CaughtInThe
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Anyone have a change of heart?
I've always seen it as a good thing and still do.Anyone have a change of heart?
oh. some people here literally HATE it.Why wouldn't it be?
Oh? Are you referring to the brexit discussion? I am trying to understand your concerns.oh. some people here literally HATE it.
i bet now one is trying to exit now.Oh? Are you referring to the brexit discussion? I am trying to understand your concerns.
Unity is good. Lesson.i bet now one is trying to exit now.
not to a TON of people.Unity is good. Lesson.
Time to walk the dog
A minority now.not to a TON of people.
SuddenlyA minority now.
Because the profoundly anti-democratic EU's claims to be a state or, worse still, a nation are entirely false. The peoples of actual nations should make their own laws and govern themselves. Ceding power to inefficient and often corrupt bureaucrats in Brussels is a disastrous mistake.Why wouldn't it be?
As we have state laws.Because the profoundly anti-democratic EU's claims to be a state or, worse still, a nation are entirely false. The peoples of actual nations should make their own laws and govern themselves. Ceding power to inefficient and often corrupt bureaucrats in Brussels is a disastrous mistake.
So what? Even in the EU local councils have some very limited powers.As we have state laws.
I don't want to argue.So what? Even in the EU local councils have some very limited powers.
In which case do not pronounce on the EU about which you know so little.I don't want to argue.
Opinions, we are entitled to our opinions. You have a blessed day.In which case do not pronounce on the EU about which you know so little.
Because the profoundly anti-democratic EU's claims to be a state or, worse still, a nation are entirely false. The peoples of actual nations should make their own laws and govern themselves. Ceding power to inefficient and often corrupt bureaucrats in Brussels is a disastrous mistake.
i wonder how many countries are gonna jump into the EU so save themselves from being invaded.In which case do not pronounce on the EU about which you know so little.
Pretty gradual as Brexit reality dawned, "Project Fear" wasn't only correct after all, it underestimated the damage. Not being able to visit your holiday home in Europe more than 90 days a year, discovering that removing freedom of movement applied to you too! Higher prices in the shops, with some goods intermittently missing. Getting poorer while the very rich moved their money offshore having made billion shorting our currency.... The list goes on and on.Suddenly
To protect themselves they should jump into NATO not the EU. The latter is not and never has been a mutual defense alliance.i wonder how many countries are gonna jump into the EU so save themselves from being invaded.
I disagree. But in any case it is national freedom not personal freedom I am talking about. (I find it surprising tat you appear to think that the US War of Independence was a mistake. Perhaps the British Colonies should have remained British in the "interests of living on a peaceful planet"?).There’s always some need to give up freedoms to live in a stable society: whether it’s an individual giving up freedoms to live in a family, a family giving up some freedoms to live in a neighborhood, a neighborhood giving up some freedoms to live in a city, a city giving up some freedoms to live in a country, or a country giving up some freedoms to live on a peaceful planet.
This idea that individual freedoms Trump everything is what leads to such toxic mindsets that they people think they have the freedom to not wear a mask in a deadly pandemic and endanger others’ lives and health, or that they have the freedom to overturn democratic elections if they don’t like the results.
It’s an extremely toxic view of personal freedom, and seems to be more of a mask for malignant narcissism. That is not the kind of freedom this country was founded on.
I still wonder how many countries are going to try to jump into the EU now.. I bet it will be more than one.To protect themselves they should jump into NATO not the EU. The latter is not and never has been a mutual defense alliance.
I disagree. But in any case it is national freedom not personal freedom I am talking about. (I find it surprising tat you appear to think that the US War of Independence was a mistake. Perhaps the British Colonies should have remained British in the "interests of living on a peaceful planet"?).