Of course there is a social shift towards support of the accurately described SSM. in 1996 support was at 27%. Now it is at 53%.
For First Time, Majority of Americans Favor Legal Gay Marriage You denying the facts of this... well documented facts is pretty poor debating and completely dishonest in behavior. I know you want this to be true, but your professing is irrelevant when compared to the facts that prove you wrong. You were destroyed in that thread... completely and totally. You presented data that proved your position WRONG. It was actually pretty funny, and funnier still was watching you run away and distance yourself from your own data by making silly unsupported claims that you STILL haven't substantiated even though you were challenged to do so... certainly because you can't. So, what have we learned? In 17 years there has been a major societal shift... 27% to 53% support. The data you provided in the other thread hillariously proved your own position incorrect, and your claims in your attempt to distance yourself from that data (after it was demonstrated to destroy your argument) have still not been substantiated. And finally, that not only do you present erroneous information, distort facts or data, but when challenged, you refuse to support your positions with any information. If you disagree, feel free to dispute WITH LINKS. For example, I provided a link to the major shift in support for SSM. You are required to provide links for anything you propose that disputes those numbers. You are also required to provide links for your comments regarding conservatives not voting in those particular polls and other ways that you tried to distance yourself from the study that you provided... because it proved you wrong. If you cannot or refuse to substantiate your positions, then we know that they are not REAL and have no basis in fact. So, let's see the substantiation.
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As I'm sure you know, when people are asked only about whether SS couples should be allowed to "marry", you're going to get a different answer than when you give the public
more information and a
real and legitimate choice.
Here's that choice, as reflected in this thread's poll questions from a major participation poll:
Here's a link of relevant polled questions:
On Same-Sex Relationships.
"Do you believe gays and lesbians should be allowed to get legally married, allowed a legal partnership similar to but not called marriage, or should there be no legal recognition given to gay and lesbian relationships?"
.............................Legally married....legal partnership....No legal recognition....Unsure
....................................%............. .........%..........................%............. .......%
5/13-15/12...................37......................33... ......................25.....................5
8/10-11/10...................37......................29... ......................28.....................6
5/12-13/09...................33......................33... ......................29.....................5
11/4-5/06 LV................30......................30...... ...................32.....................7
6/13-14/06...................27.....................25.... ......................39.....................8
5/18-19/04...................25.....................26.... ......................40.....................9
3/3-4/04......................20......................33 .........................40.....................7
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Notice that the most recent response causes a drop from your 53 percentage for the oxymoronic SS "marriage" to 37 percent!
And, notice that the 29 percent who favor recognition but not oxymoronically calling it "marriage" came from, not only the "marriage" group but from the
opposed to SS "marriage" group.
Thus supporting SS recognition jumps to 70% if you call it rightly something other than "marriage".
This proves my point that the majority does not support SS .. wait for it .. .. marriage, as 63% do not support SS "marriage" though 70% want SS relationships recognized.
Now sure, there will be extreme ideologues who'll refuse anything other than the oxymoronic "marriage" as the term for these SS recognitions, but they're a really tiny and unreasonable extreme.
Clearly SS organizers would have much more success if they'd simply heed what I'm saying and work to create
homarriage domestic partnership civil unions in every state.
Now if you want to point out that from 2004 to half way through 2012 that support for the oxymoronic SS "marriage" has increased from 20 to 37%, be my guest.
Reality remains that 63% remain opposed to the oxymoronic SS "marriage" .. and no matter how often the media or SS activists brainwash the public via chanting the oxymoronic mantra "same-sex marriage", despite what these liberal-slanted polls reveal, the great majority, centrists, plus conservatives too, will continue to be opposed to the oxymoronic SS "marriage".
Again, you have nothing but wishful ideology .. and even if you trot out a small-sample poll that is even more liberally slanted in a failed attempt to override this poll I provided which was corroborated throughout the polls in the link .. well, again, you'll only be attempting to corrupt reality.
By the way .. didn't you post earlier somewhere that you work with homosexuals, that you counsel them or something?
Is it not possible that your viewpoint here could be a little biasedly clouded?
I think that's highly possible.