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Muslim Majority Believe 9-11 Was Staged

Joby

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I can't find the poll online, but CNN ran a poll a little while ago saying 60% of Middle Eastern Muslims believe 9-11 was an in-house job.

I'm not arguing for one side or another in the 9-11 debate (i just don't know), but it really helps make sense of the claim that the US is at war with Islam, since it appears to many people that we struck first, and are painting Osama bin Laden as a scapegoat.

Add in the fact that the US went to war with Saddam for very shaky reasons, and it must really look like we want to take over their lands.

I believe it really puts that stupid question "why do they hate us" that so many people who don't really...think can't understand.

Thoughts?
 
Many Muslims believe that a Muslim who blow himself up in an Israeli restaurant is getting 72 virgins in Heaven. So what? Who cares what they think?

US isn't in a war with Islam. What nonsence is this? US support many of Muslim countries and also sell weapons to Muslim countries. US is in a war against mad regimes which endanger the world peace and their religion isn't matter. Tariq Aziz is Christian, so what? Now US fight against 'Christian regimes'?

What about Chaves? He is a danger. Is he a Muslim?
 
Joby said:
I can't find the poll online, but CNN ran a poll a little while ago saying 60% of Middle Eastern Muslims believe 9-11 was an in-house job.

I'm not arguing for one side or another in the 9-11 debate (i just don't know), but it really helps make sense of the claim that the US is at war with Islam, since it appears to many people that we struck first, and are painting Osama bin Laden as a scapegoat.

Add in the fact that the US went to war with Saddam for very shaky reasons, and it must really look like we want to take over their lands.

I believe it really puts that stupid question "why do they hate us" that so many people who don't really...think can't understand.

Thoughts?


I myself do not believe 911 was an inside job, but I can believe that CNN would run a poll for middle eastern muslims to say it was in helps of doing damage control for there faith. I will be honest in saying I have no respect for islam as they have no respect for any other faith that is not islam.

You wonder why they hate us? I believe they hate us because of Christianity and support of Israel. If we were to suddenly become an islamic country and wipe Israel of the map as they wish, you can bet your bottom dollar they would bow down and pray to America, the country who abandoned all for their god allah.

And to say it was a fact that we went to war with Iraq on shaky reasons is in error. We had good reasons to go to war, WMD`s existed and it is the liberals who are in denial, or helping the cover up for their own political gains.
 
Joby said:
I believe it really puts that stupid question "why do they hate us" that so many people who don't really...think can't understand.

Thoughts?



Let's see if I've got this right. Muslims hate us because they are convinced 911 is an inside job, therefore the facts of their beliefs are self evident by way of ascribing to these beliefs the motivation thereof. In addition, since Muslims believe what they believe then WE are therefore at war with them, and events of the 21st century explain attitudes developed in the 20th.

Brilliant. Time works backwards and cause and effect are inversed.

Now that we have that one settled, if you would just be so kind as to answer the stupid question. "why can't I ever find the mate to all my mismatched socks" all the secrets of the word will be revealed.
 
The face of Jacob said:
Many Muslims believe that a Muslim who blow himself up in an Israeli restaurant is getting 72 virgins in Heaven. So what? Who cares what they think?

US isn't in a war with Islam. What nonsence is this? US support many of Muslim countries and also sell weapons to Muslim countries. US is in a war against mad regimes which endanger the world peace and their religion isn't matter. Tariq Aziz is Christian, so what? Now US fight against 'Christian regimes'?

What about Chaves? He is a danger. Is he a Muslim?

I agree. The muslims can shut it. They picked a fight with the big dog and now their getting destroyed for it. If these animals would control their people and stop following laws from 1600AD, the world might actually start taking them seriously.

Oh well ... to hell with thier terrorist believes.
 
Gardener said:
Let's see if I've got this right. Muslims hate us because they are convinced 911 is an inside job, therefore the facts of their beliefs are self evident by way of ascribing to these beliefs the motivation thereof. In addition, since Muslims believe what they believe then WE are therefore at war with them, and events of the 21st century explain attitudes developed in the 20th.

Brilliant. Time works backwards and cause and effect are inversed.

Now that we have that one settled, if you would just be so kind as to answer the stupid question. "why can't I ever find the mate to all my mismatched socks" all the secrets of the word will be revealed.

All right. Let me break it down.

If 911 was an inhouse job, it was probably used to a.) give the president more powers and b.) allow the president to use our forces and tax money to further his investments.

Using Osama bin Laden as a symbol to blame, and attacking him and taking over his country makes 911 look like the Reichstag burning with al-Qaeda playing the roles of the communists, and causes many moderates to rally around them against this foreign power trying to invade--and has never cleared up many questions concening the true nature of the attacks.

If Osama really did attack, why is the us govt so unwilling to realease the citgo/hotel tapes from virginia? or explain what the security forces were doing in the twin towers the week before the attack--and the subseguent removal of bomb sniffing dogs? or the number of put options were up 3times their daily average on 9-8, 4times on 9-9, and 11times on 9-10? or the explosions that are visible in the towers with an infrared video--that apparently cause the buildings to crumble? or explain the video that us forces stumbled upon in afghanistan showing a 50 lbs too heavy osama boasting about the attacks--even though he eats and writes in it with his right hand when it is known he's left handed, with no reports of him being ambidextrous?

I'm not saying i know, just that i can't blame somebody on that side of the argument, who feels osama was a worthy scapegoat. Of course, afghanistan ain't worth much...so we went into iraq for....what exactly?

I'm not one to believe we should declare war on anyone because their brown and their ancestors aren't the ancestors our god sides with.

