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Muslim Child Brides in Britain

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It is heartbreaking, even as it is unsurprising. In Britain, the authorities are now reporting the forced marriage of girls as young as nine years old on British soil. We are not talking about one case, but several, which take place under official protection. We are not speaking, then, about parents or “husbands” who are being charged with a criminal offense. The situation, in other words, is completely unacceptable and makes clear that we have a crying need for a new approach to these matters. Government must put its foot down – and powerfully so – so that there will be no doubt as to the way in which such grotesque crimes will be addressed.

First, when I say that the marriage of nine-year-old girls in today’s Britain (and the rest of the EU, for that matter) is unsurprising, my statement is based on my own 17 years of experience in the field of immigration: forms of assault based on tradition and religion – including child marriage, forced marriage, genital mutilation, so-called honor-related offenses such as rape and murder – have become established here as a result of immigration, mostly from Muslim countries. Instances of these offenses have been documented in countries such as Norway (where, to be sure, there have been no recorded cases of marriage to girls as young as nine, but where the marriage of an 11-year-old came to light in a TV documentary that I worked on as journalist; such cases have also been known in Sweden). The only phenomenon that has not been documented in Norway thus far is forced eating by girls before they are to be married off. I was told about this practice by feminists in Paris in 2003, and the phenomenon had been imported into France by immigrants, mostly from Mali. Girls are locked up and fed like geese before being married, because in their culture being fat is considered beautiful.

This being said, the news from Britain, which has been reported in the Times, deserves widespread attention. Because the authorities are obviously aware of very serious information about actual children who are supposedly under the protection of those very same authorities. In other words, Britain’s Ministry of Justice, if the Times is to be believed, knows who these children’s parents are, parents who have attempted to arrange for the rape of their own children. For this is what we are talking about here: the deprival of children’s freedom, plus countless years of repeated rape. Such phenomena must force authorities to sit down with a cool head and a warm heart and ask themselves: who are we, and where are we going? What are we doing to ourselves as a nation, to our heritage, to our culture, to our future? According to the Times, however, British authorities are not doing anything of the kind. Here comes the proposed initiative, and before you read this sentence you had better take a deep breath. The Ministry of Justice says that the children’s parents are receiving help from the authorities “to solve the problem.”

I must admit that the principal methods being used in such cases in Norway and in Europe generally – namely, information and dialogue – no longer hold a particularly cherished place in my heart. In my view, the methods must be appropriate to the crime. By far the majority of parents in Europe understand that marriage to children is not “good”; it is precisely for this reason that such weddings do not take place in display windows. The same goes for the husbands with which these children are compelled to tie the knot – and by whom they are raped. As a consequence of the very high levels of immigration from majority-Muslim countries to Europe, we have seen the establishment in European cities of more or less closed enclaves which live according to the norms and values of the residents’ countries of origin. These enclaves, as a rule, have turned their backs on the countries of which their residents are citizens; you might say that they close their blinds. My view is that the current situation calls for stronger measures. Because we are entirely behind the times.

Muslim Child Brides in Britain -- Hege Storhaug

Why are Muslims forming Muslim enclaves throughout Europe instead of assimilating? As a matter of fact, instead of assimilating and integrating they are Islamizing Europe and with the helpful acquiescence of the authorities. Indeed, instead of standing up for their principles and their own culture, the European power elites are charging those like Geert Wilders and others, who have to audacity to legitimately criticize Islam, with hate speech for sounding the alarm.

They say that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and moderate. If that is so, then why are the majority of Muslim emigrants in Europe refusing to assimilate and integrate and instead slowly but surely Islamizing Europe?

Anyway, it will be interesting to see and watch how the officials in the USA approach these very same problems as the numbers of Muslims infiltrating into the USA continues to rise post 9/11.
 

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You have to consider the intense indoctrination and brainwashing which Islam itself demands, with penalties ranging from 'expulsion' to death for not playing ball. It is a tug between orthodox Islam and the free spirited human nuture to balance this. Moderate Islamic sects and communities developed in reaction to the sub-Stalinism of full Islam and even today this breeds severe resentments between Islamic peoples.

