Mystery Man JOHN KASICH ? who is he?? what is he?

[SailaWay]

Primaries are not the will of the voters. They never have been. They're about the party selecting someone that the party thinks can actually win.

primaries are the WILL of the republican voters and if people found out that the paarty leaders decides and not the voters a RIOT

and we saw THE RIOT when suddenly the voters changed to make trump soar and cruz and kasich fall like a rock

 

[Gaius46]

primaries are the WILL of the republican voters and if people found out that the paarty leaders decides and not the voters a RIOT

and we saw THE RIOT when suddenly the voters changed to make trump soar and cruz and kasich fall like a rock

I hate to burst your bubble but primaries have nothing to do with the will the voters. As private organizations political parties are free to use any method they desire to select their candidate. There is nothing stopping any political party from deciding to exclude it's members from voting on their candidate and having the candidate be selected by the party management. Of course the members of the party could revolt and change the leadership or just leave the party but that is not the same thing as saying that the party must respect the "will of the voters." They do not.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Kasich has always seemed to be a nice and good man....I have seen so much potential over his many years of political life.....BUT BUT CERTAIN situations and certain clues is what to look at to see who anyone REALLY IS..

How could a nice and good man IN AMERICAN POLITICS not support the WILL OF THE PEOPLE? This seems impossible
Trump won fair and square with the will of the people.....over 17 candidates ...YET Kasich teams up with cruz who buys off delegates to also stop the WILL of the people .. Kasichs view points are NOT as close to cruz as his is to trump.... so why would he do that with a more conservative than him and trump?

also no way cruz would have a better chance against hillary than trump.. so that cannot be the reason

Will Kasich show up at the democratic CONVENTION and not the republican in his state?? kasich now will have a very hard time trying to win with more wise voters.... will he now go to the party that could care less if you are honest or not..

Just because he's a decent guy doesn't mean he has to stoop so low as to support a troublemaking, lip-flapping, smack talking piece of work like Trump.

Trump looks at America like a broken business . . . so will his play-time-American turn us into a profitable-for-Trump business, or a write-it-off-bankruptcy-escape-clause business?

I'd rather people wise up and decide they don't want to find out.

 

[Renae]

is it conservative to buy off delegates to stop the will of the people??

Is it conservative to support abortion, gun confiscation, universal healthcare, call yourself a democrat and actively support progressive politicians and legislation?

 

[jimbo]

I thought this was about Kasich?

That was 4 posts ago. Sailaway ran out of Kasich caps and has moved on to a different person.

Try to keep up.

 

[jimbo]

You will care when he makes it impossible for Trump to win Ohio. You do know what that means?

Kasich is not going to make it impossible for Trump to win Ohio. Kasich could well make it impossible for Kasich to win in Ohio, but that's pretty much it.

 

[SailaWay]

Kasich is not going to make it impossible for Trump to win Ohio. Kasich could well make it impossible for Kasich to win in Ohio, but that's pretty much it.

EXACTLY.......polls show its a tie with hillary after ohio went democratic last election...Kasich destroyed his career by working against the will of the people who voted trump as the winner,,,, Kasich wanted to find ways to stop the will of the people like cruz.... both careers are over

 

[SailaWay]

he didn't endorse the traveling patent medicine salesman / carnival barker? well, i guess that makes him a heretic. he's probably even got a commie flag tacked up in his garage.

He did not endorse A FAIR ELECTION

He did not endorse the WILL of the people

those two things has ruined cruz and kasich's careers

 

[Helix]

He did not endorse A FAIR ELECTION

He did not endorse the WILL of the people

those two things has ruined cruz and kasich's careers

that's nice. Kasich still didn't endorse the carnival clown, and good on him for that. as for Cruz, i couldn't care less.

 

[SailaWay]

that's nice. Kasich still didn't endorse the carnival clown, and good on him for that. as for Cruz, i couldn't care less.

Indiana is very similar to ohio and with a long border together.. both have republican govts that has turned their states better than other rust belt states... when kasich starting working as a team with cruz and both saying NO to the voters and wanting a CONTESTED convention where delegates can STOP THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.... people woke up quickly and indiana dropped cruz and kasich suddenly where trump won in a landslide

they both had to drop out quickly because their working to stop the will of the people was spreading fast ...their careers are OVER

 

[SailaWay]

Is it conservative to support abortion, gun confiscation, universal healthcare, call yourself a democrat and actively support progressive politicians and legislation?

