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NBC: The conspiracy theorists were right."Biden officials knew of deadly COVID vax health risks, did not warn public" What's next? 9/11?

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This is why the media shouldn't censor opposing points of view. Because they might be right. Too late for everyone with the shot inside them.


Biden officials knew of deadly COVID vax health risks, did not warn public: report




"(TNND) — A new report from the Senate Homeland Security Committee accuses federal health agencies of failing to adequately warn the public about potential side effects of the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, particularly the risk of myocarditis in young men. The report suggests that the Biden administration downplayed these risks to avoid increasing vaccine hesitancy."









RELATED: 600 Million mRNA COVID Shots Later, New NIH Director Says Entire mRNA Platform Has Unpredictable Safety, Never “Ready for Prime Time”
 
All vaccines have risks associated to them. It's pretty darn obvious that the risks were downplayed to encourage better vaccination rates. The last covid booster has a pretty poor participation rate and the goverment has pretty much given up on their false narrative that every one needs one. The only people butt-hurt is those who cling to a political ideology that the goverment needs to control people so they can feel safe and more importantly they can feel vindicated as if people cared about it anymore.
 
Nonsense, There have been hardly any vaccine-related deaths worldwide. Thiis also remains a uniquely American Conspiracy Theory - almost no other country talks about this with so much fervor.

But then that's no surprise - the rest of the world isn't full of dumb MAGAs
 

If you click the actual report link in the 10WJAR article, all they ever refer to are VAERS reports. Which are not verified. The committee made them known to the CDC (which of course is aware of VAERS as well). Can anyone find that those VAERS reports were verified?
 
Let's see some proof. More vaccine bullshit. What is the purpose of this thread to try to discourage folks from being vaccinated?
 
The only REAl question is what CIA agebt Robert de Niro's role in this is, and whether he is disguised as an Uzbek homeopath.
 

Why did Trump fast track and take credit for such a dangerous vaccine?
 
Perusing the scientific literature around the side effects of the vaccines is an exercise in horror. Myocarditis, necrosis, anaphylaxis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, thrombosis, capillary leak syndrome, etc. The worst part isn’t that this information was suppressed - it’s that there’s nothing you could have done with it. We didn’t get to choose our vaccine. You got what the site had when your State-appointed time came or you got nothin at all. And you risked unemployment if you chose the later.

All of this because of unscientific hype that everyone needed to be vaccinated.
 

COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines​

The overall risk of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – is substantially higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than it is in the weeks following vaccination for the coronavirus, a large new study in England shows.

The detailed analysis of nearly 43 million people was published Monday in the American Heart Association journal Circulation.

"We found that across this large dataset, the entire COVID-19-vaccinated population of England during an important 12-month period of the pandemic when the COVID-19 vaccines first became available, the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was quite small compared to the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection," the study's lead author, Martina Patone, said in a news release. She is a statistician at the University of Oxford Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences in England.

"This analysis provides important information that may help guide public health vaccine campaigns, particularly since COVID-19 vaccination has expanded in many parts of the world to include children as young as 6 months old," Patone said.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/...ses-higher-risk-for-myocarditis-than-vaccines
 
Yes I think the anti-science crusade is really just a part of the anti-truth MAGA agenda. It is really all about denigrating experts in every field because the truth is at odds with the dear leader. There are many that still believe that other countries pay Trump's tariffs.
 
You included the following in your OP

The CDC just killed another right-wing Covid vaccine conspiracy theory

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a new study showing no link between Covid-19 mRNA vaccines and cardiac arrest in young people.
www.msnbc.com

To add, it points out Fox News hosts
 
Tell me you're kidding. How many drug commercials are there in the course of twenty four hours on tv? Ever listen to them listing the possible side effects. They might as well be saying if this drug doesn't kill you, it must be good for you.
 

Well, the consequences speak for themselves. It seems their risk-to-benefit calculations may have been just a wee bit more correct than those of the MAGAsphere.

Trump-voting counties died at 3 times the rate of everyone else during COVID. In fact, the more they voted for Trump, the more they died. Such sophisticated, smart folks! No getting any bull$hit past them! No sirreebob!