In the old days Muslims came to Britain for a quiet life away from the oppression and hardships of their mother countries. And as Labour opened the immigration floodgates as much as they dared in the immediate postwar period, many took advantage.

These days a hard crust of young emboldened second-generation Muslims, the neo-Nazis of their religion, demand concession after concession for their culture even though they have never lived under the full-blown dictatorships they advocate. Seeing politicians fail to clamp down on 'militants' without falling into a vortex of liberal hand-wringing only makes the hardliners believe they are all the more righteous if they are capable of stirring doubt in their kafr enemies.

Muhammad, the 'perfect man' is supposed to be emulated by Muslims. So no wonder paedophilia, brutality, wiping your bottom with stones and oppression of women and totalitarianism attracts no shortage of volatile nutters, as did the National Front in its heyday.

Here's a spokesman on Islamic marital relations in Saudi Arabia, Islam's birthplace and spiritual home:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OZ3s0BcSxs"]YouTube- Mohammed The Pedophile[/ame]
 
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They say that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and moderate. If that is so, then why are the majority of Muslim emigrants in Europe refusing to assimilate and integrate and instead slowly but surely Islamizing Europe?


there are integration problems, which are probably due to their too important presence in some districts, but you should not exagerate neither. They are not islamizing anything, at most they keep their culture.
 

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Any examples of the nameless "authorities" who are supposedly reporting this stuff? Thought not.

I googled child bride and one of the first hits was Priscilla Presley! :rofl
 

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There are plenty of things Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. do that I consider harmful to children. If you want freedom for your religion you can't deny others freedom for their religion.
 

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There are plenty of things Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. do that I consider harmful to children. If you want freedom for your religion you can't deny others freedom for their religion.

Sorry, but one should draw the line at baby raping.....:roll:
What if N.A.M.B.L.A. proclaimed itself a religion?.....:doh
Would you condone grown men diddling little boys?....:confused:
I hope not......:(
 

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Sorry, but one should draw the line at baby raping.....:roll:
What if N.A.M.B.L.A. proclaimed itself a religion?.....:doh
Would you condone grown men diddling little boys?....:confused:
I hope not......:(

Rape, murder, genital mutilation, and locking children in cages are harmful and should be stopped. But we perform genital mutilation on children here, and Jews do it as part of religious ceremonies. To blame these things on one particular religion or group of immigrants is discriminatory and prejudicial. Every society has these problems.

Marriage itself doesn't hurt anyone, including children. There can still be rape within marriage. If non-consensual sex is occurring, by all means prosecute. If you don't think anyone under the age of 18 can consent to sex, I disagree.
 
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Rape, murder, genital mutilation, and locking children in cages are harmful and should be stopped. But we perform genital mutilation on children here, and Jews do it as part of religious ceremonies. To blame these things on one particular religion or group of immigrants is discriminatory and prejudicial. Every society has these problems.

Marriage itself doesn't hurt anyone, including children. There can still be rape within marriage. If non-consensual sex is occurring, by all means prosecute. If you don't think anyone under the age of 18 can consent to sex, I disagree.

Nine year olds can not (or should not)consent to sex......:roll:
If you are referring to circumsicion in the bolded part of your quote, I say hogwash, I had it done with no ill effects, it's quite different for a woman....
My point is, you can practice your religion, but not if it breaks the law....;)
 

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To blame these things on one particular religion or group of immigrants is discriminatory and prejudicial.

Really...what other religions lop off the clits of little girls other than Muslims and some animists? What other religion marries off little prepubescent 9 years old females?

There are plenty of things Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. do that I consider harmful to children. If you want freedom for your religion you can't deny others freedom for their religion.

Nice very idiotic moral equivalence. In any event, what religion other than Islam has as its highest mandate the subjugation of all non-Muslims other than Islam? Indeed, what other religion is a religion of submission whereby the freedom of conscience is forbidden and where apostasy and blasphemy are punished by death? While we are at it, what other religion always harshly discriminates and often violently oppresses all non-Muslims living inside Muslim countries without exception? Oh yeah...what other religion without exception refuses to assimilate and integrate and instead Islamizes? And if you think the Muslims are assimilating and integrating nicely in American society, you haven't been paying attention, which in your case isn't surprising.
 

