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NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll show Trump and Clinton in dead heat

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Polls show Trump and Clinton in dead heat

A NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll Sunday showed Clinton's former double digit lead over Trump had narrowed to just three points, 46 percent to 43 percent, a margin that is within the poll's margin of error.

A month ago, Clinton led Trump by 11 points, 50 percent to 39 percent.

The numbers echoed similar findings Saturday in a ABC-Washington Post poll, which showed Trump leading Clinton 46 percent to 44 percent in a general election

Still way to early to take much stock in these polls. but it does make one thing clear: the liberal dream of a dominating Hillary win over Trump in November is evaporating fast. it also show Trump has the mojo and more motivated voters. He may still lose(it might even be probable), but it's going to be close. no doubt about that now.
 

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Polls show Trump and Clinton in dead heat



Still way to early to take much stock in these polls. but it does make one thing clear: the liberal dream of a dominating Hillary win over Trump in November is evaporating fast. it also show Trump has the mojo and more motivated voters. He may still lose(it might even be probable), but it's going to be close. no doubt about that now.

Trump not having a decent lead should be troubling for his fans, as he has clinched his nomination, while the democratic contest is still ongoing.
 

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Polls show Trump and Clinton in dead heat



Still way to early to take much stock in these polls. but it does make one thing clear: the liberal dream of a dominating Hillary win over Trump in November is evaporating fast. it also show Trump has the mojo and more motivated voters. He may still lose(it might even be probable), but it's going to be close. no doubt about that now.

Not the only one.
ABC/Washington Post Poll shows the following amongst registered voters.

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Greater voter registration among Republicans is one factor: Clinton’s 6-point lead among all adults, 48-42 percent in a general election matchup, switches to essentially a dead heat among registered voters, 46 percent for Trump, 44 percent for Clinton.

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A Post-Primary Rally Boosts Trump, Albeit With Challenges Aplenty (POLL)


As stated at The Conservative Treehouse.
 
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Trump not having a decent lead should be troubling for his fans, as he has clinched his nomination, while the democratic contest is still ongoing.
How do you figure?
Why would Trump have a "decent" lead at this time in the National polls? Especially when Hillary doesn't have a decent lead either.
 

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Trump not having a decent lead should be troubling for his fans, as he has clinched his nomination, while the democratic contest is still ongoing.
'Clinched' yes, but not fully unified as of yet. There's still room for him to grow within and outside the Party. While he's still tacking Right to unify, he hasn't had a chance to moderate towards the middle for the general.
 

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Polls show Trump and Clinton in dead heat



Still way to early to take much stock in these polls. but it does make one thing clear: the liberal dream of a dominating Hillary win over Trump in November is evaporating fast. it also show Trump has the mojo and more motivated voters. He may still lose(it might even be probable), but it's going to be close. no doubt about that now.

She is a poor candidate and he is unpredictable. A vote for her would be disreputable while a vote for him would be dishonorable. Still, it is likely to be close.
 

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'Clinched' yes, but not fully unified as of yet. There's still room for him to grow within and outside the Party. While he's still tacking Right to unify, he hasn't had a chance to moderate towards the middle for the general.

He's already there.
 

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How do you figure?
Why would Trump have a "decent" lead at this time in the National polls? Especially when Hillary doesn't have a decent lead either.

Once a party candidate is chosen, the party starts to come together and the national polls shoot up. Trump is the chosen republican candidate, while democrats have not fully chosen theirs yet.
 

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Once a party candidate is chosen, the party starts to come together and the national polls shoot up. Trump is the chosen republican candidate, while democrats have not fully chosen theirs yet.
And that is where you are incorrect.
Neither party is unified at this point in time.
Once that happens, after the primaries are actually over, there will be more accurate national polling.
 

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And that is where you are incorrect.
Neither party is unified at this point in time.
Once that happens, after the primaries are actually over, there will be more accurate national polling.

I did not say the party was unified. Read my post again, slowly and for comprehension.
 

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He's already in the middle (and on the left and right).

Donald, Hillary and the Bernie factor


We are unlikely to go the next six months without a significant crisis. How will the candidates react?

". . . Hillary Clinton cannot put away a heretofore marginal, self-declared socialist. He has forced her into leftward genuflections on everything from trade to national health care. At the same time, Bernie Sanders has created a remarkably resilient insurgency calling for — after Obama, mind you — a political revolution of the left.

The Republicans’ ideological about-face is even more pronounced. They’ve chosen as their leader a nationalist populist who hardly bothers to pretend any allegiance to conservatism. Indeed, Donald Trump is, like Sanders, running to the left of Clinton on a host of major issues including trade, Wall Street, NATO and interventionism. . . . "
 

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These presidential polls or popularity readings mean nothing............Media hype.........

If you want to know who is on top.......