Success in Business means one has to pretend at times....nyc always liberal and pretending is the logical way to work the area..

Trump never brought abortion .. his family of kids prove that and says the bible is the greatest book ever

AND HERE IT IS......what makes a real conservative is to conserve the success of the future for the kids

what is that??? again what is that?? BIG OIL politicians .. bush and cruz does not want inventions or competitions that can harm their money agenda.... and if a politician goes with buying off politicians to stop inventions and competition THEY ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE

TRUMP IS THE REAL CONSERVATIVE same as teddy roosevelt who stopped the harm of monopolies... what brings progress for the future is THE REAL CONSERVATIVE

TEDDY ROOSEVELT - DONALD J TRUMP they are the same in so many ways

 

[Renae]

Success in Business means one has to pretend at times....nyc always liberal and pretending is the logical way to work the area..

Trump never brought abortion .. his family of kids prove that and says the bible is the greatest book ever

AND HERE IT IS......what makes a real conservative is to conserve the success of the future for the kids

what is that??? again what is that?? BIG OIL politicians .. bush and cruz does not want inventions or competitions that can harm their money agenda.... and if a politician goes with buying off politicians to stop inventions and competition THEY ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE

TRUMP IS THE REAL CONSERVATIVE same as teddy roosevelt who stopped the harm of monopolies... what brings progress for the future is THE REAL CONSERVATIVE

TEDDY ROOSEVELT - DONALD J TRUMP they are the same in so many ways

OR One sees opportunity with a ripe group of idiots that all you have to do is say you really didn't man all those things for so many years, use your well honed skills at selling subpar products and viola. You are the republican Nominee having convinced far too many you're something you've not been most of your life.

 

[chuckiechan]

Kasich was a managing director of Lehman Brothers, and is a career politician. He represents the elite, the status quo, and Wall Street.

He has put up, managed, and helped direct this debacle of an economy that has destroyed much of the middle class, not mention turning our down scale work force Mexican and stood by as they ran the blacks off.

His biggest benefit is being governor of a battle ground state.

 

[SailaWay]

TRUMP told the TRUTH... the system IS RIGGED.... kasich and cruz both supported the rigged system instead of saying how harmful it is to have a rigged voting system...

so Trump was the conservative here they were NOT..

america has told us all that the voters decides the election and likewise the juries decides truth or false and harm or help...

after telling americans this is the number 1 rule THEN the rich RIGS the system.... by stopping the real voting of real primaries stopping that to BUY OFF DELEGATES.... the more money to influence then the more easy to get their support to stop the will of the people

The rich does not want another TEDDY ROOSEVELT equals DONALD J TRUMP that stops the harm of monopolies

 

[Fishking]

Kasich is a phony. He's not a reasonable nice guy. It's all an act and people bought it.

How Mean Old John Kasich Became Mr. Nice - POLITICO Magazine

The challenge for Kasich is to overcome his legendary persona—more “Prince of Spite” than “Prince of Light,” unapologetically brusque, insensitive and even mean. Kasich once mimicked the convulsive shaking of a Parkinson’s sufferer—in his State of the State speech. He calls his own legislators “knuckleheads,” “thugs” and “bullies.” He publicly called the police officer who had given him a traffic ticket an “idiot.”

So far Kasich’s sunny pitch is working here in wintry New Hampshire. Polls show he has risen to second or third place. He’s racking up local newspaper endorsements, including the Boston Globe and the Concord Monitor last week. Betting it all on the Granite State—“If I get snuffed out in New Hampshire, ballgame over!” he said last week—means pulling off one of the hardest tricks in politics: transforming yourself into someone that people actually like.

 

[danarhea]

Primaries are not the will of the voters. They never have been. They're about the party selecting someone that the party thinks can actually win.

Oops, they sure screwed up this time. :mrgreen:

 

[Renae]

Oops, they sure screwed up this time. :mrgreen:

Yes they did indeed.