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there are integration problems, which are probably due to their too important presence in some districts, but you should not exagerate neither. They are not islamizing anything, at most they keep their culture.

Have you visited a college campus lately? Not to mention have you paid attention to all the lawsuits meant to silence people trying to sound the alarm?
 

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No British child brides? This belongs in the conspiracy theory section.
 

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There are plenty of things Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. do that I consider harmful to children. If you want freedom for your religion you can't deny others freedom for their religion.


Even if their religion and islamic law condone marriage between old men and baby girls? Are you really suggesting that we should not deny them this tradition?
 

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The OP is an opinion piece by a Norwegian who supplies no documented evidence, and speaks of 'authorities' without identifying them. I could as easily write a sensational opinion piece about paedophile rings supported by Norwegian 'authorities'. It plays into the current tendency towards Islamophobia in some circles, but until there is some substantiation, this is hardly worth discussing.
 

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I can't imagine any other circumstance where Mr Rove would willingly jump into bed with a Norwegian lesbian feminist! :shock::rofl
 

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No British child brides? This belongs in the conspiracy theory section.

The OP is an opinion piece by a Norwegian who supplies no documented evidence, and speaks of 'authorities' without identifying them. I could as easily write a sensational opinion piece about paedophile rings supported by Norwegian 'authorities'. It plays into the current tendency towards Islamophobia in some circles, but until there is some substantiation, this is hardly worth discussing.

Uhm...he clearly states that he is commenting on a news report from the Times of London. How could you willfully blind miss it?
 

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Well, y'all have courts and jails right? Problem solved. If this is really going on, then investigate and charge people and prove it in a court of law. Britain isn't ruled by Islamic law, hold people to the law of the land.
 

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Uhm...he clearly states that he is commenting on a news report from the Times of London. How could you willfully blind miss it?

"He" is a Norwegian lesbian feminist. How could you wilfully blindly miss it? She claims her allegation comes from the "Times", but provides no link or reference details. A search of the Times database for "child brides" gives no results for Britain. How strange.:roll:
 

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"He" is a Norwegian lesbian feminist. How could you wilfully blindly miss it? She claims her allegation comes from the "Times", but provides no link or reference details. A search of the Times database for "child brides" gives no results for Britain. How strange.:roll:

The first thing I did before making my post, was conduct the same search, with the same results. Hence my comments about a lack of substantiation. Thank you for confirming that. :)
 

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It is heartbreaking, even as it is unsurprising. In Britain, the authorities are now reporting the forced marriage of girls as young as nine years old on British soil. We are not talking about one case, but several, which take place under official protection. We are not speaking, then, about parents or “husbands” who are being charged with a criminal offense. The situation, in other words, is completely unacceptable and makes clear that we have a crying need for a new approach to these matters. Government must put its foot down – and powerfully so – so that there will be no doubt as to the way in which such grotesque crimes will be addressed.

First, when I say that the marriage of nine-year-old girls in today’s Britain (and the rest of the EU, for that matter) is unsurprising, my statement is based on my own 17 years of experience in the field of immigration: forms of assault based on tradition and religion – including child marriage, forced marriage, genital mutilation, so-called honor-related offenses such as rape and murder – have become established here as a result of immigration, mostly from Muslim countries. Instances of these offenses have been documented in countries such as Norway (where, to be sure, there have been no recorded cases of marriage to girls as young as nine, but where the marriage of an 11-year-old came to light in a TV documentary that I worked on as journalist; such cases have also been known in Sweden). The only phenomenon that has not been documented in Norway thus far is forced eating by girls before they are to be married off. I was told about this practice by feminists in Paris in 2003, and the phenomenon had been imported into France by immigrants, mostly from Mali. Girls are locked up and fed like geese before being married, because in their culture being fat is considered beautiful.

