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It would be interesting to see what peoples thoughts were on this group. It is a small debating and action group of about 120 who also produce a small newsletter called Der Eigene which translates into 'The Special.'

Our emphasis is on, of course race and take the Darwinian theory of 'survival of the fittest' as fact. We therefore believe, having witnessed history, that empirically the aryan man has created all that we understand to be civilisation. It was the Aryan who founded society and developed it's wonders: Art, medicine, technology, philosophy and science.

The Aryan race is the dominant race on the earth, it is stronger, more intellectual and more motivated and therefore, as Aryans we believe in the creation of a pan-aryan nation covering northern and western Europe.

We believe in the propogation of the aryan race throughout Europe and Russia and accept Hitler's and Rosenburg's theories of Lebensraum. We see the jewish race as an inherently evil and negative race of people who are stronger than the black races and have more intellect. Their desire for world domination is evident throughout the globe.

The jewish leaders come from families of wealth and are able to be educated. Their cunning and desire for power is nurtured unlike the jewish underclasses who's cunning and treachury extends only to their communities. They, as a race, reject the concept of state and nation and have genetic deformaties which makes them weak.

Unlike most modern National Socialist movements we have not revised history and understand the nature and origins of the Nazism. The founders of Nazism were not just Adolf Hitler but Ernst Roehm, Edmund Heines and Rudolf Hess, all homosexuals. The basis of National Socialism derives from the homosexual movement in Germany, specifically from the Community of the Special.

Adolf Brand, Editor of Der Eigene, and founder of the Community of the Special. which was a split from Karl Heinrick Ulrichs gay rights movement which advocated that homosexuals were just women trapped in a mans body influenced the founders of the National Socialist struggle.

Brand rejected this and asserted that "homosexuality was the foundation of all nation-states and that homosexuals represented an elite strate of human society." He believed that homosexuality was a masculine, dominating trait in superior races.

The assertion came from the Greek military societies who conquered and founded modern civilisation. Brand's Community of the Special fashioned itself as a modern incarnation of the warrior cults of ancient Greece. Modeling themselves after the military heroes of Sparta, Thebes and Crete. Brand said in Der Eigene that he wanted men who "thirst for a revival of Greek times and Hellenic standards of beauty after centuries of Christian barbarism."

The development of National Socialism came expressly out of this attitude. The development of male superiority, military discipline and training, the fighting spirit, the idolisation of Aryan beauty.

The National Socialist movement derived from the theories of the Community of the Special and even its hierarchy reflected the pedagogic pederasty of both Greek society and Brand's movement. More specifically the Hitler Youth adopted the pedagogic man/boy relationship that developed into an active, discplined male only fight for supremecy.

The NSL not only advocate homosexuality but believe it to be a pre-requsite for the foundation of a great aryan society. We believe feminity to be a weakness and that the role of women is to defend the home and to procreate.

The NSL is a fascist group and believe in the creation of a strong state, in which lies the tools of order, discpline and greatness. We believe that the NSL alone can be the vanguard to lead the aryan race. We do not accept a second place in the National Socialist Movement and work towards consolidating them into the NSL or destroying them.
 

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I'm interested to know what people think. Especially from the liberals and other National Socialists.
 

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Auftrag said:
I'm interested to know what people think. Especially from the liberals and other National Socialists.
OK...I think your action group of 120 is overpopulated...by about 120...
 

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cnredd said:
OK...I think your action group of 120 is overpopulated...by about 120...
Your killin me ya know that... :rofl

Not to mention you stole my thunder, now i'm left woth no punch line to that joke.:confused:
 

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cnredd said:
OK...I think your action group of 120 is overpopulated...by about 120...
Doesn't this constitute spam?

I mean, if you want to disagree with my politics, do it, but do it in a way that makes some kind of coherent sense.
 

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Auftrag said:
Doesn't this constitute spam?

I mean, if you want to disagree with my politics, do it, but do it in a way that makes some kind of coherent sense.
Your swastika and quote of adolph hitler kind of makes it difficult to actually worry about coherent sense. Obviously coherent sense is not a big priority on your hit list of memorable people. Honestly I wouldn't **** on anyone in this group if they were on fire.

Keep your socialism, I like my capitolism.
 

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Your swastika and quote of adolph hitler kind of makes it difficult to actually worry about coherent sense. Obviously coherent sense is not a big priority on your hit list of memorable people. Honestly I wouldn't **** on anyone in this group if they were on fire.

Keep your socialism, I like my capitolism.
Exactly... He proves "Fruit Loops" ain't just a cereal, and then complains when no one wants to have an intelligent debate on it.
 

