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This is what the fight is all about: In the center of Jerusalem is the sacred structure which the Jews label as the Temple Mount, and the Arabs refer to as the Haram al-Sharif (the noble sanctuary) and Al-Aqsa (the farthest Mosque). A mere 35 acres; yet touch it, and the Ummah [the Islamic homeland] will go to war.

So who has the better claim?

Ignoring the issue of political sovereignty, let us focus solely on which religion has the greater claim to that sacred space.

According to the Quran, at one time all of mankind was Muslim; and all men had apostasized into error.

Surah 42:13 ... He enjoined upon Noah and that which We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus​

However, mankind corrupted the message of Islam; and so Allah raised up one last messenger. Allah sent Jibreel (Gabriel) to a man named Mohammed to restore the original truth to the Arabs, which they were to bring to the world through jihad.


Quran 66:9 Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers ...​

According to Islam, since mankind was originally Muslim, all places of true worship must have originally been a mosque.

This is the reason that Muslim Arabs claim justification in taking the sacred areas of whatever lands they seize, and restoring the buildings to what they perceive as their original service to Allah. The "Temple Area" in Jerusalem became the Al-Aqsa (farthest) Mosque, in the city, now renamed Al Quds. Constantinople's Christian Hagia Sofia was defaced and dedicated to Islam. The Hindu Temple of Rama in Ayohya, India destroyed and rebuilt as the Babri Mosque. [The Hindus finally seized it back in 1992] One can only begin to imagine what may soon happen to Notre Dame in Paris.


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Revision of history doesn't seem to only be the realm of Progressive Marxist Ideology.
 

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Revision of history doesn't seem to only be the realm of Progressive Marxist Ideology.

So yet again we have those imaginary progressive marxists revising history...

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By Mike Konrad
August 15, 2013

This is what the fight is all about: In the center of Jerusalem is the sacred structure which the Jews label as the Temple Mount, and the Arabs refer to as the Haram al-Sharif (the noble sanctuary) and Al-Aqsa (the farthest Mosque). A mere 35 acres; yet touch it, and the Ummah [the Islamic homeland] will go to war.

So who has the better claim?

Ignoring the issue of political sovereignty, let us focus solely on which religion has the greater claim to that sacred space.

According to the Quran, at one time all of mankind was Muslim; and all men had apostasized into error.

Surah 42:13 ... He enjoined upon Noah and that which We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus​

However, mankind corrupted the message of Islam; and so Allah raised up one last messenger. Allah sent Jibreel (Gabriel) to a man named Mohammed to restore the original truth to the Arabs, which they were to bring to the world through jihad.


Quran 66:9 Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers ...​

According to Islam, since mankind was originally Muslim, all places of true worship must have originally been a mosque.

This is the reason that Muslim Arabs claim justification in taking the sacred areas of whatever lands they seize, and restoring the buildings to what they perceive as their original service to Allah. The "Temple Area" in Jerusalem became the Al-Aqsa (farthest) Mosque, in the city, now renamed Al Quds. Constantinople's Christian Hagia Sofia was defaced and dedicated to Islam. The Hindu Temple of Rama in Ayohya, India destroyed and rebuilt as the Babri Mosque. [The Hindus finally seized it back in 1992] One can only begin to imagine what may soon happen to Notre Dame in Paris.


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Revision of history doesn't seem to only be the realm of Progressive Marxist Ideology.

Funny isn't it?
 

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You are either avoiding the truth or simply ignorant of the fact. Perhaps the following treatise can open your eyes.
See:Lenin: Marxism and Revisionism

So you sincerely believe that Leninists have infiltrated the history sphere of education and have enough power to revise history to their liking? You're not serious are you?
 

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So you sincerely believe that Leninists have infiltrated the history sphere of education and have enough power to revise history to their liking? You're not serious are you?

Obviously you have not spoken to children lately. Beside their lack of English composition, literature, or mathematics they learn little to nothing about Geography, Social Studies, or true American history. The Board of Education in the City of New York recently adopted the use of a Russian History book of American History translated into English teaching children a revised version of history through the eyes of Marxists like you. That is an abomination.
 