Trump voting areas died at 3 times the rate of everyone else:

People in counties that voted Trump more likely to die from Covid – study

Areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rate than counties that voted heavily for Biden
www.theguardian.com



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In fact, they even looked into WHY Trump voters died so much during Covid. Was it because they were older and so more prone to dying? No. It's because they are so sophisticated!

"We discuss several mechanisms explaining why, to some extent universally, conservatives (the right-wing oriented public) were less likely to follow public health recommendations, were more COVID-19 vaccine-hesitant, and had increased infection rates, poorer health outcomes, and increased mortality compared to left-wing oriented public. The mechanisms explaining the links include the media, trust, cognitions, and values. We conclude the chapter with lessons learned during the COVID-19 pandemic and future research directions on the pandemics' politicization."

Politicization of COVID-19 health-protective behaviors in the United States: Longitudinal and cross-national evidence - PMC

During the initial phase of the COVID-19 pandemic, U.S. conservative politicians and the media downplayed the risk of both contracting COVID-19 and the effectiveness of recommended health behaviors. Health behavior theories suggest perceived ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9115435/
 
And the cult members must constantly reaffirm their faith by repeating the party line, to the point of bringing up these CTs the same way an evangelical might with their "testimony"
 
Mycroft said:
I don't have a problem with Real ID. But I have a problem with this...

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It's more likely this would be pushed by liberal administrations than by Trump.
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What this deceptive argument fails to point out is that mortality has been higher in Red counties for decades..Poorer health service, hospitals a dn ERsfar away, more smoking. True to liberals all you guys know how to do is lie.

Red counties have higher mortality rates than blue counties — and the gap is growing

The "mortality gap" between red and blue counties was growing long before the pandemic began. Experts have a few theories as to why
www.salon.com

Red counties have higher mortality rates than blue counties — and the gap is growing
Curiously, the "mortality gap" between red and blue counties was evident long before the pandemic began
By ERIC SCHANK
PUBLISHED JUNE 10, 2022 6:00AM (EDT)

The red-blue divide in American politics extends beyond culture and mask-wearing habits, but also to health. Indeed, residents of Democrat-leaning counties are seeing fewer premature deaths than in counties that vote consistently for Republicans.

That's according to new research from Brigham and Women's Hospital, which found specifically that, over the last two decades, a widening gap in mortality rates has been observed between red and blue American counties. While medical experts emphasize that across the board, mortality rates have continued to improve (despite a slight drop in life expectancy that began around 2014 and fell even further during the pandemic) counties that voted for Democrats in presidential elections from 2000 to 2016 saw a faster decline in premature deaths than their Republican-leaning counterparts.
 
Nope. They looked into the reasons why Trump voters died so much more during Covid. Their increased mortality rate during the pandemic was not because of that. It was because they are such sophisticated skeptics: they were too busy chasing secret Kenyan birth certificates, stolen presidential elections, and avoiding cancer causing wind turbines to get a vaccine, mask, and distance, as their doctors were telling them to do.

"We discuss several mechanisms explaining why, to some extent universally, conservatives (the right-wing oriented public) were less likely to follow public health recommendations, were more COVID-19 vaccine-hesitant, and had increased infection rates, poorer health outcomes, and increased mortality compared to left-wing oriented public. The mechanisms explaining the links include the media, trust, cognitions, and values. We conclude the chapter with lessons learned during the COVID-19 pandemic and future research directions on the pandemics' politicization."

Politicization of COVID-19 health-protective behaviors in the United States: Longitudinal and cross-national evidence - PMC

During the initial phase of the COVID-19 pandemic, U.S. conservative politicians and the media downplayed the risk of both contracting COVID-19 and the effectiveness of recommended health behaviors. Health behavior theories suggest perceived ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doctors and nurses working in such counties were getting extremely frustrated and burned out dealing with THAT level of sophisticated skepticism (or stupidity, I guess, depending on your perspective). These folks seem to be too smart for their own good, it seems.

To combat vaccine distrust in rural areas, doctors are lining up to get it first

Doctors in rural areas say being the first to get vaccine shots will not only keep their patients safe, but it will also help combat distrust in their communities.
www.nbcnews.com
 
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