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Muslims Have Attacked Europeans for Hundreds of Years

Well, start your own thread where you tell people about what "probably" happened. That should be riveting.

There were reports of Muslim girls being sold as slaves in Marseilles. Malta was a slave market for hundreds of years as the Knights of Malta attacked pirates and Muslim shipping in general.

The papacy straight up banned taking slaves to war on the crusades because they would end up being captured and would fight fight against their old masters.
 
Why is it not taught that Muslim aggression against Europeans and Christians has been occurring for several hundred years?

From the 16th to 19th century, Muslim pirates in North Africa captured an estimated 800,000 to 1.25 million people as slaves. Most of these slaves were kidnapped Christian Europeans.



BBC - History - British History in depth: British Slaves on the Barbary Coast

Y'know, I don't think I've seen a more inappropriate pseudonym in all my days online.
 
Uh.....it was probably more then a million, but yeah, they did.

And yeah, they did target Muslim shipping.

You have seen the facts on the slave trade. You know that is not true. Europeans purchased their slaves from Muslims, not all, but the vast majority.
 
You have seen the facts on the slave trade. You know that is not true. Europeans purchased their slaves from Muslims, not all, but the vast majority.

The Europeans had more then a few Muslim slaves.

Hell, lots of African slaves were Muslims.
 
Of course he did. Because "we're doing this for Allah" plays better then "we're doing this because all those Europeans are rich and defenseless and robbing them makes us very wealthy"

"Later, slave trafficking was expressly forbidden by utilizing clever technical loopholes in the application of sharia, or Islamic law, although sharia permitted slavery. For example, by the terms of the new application of sharia, those taken as slaves could not be kept a slave if they had been Muslim prior to their capture.

They actually used sharia to change their practices into only enslaving non-muslims.

Sexual slavery was rampant on the Barbary coast as well, with white skinned women being the highest prize and fetching the highest monetary amount. Nothing's changed!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Sexual_slavery
 
"Later, slave trafficking was expressly forbidden by utilizing clever technical loopholes in the application of sharia, or Islamic law, although sharia permitted slavery. For example, by the terms of the new application of sharia, those taken as slaves could not be kept a slave if they had been Muslim prior to their capture.

They actually used sharia to change their practices into only enslaving non-muslims.

Sexual slavery was rampant on the Barbary coast as well, with white skinned women being the highest prize and fetching the highest monetary amount. Nothing's changed!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Sexual_slavery

Christians had the exact same ****ing system. Only instead of white people, most of the slaves were African. And prior to being sent to the New World, most Africans were non Christian.
 
"Later, slave trafficking was expressly forbidden by utilizing clever technical loopholes in the application of sharia, or Islamic law, although sharia permitted slavery. For example, by the terms of the new application of sharia, those taken as slaves could not be kept a slave if they had been Muslim prior to their capture.

They actually used sharia to change their practices into only enslaving non-muslims.

Sexual slavery was rampant on the Barbary coast as well, with white skinned women being the highest prize and fetching the highest monetary amount. Nothing's changed!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Sexual_slavery

Well one of the principles of Islam is dedicating yourself to the freeing of other Muslims in bondage. That differs from Christianity where you could enslave anyone you want.
 
Well one of the principles of Islam is dedicating yourself to the freeing of other Muslims in bondage. That differs from Christianity where you could enslave anyone you want.

In Christianity, I don't believe the New Testament ever condones slavery. The Old Testament certainly seems to, but Christians are Christians by virtue of the New Testament. So slavery never was a Christian practice.

The Koran however, has passages condoning slavery.
 
In Christianity, I don't believe the New Testament ever condones slavery. The Old Testament certainly seems to, but Christians are Christians by virtue of the New Testament. So slavery never was a Christian practice.

The Koran however, has passages condoning slavery.

Yep, the entire Atlantic slave trade was never a thing. /s
 
Well Islam in sub-Saharan Africa predates the Atlantic slave trade so logically at least some of the slaves taken from Africa were Muslim, especially those from the Guinea coast. There is also some entries on Wikipedia that I found rather easily.

Arab Muslims held black African slaves before Europeans did. These black African slaves were probably forced to convert to Islam by Arabic slaveholders.
 
Yep, the entire Atlantic slave trade was never a thing. /s

It was a thing, but trying to say that Christianity encourages slavery is false. The namesake of Christianity, Jesus Christ never encouraged slavery. So anyone practicing slavery in Christ's name was false.

Just like George Bush bringing up his faith in relation to the wars he created. It's nonsense and anyone who's read the Christian Bible knows its nonsense.
 
Arab Muslims held black African slaves before Europeans did. These black African slaves were probably forced to convert to Islam by Arabic slaveholders.

Well yeah, the Islamic empire would have been closer to Africa and also had the wealth for slaves. But the Romans and Greeks had slaves long before the Arabs. The Europeans however were the first to industrialize it. They most likely were not forcibly converted because as I said before one of the principles of Islam is liberating fellow Muslims form bondage. However it would have been a great way to get a group to peacefully convert to Islam, giving them a choice between slavery of conversion.
 
It was a thing, but trying to say that Christianity encourages slavery is false. The namesake of Christianity, Jesus Christ never encouraged slavery. So anyone practicing slavery in Christ's name was false.

Just like George Bush bringing up his faith in relation to the wars he created. It's nonsense and anyone who's read the Christian Bible knows its nonsense.

Christianity never encouraged it but never condemned it either. That was actually one of the earliest criticisms. But Christianity has been used as a justification to enslave people who were seen as savages by Europeans (pagans, animists, Muslims) etc.
 

Again, the small number of African Muslims that came to Guyana
That from 28. RELIGION OF THE SLAVES

In addition to a wide variety of polytheistic religions, a significant portion of the continent had for centuries fallen under Islamic influence. Despite this diversity, there were some common threads across cultural groups. For instance, West African societies, the largest source for American slaves, shared a belief in a Supreme Creator, a chief deity among lesser gods, to whom they prayed and made sacrifices.

Above from the PBS source. That is the only mention of Islam and the bolded shows it was not Islam they kept alive. There are no lesser Gods in Islam.

The caliphate brought decades of economic growth throughout the region. An estimated one to 2.5 million non-Muslim slaves were captured during jihad.

How does this help your argument? It is from your Caliphate link. So far there is nothing that proves what you said. 0.

My source:
If the early Ashanti Empire economy depended on the gold trade in the 1700s, by the early 1800s it had become a major exporter of enslaved people. The slave trade was originally focused north with captives going to Mande and Hausa traders who exchanged them for goods from North Africa and indirectly from Europe. By 1800, the trade had shifted to the south as the Ashanti sought to meet the growing demand of the British, Dutch, and French for captives. In exchange, the Ashanti received luxury items and some manufactured goods including most importantly firearms.
- See more at: Ashanti Empire/ Asante Kingdom (18th to late 19th century) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed

As you can see the slaves were bought, not hunted, by Europeans. As far as your Ashanti links it says nothing about slaves being Muslim.
 
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