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No, its keep your National Socialism, its quite different than socialism.
 

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Your killin me ya know that... :rofl

Not to mention you stole my thunder, now i'm left woth no punch line to that joke.:confused:
I AM having one of my better days....:2wave:
 

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cnredd said:
Exactly... He proves "Fruit Loops" ain't just a cereal, and then complains when no one wants to have an intelligent debate on it.
Yeah. How do you debate with someone who thinks you are "inherently evil"?

We're just lucky that in the US, Christian-right conservatives, left liberals, and everyone in between would do everything in their power to stop these guys from gaining influence.
 

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Yeah. How do you debate with someone who thinks you are "inherently evil"?

We're just lucky that in the US, Christian-right conservatives, left liberals, and everyone in between would do everything in their power to stop these guys from gaining influence.
You know its bad when both Cons & Libs think someone is a doofus...

Now if we can only stop Pauly Shore....
 
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Auftrag said:
I'm interested to know what people think. Especially from the liberals and other National Socialists.
I think your philosophy is pathetic. Your racism is bread of the desire to feel special, what's the matter didn't daddy pay enough attention to you growing up... hey come to think of it have you grown up? Wouldn't surprise me if you're some middle school tit trying to make a voice for yourself.

it certainly is heartening to know that even the farthest of the right and the farthest of the left in this country would resist your militaristic, genocidal ideals with all their might.

go toddling along your merry way now freshcut.
 

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Auftrag, let me welcome you to debate politics where your posts are subjected to scrutiny by that of CNREDD.

I respect that you have your own views on life, but hating people because they are different is stupid, even the uncivilized cultures of old were able to understand this. Take for example, one of the first humanitarian efforts, slavery. Instead of killing all those who were weaker, they found that a bit over-kill, so they enslaved them.

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]We believe feminity to be a weakness and that the role of women is to defend the home and to procreate.
Yeah, right, just like Nazi Germany when the free peoples of the world came knocking on their door (not speaking of Russia, they weren't exactly free)

Does your definition of "Aryan" include that of the Asians?

The Aryan race is the dominant race on the earth, it is stronger, more intellectual and more motivated and therefore, as Aryans we believe in the creation of a pan-aryan nation covering northern and western Europe.
That's quite false, dear friend. There's a reason why Blacks are the ones who become the best Basketball, and Football players. They're genes of physical fitness is so much more then that of other races.

The jewish leaders come from families of wealth and are able to be educated
Anybody can be taught they just have to have the right resources. Unlike your crazy theory, there are White-People who's intelligence is less then that of a rock.

The founders of Nazism were not just Adolf Hitler but Ernst Roehm, Edmund Heines and Rudolf Hess, all homosexuals
Just an observation, do you think that Nazism was found becuse these Homosexuals were tired of being considered outcasts, and wanted to get revenge. Sort of like the geeky kid in school, who brings a gun to school to settle the bullying.

"homosexuality was the foundation of all nation-states and that homosexuals represented an elite strate of human society." He believed that homosexuality was a masculine, dominating trait in superior races.
I disagree, if there was a Homosexual only policy, then there would be NO offspring. So, eventually, life would end and that's not the showing of an elite strate.

The NSL not only advocate homosexuality but believe it to be a pre-requsite for the foundation of a great aryan society
Not that it's any of my business, but are you Homosexual?

The NSL is a fascist group and believe in the creation of a strong state, in which lies the tools of order, discpline and greatness.
Such extreme views aren't going to work out.

Who is the weaker one? The one who discriminates becasue of your ethnic background, or the one who accepts because we are all the same. I believe that the bully is the weaker one, he cannot deal with his own emotions of rage and hatred so he unleashes them. Whereas the silent kid is the strongest, he can hold on to his emotions without have them go bonkers.

I believe Nazism is nothing more than a hoax. Adolf Hitler didn't see anything with the Jews until he found that anti-semitism was on the rise, it was a great chance for him to make himself known.
 

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cnredd said:
OK...I think your action group of 120 is overpopulated...by about 120...
LMFAO!

The Gay Nazi movement. Now I think I've seen it all. :rofl
 

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Yeah, right, just like Nazi Germany when the free peoples of the world came knocking on their door (not speaking of Russia, they weren't exactly free)
I don't understand what you mean?

Does your definition of "Aryan" include that of the Asians?
No.

That's quite false, dear friend. There's a reason why Blacks are the ones who become the best Basketball, and Football players. They're genes of physical fitness is so much more then that of other races.
That doesn't consistute strength.

