Muslims - Jesus was not crucified?

Logicman said:

He gave them the manna from heaven instead, which is far better.

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There's healing services going on across America.

Have you ever been to one?

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Bodhisattva said:

Give me a break. That poor starving homeless kid or abused kid eating crap food is not attending the sermon or hearing anything about this guy.

I nailed you on this whether or not you know it.

The power of the mind is remarkable and a person that gets their cancer out is amazing but nobody walks up to a preacher with full blown cancer and the preacher prays and the cancer is gone that minute. Leg fractures and broken backs don't just disappear. Lord almighty stop drinking the cool aide. There would be no need for doctors or medicine or surgery if all we had to do was attend a "healing". Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, would dispute it and all would attend, and I mean EVERYBODY... if it was documented fact.

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Logicman said:

So you've never been to any healing services, or done any investigations on them. And you're going to try to tell me what's going on with all that?

Have a nice life.

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MH: Basically, I copied it. I learned gradually to do what all these speakers like Copeland, Cerullo, Benny Hinn and others do. They manipulate audiences and individuals simply by the power of suggestion. They call the result ‘signs and wonders’. They are deluded. Gradually, I too had learned the process of controlling meetings and inducing hypnotic techniques through suggestion in churches. I did many of the so-called signs and wonders.

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Logicman said:

So you've never been to any healing services, or done any investigations on them. And you're going to try to tell me what's going on with all that?

Have a nice life.

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Bodhisattva said:

I had never heard this before:

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
— Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 157-158


There are claims that he was not crucified, that Allah made another look like Jesus and he was crucified, that the crucification did not take long enough for him to die and that Jesus is immortal so he could not have died.

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RAMOSS said:

There is an article written by an ex-faith healer who discussed on how big a scam and fake that is.

From Ex-Faith Healer Mark Haville Explains the Tricks of the Fake Faith Healing Trade | THE WORD on The Word of Faith (a GroupBlog)



People prey (not pray) on the faithful's gullibility to separate people's money from their pocket.

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nota bene said:

Well, sure, there are flim-flam artists in every human arena. But I would never discount the possibility of miraculous healing.

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ChezC3 said:

Actually...

BBC News - Tourists flock to 'Jesus's tomb' in Kashmir

Jesus Christ: Was The Savior Buried In Kashmir, India?

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Bodhisattva said:

I am not reading through your link to find whatever evidence you are trying to present...

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