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Consumer rights advocate and perennial presidential vote-splitter Ralph Nader is here to help. Not only has he joined forces with the Electric Privacy Information Center and the Council on American-Islamic Relations to protest the machines, he also told The Daily Caller that he paid a visit this week to Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform meeting to recruit conservatives in his fight against “federal fondlers.”
“I said to ‘em, ‘I want to say a few words to this group, who are fully employed, fully insured, and fully clothed.’ And I said, ‘Get ready for naked insecurity.’”
Airport X-ray machines, says Nader, are a bipartisan issue. Republican Senators Tom Coburn, Susan Collins, and Richard Burr have all raised concerns that the machines emit a dangerous amount of radiation, “and you should know,” Nader added, “that the Libertarian Party, at my urging, came out with a tough statement last week against them.”
It's in there. It's just being ignored.We need to add the right to refuse X-ray security checks to the Bill of Rights.
We need to add the right to refuse X-ray security checks to the Bill of Rights.
Consumer rights advocate and perennial presidential vote-splitter Ralph Nader is here to help. Not only has he joined forces with the Electric Privacy Information Center and the Council on American-Islamic Relations to protest the machines, he also told The Daily Caller that he paid a visit this week to Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform meeting to recruit conservatives in his fight against “federal fondlers.”
“I said to ‘em, ‘I want to say a few words to this group, who are fully employed, fully insured, and fully clothed.’ And I said, ‘Get ready for naked insecurity.’”
Airport X-ray machines, says Nader, are a bipartisan issue. Republican Senators Tom Coburn, Susan Collins, and Richard Burr have all raised concerns that the machines emit a dangerous amount of radiation, “and you should know,” Nader added, “that the Libertarian Party, at my urging, came out with a tough statement last week against them.”
Alright Ralph! Its been long overdue to dismantle the TSA and to fully privatize airports. Let them handle their own security.
Nader unites us all in the fight against ‘federal fondlers’ | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment
There are two types of machines -- millimeter wavelength imaging and backscatter X-ray scanners. Both are used to see under clothes and identify unusual objects.
Only one -- backscatter X-ray machines -- expose individuals to ionizing radiation such as that used in common medical X-rays.
But the radiation levels are well below the threshold that could be considered a risk to an individual's health, said Dr. James Thrall of the American College of Radiology and chief of radiology at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.
"All of the concerns that we have about the medical use of X-rays really don't apply to these devices," Thrall said in a telephone interview.
"The exposure is extremely low and the energy of the X-rays is also very, very low," he said.
"When X-rays are used for medical imaging purposes, they have to be energetic enough to get through the human body. The X-rays used in the backscatter machines in airports have such low energy that they literally bounce off the skin. That is what backscatter implies," Thrall said.
The Supreme Court has reasoned that it is not, because when you go to an airport you expect to be searched. Why? Because people know that they will be searched at the airport.If this were true, then any seach of you personal property before boarding would be a violation, would it not?
Not sure if you're being serious or just emphasizing how ridiculous it is that we're being pressed/bullied/coerced into using technology that's not only "revealing" but potentially hazardous, but if the former...We need to add the right to refuse X-ray security checks to the Bill of Rights.
People are too easily cowed these days with the "national security" bogeyman. The TSA bullies people because they know that nobody will resist, and those that do can be further harassed by "secondary screening."Not sure if you're being serious or just emphasizing how ridiculous it is that we're being pressed/bullied/coerced into using technology that's not only "revealing" but potentially hazardous, but if the former...
Wouldn't it be easier just to apply public pressure on politicians to ease or change the federal security regulations? Some might argue a step further to abolish the TSA.
I believe that's true of international travel, but certainly not domestic travel.If this were true, then any seach of you personal property before boarding would be a violation, would it not?
If what's being reported reflects a general trend, it's almost like they've been trained to not only harrass, but humiliate people who "opt out." I've only read 2 or 3 cases, but in each one the agents drew attention to the person by yelling "we've got an opt out!" and perform the pat down in plain view of other travelers -- it's like they're saying to those people in the security lines "you sure want to bypass the x-ray?"People are too easily cowed these days with the "national security" bogeyman. The TSA bullies people because they know that nobody will resist, and those that do can be further harassed by "secondary screening."
On second thought, no. It's not harrassment. What we've got here is a failure to communicate. Some folks you just can't reach, which is the way they want it. Well, they GET it.:mrgreen:The TSA bullies people because they know that nobody will resist, and those that do can be further harassed by "secondary screening."
A growing pilot and passenger revolt over full-body scans and what many consider intrusive pat-downs couldn't have come at a worse time for the nation's air travel system.
Thanksgiving, the busiest travel time of the year, is less than two weeks away.
Grassroots groups are urging travelers to either not fly or to protest by opting out of the full-body scanners and undergo time-consuming pat-downs instead.
Tyner was simultaneously thrown out of San Diego International Airport on Saturday morning for refusing to submit to a security check and threatened with a civil suit and $10,000 fine if he left.
And he got the whole thing on his cell phone. Well, the audio at least.
I don't like it, and I don't think it helps security since you can opt to leave if you get picked for the "enhanced screening."It should be interesting to hear the reports on air travel now that we are moving into the busiest time of the year.
All the money spent at airports in response to 9/11 would have been better spent lobbing cruise missiles in the direction of those Arab countries who refuse to root out the terrorists within their own borders. And that includes the SA elite/royal family who donate money to the cause of terrorism....
All the money spent at airports in response to 9/11 would have been better spent lobbing cruise missiles in the direction of those Arab countries who refuse to root out the terrorists within their own borders. And that includes the SA elite/royal family who donate money to the cause of terrorism....
All the money spent at airports in response to 9/11 would have been better spent lobbing cruise missiles in the direction of those Arab countries who refuse to root out the terrorists within their own borders. And that includes the SA elite/royal family who donate money to the cause of terrorism....
Sure, after we find another way to run our cars and trucks.
Causing more terrorism! Yay!
We get about 10% of our oil from SA, and we can surely cut our usage by that much. Or would you prefer to continue this energy game that costs many thousands of lives just so Americans can drive anywhere, anytime.
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