Check out the polls in the swing states

That is the only way I know of assess who has the lead so to speak........
 

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I did not say the party was unified. Read my post again, slowly and for comprehension.
Stop.
I said "unified" and you said "chosen".
No one would think that we are speaking of two different things.

Unification happens at selection regardless if some in the party do not support him. That selection happens at the Convention.

Even if you think we are speaking of different things my point still stands.

Again.
Once that happens, after the primaries are actually over, there will be more accurate national polling.
 
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Stop.
I said "unified" and you said "chosen".
No one would think that we are speaking of two different things.

Unification happens at selection regardless if some in the party do not support him. That selection happens at the Convention.

Even if you think we are speaking of different things my point still stands.

Again.
Once that happens, after the primaries are actually over, there will be more accurate national polling.

SO basically, you responded to something I did not say, and think you made a point about something other than your lack of reading ability.
 

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Trump not having a decent lead should be troubling for his fans, as he has clinched his nomination, while the democratic contest is still ongoing.

The reality is that these are two flawed candidates. Also many of the Sanders supporters are independents. So the issue will less about "unifying" around Clinton and more if she can get many of them to vote in November. Trump will have the opposite problem as he needs hard core conservatives to vote.

Turnout in just a few states and a few counties in those states usually decides the winner in recent presidential elections.
 

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The reality is that these are two flawed candidates. Also many of the Sanders supporters are independents. So the issue will less about "unifying" around Clinton and more if she can get many of them to vote in November. Trump will have the opposite problem as he needs hard core conservatives to vote.

Turnout in just a few states and a few counties in those states usually decides the winner in recent presidential elections.

If you look at some of my posts on the topic, you will see that I have been quite clear that turnout and get out the vote activities will probably decide the election to my mind. The reason being that Clinton and Trump both are not terribly well liked by people in general. I do suspect that most likely Clinton will start with something of an advantage, that is, she won't have to get out quite as many to win.
 

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If you look at some of my posts on the topic, you will see that I have been quite clear that turnout and get out the vote activities will probably decide the election to my mind. The reason being that Clinton and Trump both are not terribly well liked by people in general. I do suspect that most likely Clinton will start with something of an advantage, that is, she won't have to get out quite as many to win.

True. The electoral map starts out with a natural lead for any democrat. What we have seen in the primaries is this looks like an "outsider" year. Not good for Clinton. If Trump can somehow some coherent in the debates and throttles back some of the crazy stuff he has said, he probably has a better shot than many want to believe.
 

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True. The electoral map starts out with a natural lead for any democrat. What we have seen in the primaries is this looks like an "outsider" year. Not good for Clinton. If Trump can somehow some coherent in the debates and throttles back some of the crazy stuff he has said, he probably has a better shot than many want to believe.

I would seriously throw out the historical electoral map, re-examine that after the conventions. Historical precedent is not something I trust this year.
 

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He's already in the middle (and on the left and right).

Donald, Hillary and the Bernie factor


We are unlikely to go the next six months without a significant crisis. How will the candidates react?

". . . Hillary Clinton cannot put away a heretofore marginal, self-declared socialist. He has forced her into leftward genuflections on everything from trade to national health care. At the same time, Bernie Sanders has created a remarkably resilient insurgency calling for — after Obama, mind you — a political revolution of the left.

The Republicans’ ideological about-face is even more pronounced. They’ve chosen as their leader a nationalist populist who hardly bothers to pretend any allegiance to conservatism. Indeed, Donald Trump is, like Sanders, running to the left of Clinton on a host of major issues including trade, Wall Street, NATO and interventionism. . . . "
Ah, thanks for the clarification - I wasn't sure what you were referring to.

Yeah, Trump's in the middle compared to much of the GOP, but I think he's got to go a bit further to get some of the pick-off Dems and Bernie Babies. I think he's currently still tacking a bit Right to unify the party (ex: Heritage SCOTUS picks), and will tack further Left on select issues during the general. He really doesn't care about party or party values, that I can see. He just wants the White House, and the GOP is the (perhaps temporary) vehicle to get him there!

BTW, that was a very good article. I'm of similar opinion, but it was good to see it in print. Bernie has really ham-tied the Madame Secy!
 

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I would seriously throw out the historical electoral map, re-examine that after the conventions. Historical precedent is not something I trust this year.

You could be right,time will tell. Would be very surprised if a republican can win anything in the NE or Calif. same with a democrat in the deep south and many western states. You could be correct, but I am guessing the election will depend on the usual purple states.
 

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If trump selects a solid top republican pick the Gov from OK or some other solid pick you
will see his numbers shoot up. the quicker that he can get a solid VP pick in
the better off he will be. He does need to pick someone with some name recognition though.
 

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318m people in America and these are the two people you pick for the election???
 
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