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Nationalism started WWI...and WWII

Without nationalism societies and countries would not exist. We all would still be hunter-gathers living in skin tents and caves hunting with rock tipped spears.

Nationalism is just code for White Supremacist rule....Believe it
 
WW1 was started by GLOBALISTS who declared countries not involved at all must involve for global - not national - interests. Nearly all wars have been due to globalism, not nationalism and in the USA by Democratic Presidents.

Yeah Hitler and Mussolini were "Globalists"...................BULL****
 
in the late 1930's America was isolated, implementing protectionism, cut off.....Demagogues roamed the Country under the banner of "America First"...Preaching "Nationalism" The rest is history....

You mean Democrats roamed the country. Conservatives and Republicans at that time were isolationists. Your statement is false. The USA got into WW1 due to liberal Democrats advocacy of globalism. After both world wars, Republicans held hearings accusing the Democratic President of manipulating Americans into supporting the war by deliberately getting Americans killed.

One of the latest tactics of the Democratic Party is also lying about history, telling a 100% diametrically opposite for the truth history - and then ranting about the lies they created, knowing most people are so uneducated on history (by removing it from school testing and therefore teaching it) that all they have to do is tell the lie a million times and people accept the lie as true. Nearly every foreign war the USA has been in has been for global interests, NOT national self defense, including global money interests.
 
in the late 1930's America was isolated, implementing protectionism, cut off.....Demagogues roamed the Country under the banner of "America First"...Preaching "Nationalism" The rest is history....

It was that same movement which prevented the USA from joining the League of Nations, virtually nuetering the organization.
 
Yeah Hitler and Mussolini were "Globalists"...................BULL****

Our getting into the war was. In fact, Hitler and Mussolini were globalists, declaring all the world should operate under their system.
 
You mean Democrats roamed the country. Conservatives and Republicans at that time were isolationists. Your statement is false. The USA got into WW1 due to liberal Democrats advocacy of globalism. After both world wars, Republicans held hearings accusing the Democratic President of manipulating Americans into supporting the war by deliberately getting Americans killed.

One of the latest tactics of the Democratic Party is also lying about history, telling a 100% diametrically opposite for the truth history - and then ranting about the lies they created, knowing most people are so uneducated on history (by removing it from school testing and therefore teaching it) that all they have to do is tell the lie a million times and people accept the lie as true. Nearly every foreign war the USA has been in has been for global interests, NOT national self defense, including global money interests.

Your hero Lindbergh roamed around preaching Nationalism and isolation (under the banner of America First)and received awards from Hitler himself....America stood by on it's ass while Germany ravaged Europe and Great Britain...Shameful really
 
These groups hoped to drive Austria-Hungary from the Balkans and establish a 'Greater Serbia', a unified state for all Slavic people. It was this pan-Slavic nationalism that inspired the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo in June 1914, an event that led directly to the outbreak of World War I. (internet)
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https://alphahistory.com/worldwar1/nationalism/

Nationalism is an intense form of patriotism or loyalty to one’s country. Nationalists exaggerate the value or importance of their country, placing its interests over those of other countries. Nationalism was a prominent force in early 20th century Europe and became a significant cause of World War I. Many Europeans – particularly citizens of the so-called Great Powers – were convinced of the cultural, economic and military supremacy of their nation. This over-confidence was fuelled by popular culture and the press. The pages of many newspapers were filled with nationalist rhetoric and inflammatory stories, such as rumours about rival nations and their evil intentions. Nationalism could be found in literature, music, theatre and art. Royals, politicians and diplomats did little to deflate nationalism and some actively contributed to it with provocative remarks and rhetoric.
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A lot of books have been written about nationalism as the cause of the 2 World Wars. I suggest you stop by your library.

Trump supporters can't enter libraries without bursting into flames, much like vampires and churches.
 
It was that same movement which prevented the USA from joining the League of Nations, virtually nuetering the organization.

You mean the notion that the powers of the world should act together to police the entire world as a global effort, right?
 
You mean the notion that the powers of the world should act together to police the entire world as a global effort, right?

No I think he means that nationalism prevented us from joining an organization that very well could have prevented WWII. Nationalism is a cancer that destroys democracy and creates wars. Nationalists cannot abide dissent because it is seen as weakness. Patriots know that dissent is what makes us strong.
 
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Nationalism is so reminiscent of Nazi Germany. It's a "we're better than you attitude". George W. Bush hated the United Nations. Trump is showing much of the same. Problems of this world are just that - worldly problems. Nationalism does nothing to help solve these problems.

Nationalism is also reminiscent of Imperial Japan in the 1930s-early 1940s. And look where they wound up: Free urban renewal courtesy of Gen. Curtis Lemay & the U.S. Army Air Corps.
 
You mean the notion that the powers of the world should act together to police the entire world as a global effort, right?