This being said, the news from Britain, which has been reported in the Times, deserves widespread attention. Because the authorities are obviously aware of very serious information about actual children who are supposedly under the protection of those very same authorities. In other words, Britain’s Ministry of Justice, if the Times is to be believed, knows who these children’s parents are, parents who have attempted to arrange for the rape of their own children. For this is what we are talking about here: the deprival of children’s freedom, plus countless years of repeated rape. Such phenomena must force authorities to sit down with a cool head and a warm heart and ask themselves: who are we, and where are we going? What are we doing to ourselves as a nation, to our heritage, to our culture, to our future? According to the Times, however, British authorities are not doing anything of the kind. Here comes the proposed initiative, and before you read this sentence you had better take a deep breath. The Ministry of Justice says that the children’s parents are receiving help from the authorities “to solve the problem.”

I must admit that the principal methods being used in such cases in Norway and in Europe generally – namely, information and dialogue – no longer hold a particularly cherished place in my heart. In my view, the methods must be appropriate to the crime. By far the majority of parents in Europe understand that marriage to children is not “good”; it is precisely for this reason that such weddings do not take place in display windows. The same goes for the husbands with which these children are compelled to tie the knot – and by whom they are raped. As a consequence of the very high levels of immigration from majority-Muslim countries to Europe, we have seen the establishment in European cities of more or less closed enclaves which live according to the norms and values of the residents’ countries of origin. These enclaves, as a rule, have turned their backs on the countries of which their residents are citizens; you might say that they close their blinds. My view is that the current situation calls for stronger measures. Because we are entirely behind the times.

Muslim Child Brides in Britain -- Hege Storhaug

Why are Muslims forming Muslim enclaves throughout Europe instead of assimilating? As a matter of fact, instead of assimilating and integrating they are Islamizing Europe and with the helpful acquiescence of the authorities. Indeed, instead of standing up for their principles and their own culture, the European power elites are charging those like Geert Wilders and others, who have to audacity to legitimately criticize Islam, with hate speech for sounding the alarm.

They say that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and moderate. If that is so, then why are the majority of Muslim emigrants in Europe refusing to assimilate and integrate and instead slowly but surely Islamizing Europe?

Anyway, it will be interesting to see and watch how the officials in the USA approach these very same problems as the numbers of Muslims infiltrating into the USA continues to rise post 9/11.
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Happens all over the world, and is not unique to islam or Britain. There are child brides in the US for example and fully accepted due to religious freedom. In fact the place where there are most child brides is in India among the hindus, where it is a tradition going back many centuries.
 

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Happens all over the world, and is not unique to islam or Britain. There are child brides in the US for example and fully accepted due to religious freedom. In fact the place where there are most child brides is in India among the hindus, where it is a tradition going back many centuries.

Hogwash, it has never been a lawfully accepted practice here.....;)
Not to say it has not been tried by several religious factions, but when they are caught, they go to jail......;)
 

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Hogwash, it has never been a lawfully accepted practice here.....;)
Not to say it has not been tried by several religious factions, but when they are caught, they go to jail......;)

Hard to throw someone in jail when they live in a fortified compound and live in secret. When the authorities finally do go in then they lawyer up.. yes I am talking about the Texas paedophile group. No way to prove that the girls are not "married" under the legal age, but we all suspect it dont we now.
 

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Hard to throw someone in jail when they live in a fortified compound and live in secret. When the authorities finally do go in then they lawyer up.. yes I am talking about the Texas paedophile group. No way to prove that the girls are not "married" under the legal age, but we all suspect it dont we now.

:spin: That's right, they lawyer up...;)
Right after they are exposed & arrested.....
Your post in no way refutes my statement....
Criminal acts are criminal acts, regardless of what your specific brand of religion says....;)
 

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:spin: That's right, they lawyer up...;)
Right after they are exposed & arrested.....
Your post in no way refutes my statement....
Criminal acts are criminal acts, regardless of what your specific brand of religion says....;)


Like Jerry Lee Lewis and his 13 year-old cousin/wife? Elvis waited till she was legal, but selected Priscilla when she was 14. ;)
 
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