All I'm saying is it is very easy for the govt to clear this up and show we really believe in all that freedom stuff we love to beat our chests to.(unless you're country has oil and you-gasp-think the common people should get a piece of it. ****ing commies. what happened to the good 'ole days of american supported fascism? oh yeah...$audi arabia/egypt and the bu$hies still l$ve each other :lol: )

so...not to get too far into conspiracy theories here, but maybe the govt. should try to clear these divisions up and get us back to those glorious arabia loves america years of the mid 40s before armagedon?
 
Anyway, I've got how we can solve this problem once and for all gardener.

Israel tries to nuke itself, or gives syria a nuke and tells them to nuke israel.

if the messiah intervenes and saves them, we'll al convert and god will rule.

if not, we'll have world peace.

it's really a win-win
 
The disparities in articularity are unequivocal....
 
Joby said:
Anyway, I've got how we can solve this problem once and for all gardener.

Israel tries to nuke itself, or gives syria a nuke and tells them to nuke israel.

if the messiah intervenes and saves them, we'll al convert and god will rule.

if not, we'll have world peace.

it's really a win-win


Gives you a regular little woodie thinking about nuking Israel don't it?

A "win-win" situation, indeed.

and you have the utter temerity to initiate a posting complaining about "theatrics".
 
Joby said:
Anyway, I've got how we can solve this problem once and for all gardener.

Israel tries to nuke itself, or gives syria a nuke and tells them to nuke israel.

if the messiah intervenes and saves them, we'll al convert and god will rule.

if not, we'll have world peace.

it's really a win-win


another win-win situation is to get rid of the islamo-fascists... why don't you wanna do that? :confused:
 
Joby said:
Anyway, I've got how we can solve this problem once and for all gardener.

Israel tries to nuke itself, or gives syria a nuke and tells them to nuke israel.

if the messiah intervenes and saves them, we'll al convert and god will rule.

if not, we'll have world peace.

it's really a win-win

NOW I understand why you have Hugo Chavez as your avatar. :roll:

So you are suggesting that the 1 sure-fire acceptible plan for peace is the destruction of Israel, whether they do it themselves or we allow terrorists to do it, calling either situation a 'win-win' scenario?! :shock:

Funny you should mention leaving it up to god to save Israel. During the 6-Day war, I believe, some experts still tell the story about how enemy planes coming in to strike Israel fell from the sky for no apparent reason. I saw a great TV special on it (regarding 'Miracles of War'), and even several Egyptians said they could not explain what happened. Happened before....who is to say it can't happen again?!
 
BudLizard101 said:
another win-win situation is to get rid of the islamo-fascists... why don't you wanna do that? :confused:

He doesn't want to do it because he's an ultra-leftist, anti-israeli kind of guy.
 
Synch said:
The disparities in articularity are unequivocal....

My apologies.

I was stoned of my ***.
 
BudLizard101 said:
another win-win situation is to get rid of the islamo-fascists... why don't you wanna do that? :confused:

or the whole region? hmmm...we're getting somewhere...
 
Joby said:
I can't find the poll online, but CNN ran a poll a little while ago saying 60% of Middle Eastern Muslims believe 9-11 was an in-house job.

I'm not arguing for one side or another in the 9-11 debate (i just don't know), but it really helps make sense of the claim that the US is at war with Islam, since it appears to many people that we struck first, and are painting Osama bin Laden as a scapegoat.

Add in the fact that the US went to war with Saddam for very shaky reasons, and it must really look like we want to take over their lands.

I believe it really puts that stupid question "why do they hate us" that so many people who don't really...think can't understand.

Thoughts?

That this whole concept is stupid.... How do you take a poll of people who can't think for themselves and then attempt to take it seriously? They think whatever they are told to think. I don't think most people ask why do they hate us. I think most don't care one way or the other what they do.
 
Calm2Chaos said:
That this whole concept is stupid.... How do you take a poll of people who can't think for themselves and then attempt to take it seriously? They think whatever they are told to think. I don't think most people ask why do they hate us. I think most don't care one way or the other what they do.

Then the whole argument over the burning of the Reichstag was stupid.

Just give the man in charge the power to protect from evil.

Anyone who raises any doubts over anything he says is hereby in that group.
 
Joby said:
or the whole region? hmmm...we're getting somewhere...


how nice of you wanting to kill innocent civiliians...

but i can't expect anything more from brain washed terrorist-sympathizing Jew-haters like yourself...
 
Now let's see, if someone from the pro-Israel fraction is able to apologize, too.
I wouldn't hold my breath in this thread.
 
Volker said:
I wouldn't hold my breath in this thread.


Oh, please do.
 
BudLizard

So, define your concept of innocent please...
 
Joby said:
Then the whole argument over the burning of the Reichstag was stupid.

Just give the man in charge the power to protect from evil.

Anyone who raises any doubts over anything he says is hereby in that group.

WTF does ythis have to do with anything?

Your promoting a poll of sheeple. That as a rule it seems are proffesionaly appressed people. They do what there told when there told and rarelyy question the wisdom behind the order. They don't livein a society where true free thinking is promoted. So any poll of there opinion if they were actually capable of having one not given to them by a mullah some place is questionable at best
 
Joby said:
Anyway, I've got how we can solve this problem once and for all gardener.

Israel tries to nuke itself, or gives syria a nuke and tells them to nuke israel.

if the messiah intervenes and saves them, we'll al convert and god will rule.

if not, we'll have world peace.

it's really a win-win


You need to seek therapy dude! That is, without a doubt, one of the most anti-semetic things I have ever seen. I view it as typical liberal anti-Israel bias.

You really should be ashamed for yourself for posting such drivel.
 
I think someone must start a thread in the name of: "The west and the civilized world believe that 9-11 and the other Muslim attacks are damaging the lives of people who want to live in this planet."
 
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