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Obviously you have not spoken to children lately. Beside their lack of English composition, literature, or mathematics they learn little to nothing about Geography, Social Studies, or true American history. The Board of Education in the City of New York recently adopted the use of a Russian History book of American History translated into English teaching children a revised version of history through the eyes of Marxists like you. That is an abomination.

it seems many adults suffer from the same porblem
 

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Obviously you have not spoken to children lately. Beside their lack of English composition, literature, or mathematics they learn little to nothing about Geography, Social Studies, or true American history. The Board of Education in the City of New York recently adopted the use of a Russian History book of American History translated into English teaching children a revised version of history through the eyes of Marxists like you. That is an abomination.

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Yea.... Because this is all the Marxists fault that our school system isnt the best in the world.
 

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Of course, this string is more about Religion than "US Partisan Politics and Platforms" (aka the Wehrwolfen BLOG)

Here's the deal.
Jerusalem was inserted into the Koran/Islam AFTER the fact.
Big Mo had played with the idea early on... But Only to attract Jews to his otherwise BS new thing.
Then he forgot it.

The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem :: Daniel Pipes

[.........]
One comparison makes this point most clearly: Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times and Zion (which usually means Jerusalem, sometimes the Land of Israel) 154 times, or 823 times in all.
The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times and Zion 7 times.
In contrast, the columnist Moshe Kohn notes, Jerusalem and Zion appear as frequently in the Qur'an "as they do in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita, the Taoist Tao-Te Ching, the Buddhist Dhamapada and the Zoroastrian Zend Avesta"—which is to say, Not Once.
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Muslims subsequently accepted the point implicit to the Qur'anic explanation, that the adoption of Jerusalem as qibla was a tactical move to win Jewish converts. "He chose the Holy House in Jerusalem in order that the People of the Book [i.e., Jews] would be conciliated," notes At-Tabari, an early Muslim commentator on the Qur'an, "and the Jews were glad."
Modern historians agree: W. Montgomery Watt, a leading biographer of Muhammad, interprets the prophet's "far-reaching concessions to Jewish feeling" in the light of two motives, one of which was "the desire for a reconciliation with the Jews."

After the Qur'an repudiated Jerusalem, so did the Muslims: the first description of the town under Muslim rule comes from the visiting Bishop Arculf, a Gallic pilgrim, in 680, who reported seeing "an oblong house of prayer, which they [the Muslims] pieced together with upright plans and large beams over some ruined remains." Not for the last time, safely under Muslim control, Jerusalem became a backwater. This episode set the mold that would be repeated many times over succeeding centuries: Muslims take interest religiously in Jerusalem because of pressing but temporary concerns. Then, when those concerns lapse, so does the focus on Jerusalem, and the city's standing greatly diminishes.

II. Umayyads
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Toward this end (as well as to assert Islam's presence in its competition with Christianity), the Umayyad caliph built Islam's first grand structure, the Dome of the Rock, right on the spot of the Jewish Temple, in 688-91. This remarkable building is not just the first monumental sacred building of Islam but also the only one that still stands today in roughly its original form.

The next Umayyad step was subtle and complex, and requires a pause to note a passage of the Qur'an (17:1) describing the Prophet Muhammad's Night Journey to heaven (isra'):

"Glory to He who took His servant by night from the Sacred Mosque to the furthest mosque." (Subhana allathina asra bi-‘abdihi laylatan min al-masjidi al-harami ila al-masjidi al-aqsa.)​

When this Qur'anic passage was first revealed, in about 621, a place called the Sacred Mosque already existed in Mecca. In contrast, the "furthest mosque" was a turn of phrase, Not a place. Some early Muslims understood it as metaphorical or as a place in heaven. And if the "furthest mosque" did exist on earth, Palestine would seem an Unlikely location, for many reasons. Some of them:

Elsewhere in the Qur'an (30:1), Palestine is called "the closest land" (adna al-ard).

Palestine had Not yet been conquered by the Muslims and contained Not a single mosque.

The "furthest mosque" was apparently identified with places inside Arabia: either Medina or a town called Ji‘rana, about ten miles from Mecca, which the Prophet visited in 630.

The earliest Muslim accounts of Jerusalem, such as the description of Caliph ‘Umar's reported visit to the city just after the Muslims conquest in 638, NOWHERE identify the Temple Mount with the "furthest mosque" of the Qur'an.

The Qur'anic inscriptions that make up a 240-meter mosaic frieze inside the Dome of the Rock do Not include Qur'an 17:1 and the story of the Night Journey, suggesting that as late as 692 the idea of Jerusalem as the lift-off for the Night Journey had Not yet been established. (Indeed, the first extant inscriptions of Qur'an 17:1 in Jerusalem date from the 11th century.)

Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiya (638-700), a close relative of the Prophet Muhammad, is quoted denigrating the notion that the prophet ever set foot on the Rock in Jerusalem; "these damned Syrians," by which he means the Umayyads, "pretend that God put His foot on the Rock in Jerusalem, though [only] one person ever put his foot on the rock, namely Abraham."​

Then, in 715, to build up the prestige of their dominions, the Umayyads did a most clever thing: they Built a Second mosque in Jerusalem, again on the Temple Mount, and called this one the Furthest Mosque (al-masjid al-aqsa, Al-Aqsa Mosque). With this, the Umayyads Retroactively gave the city a role in Muhammad's life. This association of Jerusalem with al-masjid al-aqsa fit into a wider Muslim tendency to identify place names found in the Qur'an: "wherever the Koran mentions a name of an event, stories were Invented to give the impression that somehow, somewhere, someone, knew what they were about."

Despite all logic (how can a mosque built nearly a century after the Qur'an was received establish what the Qur'an meant?), building an actual Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Palestinian historian A. L. Tibawi writes, "gave reality to the figurative name used in the Koran."
It also had the hugely important effect of inserting Jerusalem post hoc into the Qur'an and making it more central to Islam. -Also, other changes resulted.
Several Qur'anic passages were RE-interpreted to refer to this city...
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So you sincerely believe that Leninists have infiltrated the history sphere of education and have enough power to revise history to their liking? You're not serious are you?

Actually it took many years. As a student and follower of Marxism, shouldn't you know the history of your movement within the United
States of America? I would think that people like the Rosenbergs, and Oswald would be idols of your faith in Marxism, along with Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky and Mao.
 

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Actually it took many years. As a student and follower of Marxism, shouldn't you know the history of your movement within the United
States of America?

Sure. But im also connected with reality and reality says that our education system is not ran my Marxists...

I would think that people like the Rosenbergs, and Oswald would be idols of your faith in Marxism, along with Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky and Mao.

:roll:
 

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Sure. But im also connected with reality and reality says that our education system is not ran my Marxists...



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Don't you know man? Everything is a marxist socialist conspiracy. :lamo

It cracks me up too. My dad is also a Glen Beck sheep and constantly tries to tell me about how Woodrow Wilson is literally Satan and apparently rewrote all of American history to indoctrinate the American youth in school. He blames the fact that I am a Socialist on me going through the public school system, even though I am probably the only member of my graduating class that identifies as such.

It's quite comical really.
 
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Yea.... Because this is all the Marxists fault that our school system isnt the best in the world.

I suggest you read the following:

Marxism and Education - Marxists Internet Archive

www.marxists.org/subject/education/index.htm

The Socialist System of Education, Bebel 1879 Socialism and Education, May Wood Simmons 1901 ... Marxism and Psychological Science, Activity and Personality,
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The Role of Education: Marxism - Sociology Central

www.sociology.org.uk/marxism.doc · DOC file · Web view

The education system contains what might ... the debate within Marxism about the role of cultural ... testing whether or not such a situation exists in our ...


Shouldn't you know what others with your ideology are doing to others?
 

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I suggest you read the following:

Marxism and Education - Marxists Internet Archive

www.marxists.org/subject/education/index.htm

The Socialist System of Education, Bebel 1879 Socialism and Education, May Wood Simmons 1901 ... Marxism and Psychological Science, Activity and Personality,
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The Role of Education: Marxism - Sociology Central

www.sociology.org.uk/marxism.doc · DOC file · Web view

The education system contains what might ... the debate within Marxism about the role of cultural ... testing whether or not such a situation exists in our ...


Shouldn't you know what others with your ideology are doing to others?

Hahah oh my god Marxists write stuff on education! You dont say! Wow thats all the proof i need man! Since there are articles and pieces written on Marxism and education this means that Marxists run our education system! :lamo
 

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I suggest you read the following:

Marxism and Education - Marxists Internet Archive

www.marxists.org/subject/education/index.htm

The Socialist System of Education, Bebel 1879 Socialism and Education, May Wood Simmons 1901 ... Marxism and Psychological Science, Activity and Personality,
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The Role of Education: Marxism - Sociology Central

www.sociology.org.uk/marxism.doc · DOC file · Web view

The education system contains what might ... the debate within Marxism about the role of cultural ... testing whether or not such a situation exists in our ...