 

[SailaWay]

Finding the candidates for voters to vote for should NOT be left to private companies WITHOUT VOTER CONTROL

IT is congress with voter control that must stop RIGGED SYSTEMS.. IF a congress does not do that then the media must expose them to the voters to vote out.... if the media does not and is part also of the rigged system then the military MUST step in and take over the totally corrupt system

the media bought off by their money agenda does not expose this rigged system because they get their money FROM this rigged system....

AGAIN lets understand we have a system that allows the ones with the most money to stop the voters will... this wineing and dining and entertaining delegates takes money.... same as ads run everywhere... so it is a rigged system set for the CURRENT RICH to stop the NEXT TEDDY ROOSEVELT from coming that will go with inventions and competition that could stop the CURRENT RICH.... but a nation's progress is stopped that way

The loophole was set by the rich.. but its a loophole that only RAT TRAPS the ones with insane greed and no conscience
CRUZ was RAT- TRAPPED.... with his big oil money RAT-TRAPPED himself AND THE RICH got exposed..... Kasich RAT-TRAPPED HIMSELF by supporting this ugly loophole and working as a team with the one RAT-TRAPPED strongly... CRUZ

TRUMP is a HERO like teddy roosevelt to expose a RIGGED SYSTEM

 

[Mycroft]

...then the military MUST step in and take over the totally corrupt system...

LOL!! But what if the military is in on the whole thing? Who's next?

Seriously, though...you kind of have it all wrong because you are wanting someone else to do something to fix what you think is wrong. Face it, you are just like all the others...you think something is wrong and you think, "Someone's got to DO something!!" And then you start looking around for someone to do it. But the only ones who can end what you see as problems is the People, themselves. THEY must demand the changes. If their Representatives won't make them, THEY must chose Representatives who will. But, like you, the People don't want to get off their asses, take responsibility and do what they must.

The system will remain corrupt as long as the People allow it.

 

[SailaWay]

LOL!! But what if the military is in on the whole thing? Who's next?

Seriously, though...you kind of have it all wrong because you are wanting someone else to do something to fix what you think is wrong. Face it, you are just like all the others...you think something is wrong and you think, "Someone's got to DO something!!" And then you start looking around for someone to do it. But the only ones who can end what you see as problems is the People, themselves. THEY must demand the changes. If their Representatives won't make them, THEY must chose Representatives who will. But, like you, the People don't want to get off their asses, take responsibility and do what they must.

The system will remain corrupt as long as the People allow it.

TRUMP was wise and went straight for the VETS and military and law enforcement and the men he has all the real power in HIS CORNER

 

[Mycroft]

TRUMP was wise and went straight for the VETS and military and law enforcement and the men he has all the real power in HIS CORNER

"real power"??? I'm not so sure. Who would you say has the most numbers? Those vets, military and LE? Or the impressionable low-info voters and their liberal spin artists?

We'll see, I guess.

 

[SailaWay]

"real power"??? I'm not so sure. Who would you say has the most numbers? Those vets, military and LE? Or the impressionable low-info voters and their liberal spin artists?

We'll see, I guess.

just by looking at new york one can see 40% are conservatives and those 60% liberals have less power except with the voting

white males having the highest logic intellect who invents and who predicts the best is the REAL POWER

 

[cabse5]

Kasich subscribes to the sermon on the mount when deciding what to do with undocumenteds. I wonder what Kasich will do with the other books of the old and new testament when deciding what to do with undocumenteds? I dunno. I think Kasich is a lame politician..and 'theologian'. Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state? What would Kasich, er, Jesus say?

I posted this is a previous Kasich thread.

Sidenote to anyone: It's pronounced 'Kasitch' not 'Kasick' (even though it is).

 

[SailaWay]

I posted this is a previous Kasich thread.

Sidenote to anyone: It's pronounced 'Kasitch' not 'Kasick' (even though it is).

kasich went against the will of the people.. the real voters... he went to support cruz over trump... cruz who bought off delegates to stop the will of the people .. the real primary voters

 

[Mycroft]

just by looking at new york one can see 40% are conservatives and those 60% liberals have less power except with the voting

white males having the highest logic intellect who invents and who predicts the best is the REAL POWER

Actually, as we've seen numerous times, it's the voting that counts. So if, as you say, NY is 60% liberal then guess what...people who have logic are going to lose.