism.

The Foundation for Liberty and American Greatness, which sponsored the survey, highlighted some key findings, including that 46 percent of respondents do not agree that America is the greatest country in the world, half believe the country is sexist (50 percent) and racist (49 percent), and 47 percent say America's future should be driven by socialism over capitalism.

Other findings include:

COMMENT:-

Just two minor points before everyone flies into a flap over the results:

1. "On-line polls" are notoriously inaccurate because they have a marked tendency to use a "self-selected population"; and
2. the number of people that it requires to obtain statistically reliable results (+/- 3.5%) 95% of the time if the "population" is around 13,500,000 is around 400. The population of 14 to 17 year olds in the US is around 13,500,000. The number of responses for that demographic in this survey was 100. Using only a sample size of 100 produces a "confidence interval" of +/- 50%. [What that means is that, with the surveyed population in this survey, if the recorded result was 50%, then the actual result could be someplace between a low of 0.00% and a high of 100%.

PS - If you take a look at the actual survey questions asked, you will also see that they are incredibly sloppily worded and use terms that are so subjective that it is impossible to tell if one person giving an answer is actually responding to the same OBJECTIVE question that another person who gives the same answer is.
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You can thank the schools for that. The present America as a plunderer of indigenous peoples, and if America didn't exist the continent is presumed to still be the way it was. Hardly. We would have been a group of European colonies and sub countries of France, England, Spain, and Russia, and the chances are we would not be sitting here at a keyboard. If you lived in California you'd be pushing a plow behind a Spanish horse.

It's time to have a look at what and how teachers are teaching their destructive agenda and fix it. Pretty soon they will be chanting the virtues of being more like China.

 

[Moderate Right]

From FOX News

Nearly Half of Young Americans Believe US Is Racist and Not 'Greatest' Country, Survey Finds
​

An alarming new online survey found that national pride is falling among the next generation.

The survey, conducted by polling firm YouGov, reveals that many members of the younger generation (under 38 -- Generation Z and millennials) do not identify with patriotism or American exceptionalism.

The Foundation for Liberty and American Greatness, which sponsored the survey, highlighted some key findings, including that 46 percent of respondents do not agree that America is the greatest country in the world, half believe the country is sexist (50 percent) and racist (49 percent), and 47 percent say America's future should be driven by socialism over capitalism.

Other findings include:

COMMENT:-

Just two minor points before everyone flies into a flap over the results:

1. "On-line polls" are notoriously inaccurate because they have a marked tendency to use a "self-selected population"; and
2. the number of people that it requires to obtain statistically reliable results (+/- 3.5%) 95% of the time if the "population" is around 13,500,000 is around 400. The population of 14 to 17 year olds in the US is around 13,500,000. The number of responses for that demographic in this survey was 100. Using only a sample size of 100 produces a "confidence interval" of +/- 50%. [What that means is that, with the surveyed population in this survey, if the recorded result was 50%, then the actual result could be someplace between a low of 0.00% and a high of 100%.

PS - If you take a look at the actual survey questions asked, you will also see that they are incredibly sloppily worded and use terms that are so subjective that it is impossible to tell if one person giving an answer is actually responding to the same OBJECTIVE question that another person who gives the same answer is.
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Well, we know for sure that the 65,000,000 people who voted for Hillary are liberal politically correct idiots. Fact is, everyone is racist to one degree or another, including all of those very same idiots who call others racists. Some of the most racist people I have ever known are black.

 

[SLC]

I’m not surprised by what young people think today most get their “news” from social media. And media like Facebook a Twitter have been proven to lean left. And teachers today are products of our liberal leaning colleges. The liberals took control of most Colleges several years back and kids are endoctrinated with a liberal philosophy.

 

[trixare4kids]

Well, we know for sure that the 65,000,000 people who voted for Hillary are liberal politically correct idiots. Fact is, everyone is racist to one degree or another, including all of those very same idiots who call others racists. Some of the most racist people I have ever known are black.

Pretty telling that this generation of young adults would see the U.S. flag as a sign of intolerance and hatred. I'm betting this might be different if a leftist were their president.
Liberal academia...Racism and hate are the most overused words used today. Code for I don't like your opinion.

Snowflakes.

 

[DaveFagan]

There is shame in every country that has done great things. To my knowledge there is no country that has only engaged morally and humanely throughout it's history while accomplishing anything close to what the US has. The US has saved the world IMO. Not many countries can make that claim. Despite our flaws America is a country to be proud of.

However America today is an embarrassment. America is the sum of it's people and the American people are a disgrace.

Correction: American leadership is a disgrace!
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[queenmandy85]

There is no question that the US is a great country. The Marshall Plan was the most magnanomous and insiteful foreign policy in history. As for being the most free, well, that is not exactly true. You are among the most free but Norway, Canada, New Zealand for example, are just as free. American exceptionalism is based on hyperbolic propoganda. If the rebels had lost the revolutionary war, you would have been just like Canada.

 

[Kreton]

Correction: American leadership is a disgrace!
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So are the people. Look at how the general public is acting. Americans have lost their minds.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

This is de jure versus de facto.

De jure = In law.
De facto = In practice.

It's like dismissing the reality behind the Civil Rights Marches because the Declaration and the Constitution said all is well. One of the reasons the U.S. "goes as far" is that it is trying to overcome the base instincts of racism, bigotry, and sexism that deep-rooted religion and centuries of institutional slavery created.

So of us think of the glass as half full, you others see it as completely empty.

Cheer up, bro.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

There is no question that the US is a great country. The Marshall Plan was the most magnanomous and insiteful foreign policy in history. As for being the most free, well, that is not exactly true. You are among the most free but Norway, Canada, New Zealand for example, are just as free. American exceptionalism is based on hyperbolic propoganda. If the rebels had lost the revolutionary war, you would have been just like Canada.