Shouldn't you know what others with your ideology are doing to others?

Where in this document does it mention that our public school system is run by Marxists? The only mention of the United States in this document is about how we educate both sexes equally.
 

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Hahah oh my god Marxists write stuff on education! You dont say! Wow thats all the proof i need man! Since there are articles and pieces written on Marxism and education this means that Marxists run our education system! :lamo




Marxist Thought and its Influence on American Education | …

academia.edu/3486106/Marxist_Thought_and_its_Influence_on_American...

Andrew Mayton EDPS301 Professor Brigette DuBois The Rise of Marxist Thought and its Effect on American Public Education With roots and etymology in as early as …
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Denial of Parental Rights in Education.
Some years ago, I had the privilege of publishing a thirty page Statement of Principles and Policy on Atheistic Education in Soviet Russia. The opening paragraph of this document stated:

The Soviet school, as an instrument for the Communist education of the rising generation, can, as a matter of principle, take up no other attitude towards religion than one of irreconcilable opposition; for Communist education has as its philosophical basis Marxism, and Marxism is irreconcilably hostile to religion. "Marxism is materialism," says V. I. Lenin; "as such, it is as relentlessly hostile to religion as the materialism of the Encyclopaedists of the eighteenth century or the materialism of Feuerbach."

How has this philosophy penetrated the United States? So deeply that most Americans have only the faintest idea of what is going on in our schools. William Foster, former American chairman of the Communist party, wrote in Toward a Soviet America that he wanted the "cultural revolution" to be advanced under the aegis of a national department of education.

That is exactly what the National Education Association lobbied for during the 1976 presidential campaign, and a Department of Education is exactly what the American president gave the union in gratitude for its support.

Foster wrote that the Department of Education should be "revolutionized, cleansed of religious, patriotic and other features of the bourgeois ideology – The students will be taught on the basis of Marxian dialectical materialism, internationalism, and the general ethics of the new Socialist society."

What happened to parents’ rights to educate their children? In less than a quarter century, these rights have been lost by most parents in the United States. Most of the once Catholic schools in America have been closed. This manuscript is being written in an empty Catholic school, once taught by dedicated women religious who have been beguiled by Marxian ideology.

Parents who courageously teach their children at home are being subjected to inhuman pressures, not only by State but by Church authorities.

Some time ago, I was asked by Rome to write a series of articles on John Dewey, the atheistic genius who is commonly regarded as the father of American education. According to Dewey, the idea of "God" represents a unification of ideal values that is essentially imaginative. In other words, God does not exist, except as a projection of our imagination.

That is why religion, which believes in the existence of a personal God is excluded by American law from public schools. That is also why Catholic schools in our country have been deprived of any government support. According to Dewey, it is a mistake to think that in the United States we have separation of Church and State. No, says Dewey, in America we have the subordination of Church to State.

On these premises, what is left of parents' rights in the education of their children? Nothing, except what a Marxist government allows the parents to teach.

Fr. Hardon Archives - The Influence of Marxism in the United States Today

Revision of history, selective reading and inculcation favoring Marxist ideology has been the aim of Communists for nearly one hundred years. The assault on American education began in the 1930's. I was lucky enough to have been taught by those who were not yet infected. Yet people like you are either blind to it, or willing participants. I learned to be a free thinker and have educated my children in the same manner.
 
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Marxist Thought and its Influence on American Education | …

academia.edu/3486106/Marxist_Thought_and_its_Influence_on_American...

Andrew Mayton EDPS301 Professor Brigette DuBois The Rise of Marxist Thought and its Effect on American Public Education With roots and etymology in as early as …


Denial of Parental Rights in Education. Some years ago, I had the privilege of publishing a thirty page Statement of Principles and Policy on Atheistic Education in Soviet Russia. The opening paragraph of this document stated:

The Soviet school, as an instrument for the Communist education of the rising generation, can, as a matter of principle, take up no other attitude towards religion than one of irreconcilable opposition; for Communist education has as its philosophical basis Marxism, and Marxism is irreconcilably hostile to religion. "Marxism is materialism," says V. I. Lenin; "as such, it is as relentlessly hostile to religion as the materialism of the Encyclopaedists of the eighteenth century or the materialism of Feuerbach."