The World is more connected than ever....and Not going back...It is 2018 not 1918 despite what you Nationalist types think or believe
 
Your hero Lindbergh roamed around preaching Nationalism and isolation (under the banner of America First)and received awards from Hitler himself....America stood by on it's ass while Germany ravaged Europe and Great Britain...Shameful really

Spoken like a true globalist but also someone who does not understand WW2 and our role at all. It was solely about money and power for the USA. We provided enough weapons, resources and supplies, and weapons of war to assure Germany and Japan neither won nor lost - allowing every major industrial power and economic competitor to obliterate each other. Then we came in to claim the victory.

It is tragic how almost no American knows or understand USA history. The USA was never a "nice" country. The USA was a kick-ass country, which made the USA both rich and powerful. With cry-baby "America LAST" liberals and progressives getting their way, the USA is going into the toilet economically and socially at an ever faster pace.

The relative economic wealth of the USA has declined from 40% of the world's wealth at the end of WW2 to 15% - and that is not counting the massive debt and balance of trades debts. Even now they rage against have equal tariffs, inequality created to allow countries to rebuild after WW2 - a REALLY stupid thing to do.

Maybe when the USA is down to the standards of Mexico the leftwing will stop trying to destroy the USA, but I doubt it.
 
Your hero Lindbergh roamed around preaching Nationalism and isolation (under the banner of America First)and received awards from Hitler himself....America stood by on it's ass while Germany ravaged Europe and Great Britain...Shameful really

Nationalism is exguarated patriotism, often fanatical in its devotion. Many folks interchange the two terms in error.

Mr Trump had an oppurtunity to serve his country when his nation called him to Vietnam, so I have doubts about his found sense of Nationalism. Its a word used as a dog whistle to those who feel left out, cheated, or on the lower end of the economic ladder. This is often combined with a lower level of education.
 
Spoken like a true globalist but also someone who does not understand WW2 and our role at all. It was solely about money and power for the USA. We provided enough weapons, resources and supplies, and weapons of war to assure Germany and Japan neither won nor lost - allowing every major industrial power and economic competitor to obliterate each other. Then we came in to claim the victory.

It is tragic how almost no American knows or understand USA history. The USA was never a "nice" country. The USA was a kick-ass country, which made the USA both rich and powerful. With cry-baby "America LAST" liberals and progressives getting their way, the USA is going into the toilet economically and socially at an ever faster pace.

The relative economic wealth of the USA has declined from 40% of the world's wealth at the end of WW2 to 15% - and that is not counting the massive debt and balance of trades debts. Even now they rage against have equal tariffs, inequality created to allow countries to rebuild after WW2 - a REALLY stupid thing to do.

Maybe when the USA is down to the standards of Mexico the leftwing will stop trying to destroy the USA, but I doubt it.

Spoken like a true White Nationalist...The Furor would have been proud...Maybe giving you an "Oak Leaf Cluster" for your loyalty to the master race
 
All the huge USA social programs were created with the USA was filthy rich after WW2. Liberalism and globalists undertook a constant path to destroy that wealth, while at the same time trying to make everyone dependent on the government - allowing the super rich (liberals) to suck every dollar out of the USA while using debt financing for social programs to prevent a revolution.

In my opinion, the USA is now in an irreversible downward economic and social spiral that can not be stopped, only possibly managed to avoid sudden full economic collapse. If the world ever decides that the US dollar is no longer the world currency, we will become as Mexico very quickly both economically and in government.
 
Your hero Lindbergh roamed around preaching Nationalism and isolation (under the banner of America First)and received awards from Hitler himself....America stood by on it's ass while Germany ravaged Europe and Great Britain...Shameful really

Yes, and Lindbergs reputation and national standing never recovered. He did try to make amends with his war work, but the damage was done.
 
Oh, so just to be clear; you are also whining about the US fighting Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and later North Korea and China.

just because the president in charge at one point or another were Democrats.

Wow.

The topic is nationalism.

The history leading to the wars is another matter. Our double crossing our Chinese allies on behalf of Japan - while disarming Japan - assured the Korean and Vietnam war. Our supporting the Allies in WW1 assured the rise of the USSR and the rise of Nazi Germany. Our siding with Germany against the USSR after WW2 assured the Cold War and all the wars and expenses of it. That is what globalism brings.

Globalists realized just how profitable war is economically and in terms of power.
 
Trump supporters can't enter libraries without bursting into flames, much like vampires and churches.

I would not go that far in my assesment. They do need to stop getting all their history from the History Channel. I can recommend PBS and BBC, some thought provoking programming. Or do what I did, major in Modern European History.
 
The topic is nationalism.

The history leading to the wars is another matter. Our double crossing our Chinese allies on behalf of Japan - while disarming Japan - assured the Korean and Vietnam war. Our supporting the Allies in WW1 assured the rise of the USSR and the rise of Nazi Germany. Our siding with Germany against the USSR after WW2 assured the Cold War and all the wars and expenses of it. That is what globalism brings.

