Muslim Marine recruit dies at boot camp, hazing suspected

[RetiredUSN]

Historically, there have usually been a lot of retards, racists, airheads, and pricks between regular soldiers and the people who 'dictate' what the military should do.

Those types never lasted long since the mid 70's.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

A little advice to patriotic, American Muslims...DO NOT JOIN THE MILITARY.

At least until this Muslim paranoia passes.

And considering the military industrial complex AND neocons are counting on that Muslim paranoia, it might not be for SOME time.

I think I would recommend doing the opposite.

 

[RetiredUSN]

Hoping that **** is satire.

To be honest?

I wouldn't serve again after Benghazi and Black Hawk down (Somolia)

 

[Fledermaus]

To be honest?

I wouldn't serve again after Benghazi and Black Hawk down (Somolia)

Irony in that is the relief force in Somalia was Pakistani.

 

[apdst]

I thought I had some crazy Drill Sergeant stories but I never heard of a DI who literally threw soldiers into dryers. The worst we had was a Drill Sergeant who literally force fed a recruit who went and got himself a double ration profile.

My drill would have had to whip my ads and put me in the dryer himself.

Any trainer that crawls in a clothes dryer? That's his fault.

 

[apdst]

What a horrible incident. A Pakistani-American enlists into the service and dies during basic. I hope this is thoroughly investigated and heads roll. Hazing and abuse should NOT be tolerated in our military. Surely there are other ways to train our troops.

Obviously there is a line that shouldn't be crossed, but basic training is supposed to be hard.

From what I've seen and heard, basic training isn't tough enough, now.

 

[MaggieD]

Obviously there is a line that shouldn't be crossed, but basic training is supposed to be hard.

From what I've seen and heard, basic training isn't tough enough, now.

I think my statement badly needed clarification. Thanks. I agree with your first sentence.

 

[Tigerace117]

NO patriotic American should join the military.

The military is only for treasonous individuals who prefer to fight for their government instead of their country.

STFU you walking STD.

 

[apdst]

I think my statement badly needed clarification. Thanks. I agree with your first sentence.

I don't think it lacked any clarity because I agree that, "hazing", and, "abuse", shouldn't be tolerated.

Forcing a trainee to run until he collapses face down in his own vomit is one thing, but physical violence is un-called for.

 

[MaggieD]

STFU you walking STD.

WTF? Really?

Reported.

Just FYI, I also deplore what she said. And I thank you sincerely for your service. But your voice don't be heard if you cross certain lines.

 

[Deuce]

Obviously there is a line that shouldn't be crossed, but basic training is supposed to be hard.

From what I've seen and heard, basic training isn't tough enough, now.

Well, except when you literally die from it.

 

[Deuce]

I don't think it lacked any clarity because I agree that, "hazing", and, "abuse", shouldn't be tolerated.

Forcing a trainee to run until he collapses face down in his own vomit is one thing, but physical violence is un-called for.

No, forcing someone to run until they collapse face down in their own vomit is also abuse.

 

[apdst]

No, forcing someone to run until they collapse face down in their own vomit is also abuse.

Do8my so is a part of the selection process.

Would you rather weed people out in basic training, sending them home alive, or weed them out on the battlefield, sending them home in a body bag, along with whoever else died because that soldier couldn't do his job?

To the uninitiated challenging trainees to their breaking point makes perfect sense.

 

[Deuce]

Do8my so is a part of the selection process.

Would you rather weed people out in basic training, sending them home alive, or weed them out on the battlefield, sending them home in a body bag, along with whoever else died because that soldier couldn't do his job?

To the uninitiated challenging trainees to their breaking point makes perfect sense.

You have a standard, yes?

 

[apdst]

Well, except when you literally die from it.

People who aren't physically able slip through the system sometimes. We can't lower the physical standards to protect trainees, yet sacrificing lives on the battlefield as a price.

 

[apdst]

You have a standard, yes?

Does that bait have a point?

 

[Deuce]

People who aren't physically able slip through the system sometimes. We can't lower the physical standards to protect trainees, yet sacrificing lives on the battlefield as a price.

I didn't suggest lowering the standards.

 

[Deuce]

Does that bait have a point?

You can test to a standard without that sort of outcome.

 

[apdst]

I didn't suggest lowering the standards.

That's exactly what you're suggesting.

 

[apdst]

You can test to a standard without that sort of outcome.

You can't do so when you're teaching trainees to meet a physical standard. When pushing trainees, in order to weed out the ones that can't handle it, someone is Will eventually be on their ass, in exhaustion. That person is either going to quit, or suck it up and drive on. The soldiers you want are the ones that don't have to stop to pike.

 

[Hatuey]

To the uninitiated challenging trainees to their breaking point makes perfect sense.

This doesn't mean what you think it means.


Sent from a flower watered by the tears of Trump supporters and crazy newb liberals.

 

[RetiredUSN]

You can test to a standard without that sort of outcome.

Shall we reel in the abuse that the SEALS take as normal training?

 

[danarhea]

NO patriotic American should join the military.

The military is only for treasonous individuals who prefer to fight for their government instead of their country.

Damn, if we had listened to you a few decades ago, we would all be eating caviar and drinking vodka today.

 

[Deuce]

That's exactly what you're suggesting.

Liar.

 

[Deuce]

Shall we reel in the abuse that the SEALS take as normal training?

Does it involve being inside a dryer?