I agree with much of what you said... at the beginning.

As to American exceptionalism, America is exceptional. Organizing disparate peoples under a government in itself is exceptional, ask the cavemen and women, ask wandering peoples, ask the strong individual Indian tribes that fought with and were finally defeated by a unified state.

The nation organized as the United States is more exceptional that all the other exceptionals.

You see, our founders and framers were not beaten by the Crown, did not remain as subjects as did Canadians... not that y'all didnt turn out fine, but we are different and by far and way more exceptional up to this juncture in the planet's history.

 

[queenmandy85]

I agree with much of what you said... at the beginning.

As to American exceptionalism, America is exceptional. Organizing disparate peoples under a government in itself is exceptional, ask the cavemen and women, ask wandering peoples, ask the strong individual Indian tribes that fought with and were finally defeated by a unified state.

The nation organized as the United States is more exceptional that all the other exceptionals.

You see, our founders and framers were not beaten by the Crown, did not remain as subjects as did Canadians... not that y'all didnt turn out fine, but we are different and by far and way more exceptional up to this juncture in the planet's history.

Canada is made up of disparate peoples. The French and the English came together to form a country. We never had an issue with the Crown. We were never "beaten" by the Crown.
In my previous post, I neglected to point out that we don't own any moral high ground. Our history with residential schools is a shameful part of our history. Also, in 1939 our government turned away a shipload of Jewish refugees fleeing Germany. They were sent back to perish in the death camps.
So, I guess the US and Canada are exceptionals among many exceptional nations.

 

[Sampson Simpson]

There is shame in every country that has done great things. To my knowledge there is no country that has only engaged morally and humanely throughout it's history while accomplishing anything close to what the US has. The US has saved the world IMO. Not many countries can make that claim. Despite our flaws America is a country to be proud of.

However America today is an embarrassment. America is the sum of it's people and the American people are a disgrace.

WWII was a long long time ago. I would say back then, damn right we were the good guys. Since then, all we do is invade foreign countries and kill people for profit, with some noble military excursion mixed in. We are now at the ultimate low of having an Idiocracy president

 

[Sampson Simpson]

You can thank the schools for that. The present America as a plunderer of indigenous peoples, and if America didn't exist the continent is presumed to still be the way it was. Hardly. We would have been a group of European colonies and sub countries of France, England, Spain, and Russia, and the chances are we would not be sitting here at a keyboard. If you lived in California you'd be pushing a plow behind a Spanish horse.

It's time to have a look at what and how teachers are teaching their destructive agenda and fix it. Pretty soon they will be chanting the virtues of being more like China.

What are you even talking about? nobody teaches that? Why make stuff up to try and make an argument attacking teachers?

 

[Sampson Simpson]

There is no question that the US is a great country. The Marshall Plan was the most magnanomous and insiteful foreign policy in history. As for being the most free, well, that is not exactly true. You are among the most free but Norway, Canada, New Zealand for example, are just as free. American exceptionalism is based on hyperbolic propoganda. If the rebels had lost the revolutionary war, you would have been just like Canada.

We lead the industrialized world in rate of imprisonment, so definitely not free. And if you are a minority, its even worse. And the worse thing is, people are OK with it. Politicians actually get elected selling them on being tough on crime, which often means just throwing poor, often time minority people in prison while rich people can rape and kill and get away with it because they have money

Basically, this country is about one thing and one thing only, let the rich suck as much money out of us all while politicians do their bidding and sell a line of BS to a bunch of ignorant people who basically cheer on getting raped by and having their country destroyed by greedy billionaires

The concept of America is great, that is true, and I'm glad I grew up here. But to be honest, I'd probably be more happy in Canada or Europe because this country is overrun by ignorant, brainwashed, hateful idiots

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Even taking into account your accurate summation of online polls, the results actually don't surprise me and I wouldn't doubt the accuracy all that much. I actually wouldn't be surprised if a more accurate type of polling would find much higher numbers.

You might be correct, but I'm not about to do anything based on a poll that (essentially) says "Someplace between 0% and 100% of the population studied think that ...".

Quite frankly I'd be overjoyed if people were to pay me good money for conducting research that had such accuracy of conclusion.

 

[vanceen]

You might be correct, but I'm not about to do anything based on a poll that (essentially) says "Someplace between 0% and 100% of the population studied think that ...".

Quite frankly I'd be overjoyed if people were to pay me good money for conducting research that had such accuracy of conclusion.

You have made some legitimate criticisms of the methodology of the survey.

But I'm curious. Why did you start a thread about it?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

If those poll results are accurate, then people under 38 years of age are, well, "misinformed."

In fact, the United States of America in 2018 is the probably the least "racist" and least "sexist" nation in this world.


No nation in the world goes as far as the United States of America in according rights (and some privileges) to ALL ethnicities and women.

When you get into the top 4% it's really difficult to separate the contenders, and the US does appear to be in the top 4%.

However, you might want to take a look at "The 25 most tolerant, progressive, and environmentally friendly countries in the world" which ranks the US lower than 20 other countries.

Yes, I know that they tossed "progressive" and "environmentally friendly" into the mix, but, tell me (truthfully) would you REALLY like to live in a "reactionary" and "environmentally unfriendly" country that has ZERO racial intolerance in preference to one that has a little bit of racial intolerance but which was "progressive" (and I use that term in its ACTUAL meaning and not as a dog whistle for "Communist") and "environmentally friendly"?

PS - You might want to take a look at what the other countries of the world do as far as according rights (and some privileges) to ALL ethnicities and genders. You might be surprised (painfully surprised, but surprised none the less).