Globalists realized just how profitable war is economically and in terms of power.

Uh.....no, we did not “double cross the Chinese”; without US aid they never could have stood against the Japanese for as long as they did. After the war isolationist conservatives railed against being involved in another nation’s resumed civil war, with the result being the rise of the PRC.

Again, how exactly would American non-involvement prevented a revolution which was already gathered steam long before the US even entered the war? Be very specific.

Yes, had Germany won the war there would be no Nazis.....”just” a new imperial German hegemon with a history of aggression and hostility towards the US.

Lol so now you are whining about the US creating a democracy in West Germany and opposing the totalitarian USSR?

Your arguments are both laughable and incredibly historically ignorant.

Nationalism has been the root cause of dozens of wars, by the way.
 
Uh.....no, we did not “double cross the Chinese”; without US aid they never could have stood against the Japanese for as long as they did. After the war isolationist conservatives railed against being involved in another nation’s resumed civil war, with the result being the rise of the PRC.

Again, how exactly would American non-involvement prevented a revolution which was already gathered steam long before the US even entered the war? Be very specific.

Yes, had Germany won the war there would be no Nazis.....”just” a new imperial German hegemon with a history of aggression and hostility towards the US.

Lol so now you are whining about the US creating a democracy in West Germany and opposing the totalitarian USSR?

Your arguments are both laughable and incredibly historically ignorant.

Nationalism has been the root cause of dozens of wars, by the way.

What is incredibly ignorant historically is your claims. Without USA involvement, no side would won WW1. Instead, Europe would fought and fought until one side or the other exhausted - and then just redraw boundaries as they had been doing for 1,000 years. Germany would not have won. No one would have won. It would have been a stalemate leaning a bit one way or the other. The Russian revolution would have failed and NAZIism would not have rose.

There was no reason to not stay with China as an ally, ie the victorious PRC, as the clear victor and with over 1 million trooped on the Korean border at the end of their civil war intermixed with WW2. Korea had been called a "dagger pointed at the heart of China" for centuries and the suffering and death, rape, theft and murder by Japanese coming thru Korea had been going on for centuries.
Our making an alliance with Japan, thus still in Korea, assured the Korean war. There was no reason to declare we would not recognize the real China other than the globalist perspective of controlling the entire world.
 
No I think he means that nationalism prevented us from joining an organization that very well could have prevented WWII. Nationalism is a cancer that destroys democracy and creates wars. Nationalists cannot abide dissent because it is seen as weakness. Patriots know that dissent is what makes us strong.

If you have Netflix I can highly recommend a series titled The Long Shadow. Part 3 explains in great detail how nationalism was the root of WW1.
 
Uh.....no, we did not “double cross the Chinese”; without US aid they never could have stood against the Japanese for as long as they did. After the war isolationist conservatives railed against being involved in another nation’s resumed civil war, with the result being the rise of the PRC.

Again, how exactly would American non-involvement prevented a revolution which was already gathered steam long before the US even entered the war? Be very specific.

Yes, had Germany won the war there would be no Nazis.....”just” a new imperial German hegemon with a history of aggression and hostility towards the US.

Lol so now you are whining about the US creating a democracy in West Germany and opposing the totalitarian USSR?

Your arguments are both laughable and incredibly historically ignorant.

Nationalism has been the root cause of dozens of wars, by the way.

So you wanted the USA to go to war against the PRC? Use atom bombs plus a million troops of our own - and many wanted to - but "the conservative isolationists" opposed it?

"Thank you conservative isolationists!" We'd still be fighting in China - meaning also Russia - otherwise unless WW3 had pretty much destroyed everything. At least you admit you love war and want wars everywhere against anyone liberal Democrats declare are "evil," meaning against their economic interests and profits.

Just think of all the TRILLIONS of dollars they could make off war with both Russia and China? With the UK and France plus Japan and Germany disarmed - Do you think we would have won against Russia and China on their own lands? Maybe if we built and dropped enough atom bombs on all their major cities killing half a billion would have done it.
 
WWI started because other countries couldn't stay out of other countries business. The opposite of nationalism.More akin to globalism. WWII started because we screwed Germany with the war debt which ****ed Germany up and allowed Hitler to take over. This lets blame World wars on nationalism is nothing more than a globalist attempt to smear nationalism/patriotism.

Macron is a liar or ignoramus if he thinks nationalism is the opposite of patriotism. They are synonymous terms. Although I am sure the globalist scum will claim otherwise.

Nationalists don't stay out of other countries business. They meddle in other countries, for their own national interests. Some nationalists are even expansionist, and speak of the "greater" nation. That often leads to war and conflict, and nationalist leaders trying to make valid claims of annexation.
 
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