How has this philosophy penetrated the United States? So deeply that most Americans have only the faintest idea of what is going on in our schools. William Foster, former American chairman of the Communist party, wrote in Toward a Soviet America that he wanted the "cultural revolution" to be advanced under the aegis of a national department of education.

That is exactly what the National Education Association lobbied for during the 1976 presidential campaign, and a Department of Education is exactly what the American president gave the union in gratitude for its support.

Foster wrote that the Department of Education should be "revolutionized, cleansed of religious, patriotic and other features of the bourgeois ideology – The students will be taught on the basis of Marxian dialectical materialism, internationalism, and the general ethics of the new Socialist society."

What happened to parents’ rights to educate their children? In less than a quarter century, these rights have been lost by most parents in the United States. Most of the once Catholic schools in America have been closed. This manuscript is being written in an empty Catholic school, once taught by dedicated women religious who have been beguiled by Marxian ideology.

Parents who courageously teach their children at home are being subjected to inhuman pressures, not only by State but by Church authorities.

Some time ago, I was asked by Rome to write a series of articles on John Dewey, the atheistic genius who is commonly regarded as the father of American education. According to Dewey, the idea of "God" represents a unification of ideal values that is essentially imaginative. In other words, God does not exist, except as a projection of our imagination.

That is why religion, which believes in the existence of a personal God is excluded by American law from public schools. That is also why Catholic schools in our country have been deprived of any government support. According to Dewey, it is a mistake to think that in the United States we have separation of Church and State. No, says Dewey, in America we have the subordination of Church to State.

On these premises, what is left of parents' rights in the education of their children? Nothing, except what a Marxist government allows the parents to teach
Fr. Hardon Archives - The Influence of Marxism in the United States Today

Oh god you found an article by a nut! Im in belief now! :lamo
 

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I'm sure you would have preferred a Cloward-Piven Treatise, or those of Saul Alinsky.

No. One that isnt blatantly crazy. If Marxists have infiltrated the schools system and control it like you claim why arent we breeding millions of little Marxists around?
 

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No. One that isnt blatantly crazy. If Marxists have infiltrated the schools system and control it like you claim why arent we breeding millions of little Marxists around?

Haven't you looked in the mirror lately, or read your own profile? Do you really think you live in Oz? It's Kansas Dorothy.

Like Lee Harvey Oswald you wear your Marxism on your sleeve. Now who was your mentor, Frank Marshall, or were you exposed taught and nurtured in school?
 
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Haven't you looked in the mirror lately, or read your own profile? Do you really think you live in Oz? It's Kansas Dorothy.

Yes, because there are a couple of Socialists on a forum the entire United States public educational system is just a Marxist brainwashing camp.

I don't know when you graduated from high school, but I graduated in 2012. If anything, my education was extremely anti socialist and communist. I remember my world history teacher basically going on rants that were essentially slander about Marx and other communist leader. My government teacher also went out of his way to prove to us that Capitalism was the best system. Out of my graduating class of 400, I am probably the only one that would stand up and say "I am a Socialist."

I came to the conclusion that I agree with the Socialist ideology on my own, through my own research and discussions with people.
 

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Haven't you looked in the mirror lately, or read your own profile? Do you really think you live in Oz? It's Kansas Dorothy.
:monkey


Like Lee Harvey Oswald you wear your Marxism on your sleeve. Now who was your mentor, Frank Marshall, or were you exposed taught and nurtured in school?

:lamo So we will not be talking about anything substantive?
 

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Yes, because there are a couple of Socialists on a forum the entire United States public educational system is just a Marxist brainwashing camp.

I don't know when you graduated from high school, but I graduated in 2012. If anything, my education was extremely anti socialist and communist. I remember my world history teacher basically going on rants that were essentially slander about Marx and other communist leader. My government teacher also went out of his way to prove to us that Capitalism was the best system. Out of my graduating class of 400, I am probably the only one that would stand up and say "I am a Socialist."

I came to the conclusion that I agree with the Socialist ideology on my own, through my own research and discussions with people.

Well young man, I seem to have a leg up on you there. I graduated High School in June 1954. Of course you now claim you came to the conclusion on your own. I only ask to see the subjects you were taught, books you read, the teachers you had and then the grades you've received. What's Trigonometry? Can you derive the Pythagorean Theorem?
 
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