Anybody can be taught they just have to have the right resources. Unlike your crazy theory, there are White-People who's intelligence is less then that of a rock.
They have the resources and look what they have done. Let's take America for example.

Just an observation, do you think that Nazism was found becuse these Homosexuals were tired of being considered outcasts, and wanted to get revenge. Sort of like the geeky kid in school, who brings a gun to school to settle the bullying.
No, I don't think that.

disagree, if there was a Homosexual only policy, then there would be NO offspring. So, eventually, life would end and that's not the showing of an elite strate.
That's not the point. The masculinity of homosexuality and the unity this creates has always created strong and discplined forces which masterminded military tactics and technology. Homosexual culture was a pre-requisite to the civilisations which founded philosophy and politics. Namely the greeks.

This vanguard, this core of dicipline and unity is what is necessary to achieve an aryan society. Of course homosexuality cannot be forced, but it should be encouraged as a practice in order to find unity among men: men who will shape and form a pan-aryan nation.

Not that it's any of my business, but are you Homosexual?
Yes, and proud of it.

Such extreme views aren't going to work out.
Would you like to elaberate?

Who is the weaker one? The one who discriminates becasue of your ethnic background,
It is not about "ethnic background". This is a liberal concept used to water down the realities of this to make it appear simplistic and inane. This is about race. It is about survival of the fittest.

or the one who accepts because we are all the same.
But we aren't all the same. This is again, the liberal attitude which is used to keep the aryan race down. It is used to keep us where we are, to make us believe we are all equal. We are not: We are stronger and this is our world.

I believe that the bully is the weaker one, he cannot deal with his own emotions of rage and hatred so he unleashes them.
That would make it easier for you to understand wouldn't it? this has nothing to do with bullying, this is about preservation. Deal with it.

Whereas the silent kid is the strongest, he can hold on to his emotions without have them go bonkers.
The jews, silent! Don't be absurd.

I believe Nazism is nothing more than a hoax. Adolf Hitler didn't see anything with the Jews until he found that anti-semitism was on the rise, it was a great chance for him to make himself known.
Then you ignore the facts. Anti-semitism had existed long before Hitler came around. Hitler gave it focus, he argued why it existed and how we should fight an enemy which had oppressed and exploited his race.

It is ok to defend our class, it is ok to defend our families or our jew countries, but it is not ok to defend out race? Why? Why should I not be proud of my race and want to defend it against its enemies?
 

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LMFAO!

The Gay Nazi movement. Now I think I've seen it all. :rofl
Then you haven't paid any attention to Nazi history.
 

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Then you haven't paid any attention to Nazi history.
It would explain why the Sieg Heil salute is like an erect penis.
 

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What's there not to know?

You started the Holocaust: result 6-7 million Jews dead.

Invaded Poland start of fighting in Europe, WWII:something like 30-40 million dead.

Historically filled with arrogant snotty people who think they're better than everyone else because they consider themselves 'racially pure'.

I see nothing good with Nazism.
 
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It is ok to defend our class, it is ok to defend our families or our jew countries, but it is not ok to defend out race? Why? Why should I not be proud of my race and want to defend it against its enemies?
so out of curiosity freshcut, how do you propose to "defend" your "race"?
 

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It would explain why the Sieg Heil salute is like an erect penis.
I always thought the "Seig Heil" salute meant..."I wish to be...THIS TALL!"
 

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This sounds like quite a... unique philosphy.

What other societies besides the Greeks and the Romans practiced homosexuality?

I've heard many people say, not that I agree with it, that homosexuality is what caused Rome to fall. I assume that you disagree with this.

What do you think led to Rome's fall?
 

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It bit off more peoples than it could chew. Inside corruption. Empire. Got too militaristic. Not enough farmers. Discontent. Sounds somewhat close to the US.
 

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It's about time we got a Nazi on these forums!

He's wanting people to use their primative instinct instead of what nature has given us, the ability to reason.
 

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Gandhi>Bush said:
This sounds like quite a... unique philosphy.

What other societies besides the Greeks and the Romans practiced homosexuality?

I've heard many people say, not that I agree with it, that homosexuality is what caused Rome to fall. I assume that you disagree with this.

What do you think led to Rome's fall?
I heard it was their sugar from my chem teacher. Lead something or the other...poisoned themselves...of course he just might have been warning us to not sample the chemicals. :mrgreen:
 

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In regard to the original post:

A bit superficial aren't we? Superiority complex comes to mind. And, wasn't hitler gay? I heard he liked poking young jewish boy's in the rear, because he had unusually small genitallia.
 
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