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MSNBC's Ari Melber Breaks Down Trump's Religious Vetting Plan

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MSNBC's Ari Melber Breaks Down Trump's "'Impractical,' 'Unworkable,' 'Impossible,' 'Not Doable'" Religious Vetting Plan

JOE SCARBOROUGH (CO-HOST): Ari, so you actually spoke with over 20 homeland security experts about Trump's proposal. How would it work?

ARI MELBER: Yeah, there's been questions about whether this is legal and whether it's a good idea. We dug in, because he is the major party nominee here, on what it would actually take. We can put up some of the quotes we got talking to people who were ICE, DHS, border security. They said it's “impractical,” “unworkable,”“impossible,” “not doable.”

SCARBOROUGH: Anybody tell you that it could be done?

MELBER: Some people looked at the price estimate, and I can show you that, 189 million entries to the U.S. a year that are non-immigrant entries. So, if you take that and you say, actually you want to patrol and vet those people for their beliefs, for their religion, you have to start looking at what the top Muslim nations are. We can put those up, Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Of the top ten Muslim nations, only one has religion on a passport, which means you'd have to personally vet these people.

SCARBOROUGH: Well, and that's what Trump said, you'd have to ask them. You start by asking their religion.

MELBER: You'd have to ask them, you'd have to decide whether they were telling the truth, and then you'd have to track it. John Sampson, a former ICE official we spoke to, again, these are people who do border security for a living, said "what are you going to do here, tattoo the crescent on those who are Muslim? Are you nuts?" And we heard that again and again from people who basically said, this isn't workable. Now, you ask, what if you wanted to do it? Well, ballpark right now, we spend about $21.5 billion on immigration enforcement. We were told by officials it would take multiples of that. Maybe three times, 60 billion, maybe five times, up to 100 billion just to set up the kind of global vetting system to look at people's beliefs.

For those of you who don't like Media Matters (I don't blame you):

Experts Say Trump'''s Muslim Ban Would Cripple Immigration System - NBC News

"You are never going to be able to block the lawful migration of people based on their religious views," said John Sandweg, former Acting Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Asked how a Muslim ban could be implemented, Sandweg said, "It's impossible."

"The volume is probably too significant" to administer a ban, said Don Crocetti, who created the fraud detection and national security program for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

"I don't think it's doable," said Michael Cutler, who spent 30 years as a special agent for the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).
 
Hasn't Trump already shifted to not allowing refugees from Muslim countries that support terrorism? I think Jeb was the religious test candidate.
 

Trump and insanity are identical twins. Is anyone surprised that it can't be done?

The issue of terrorism is ultimately not one of religion. It's been said countless times that the vast majority of Muslims are good and peaceful people. Punishing all Muslim people would exacerbate the issue. It would create more homegrown terrorists within the U.S. Recent terrorists in France have been native born French Muslims just as several recent American terrorists have been American Muslims.

I certainly don't have the answer but whatever the answer is Trump's idea isn't it. One thing I do know, the solution will not have an immediate affect. It will take perhaps a generation.

We do know at least a couple of reasons the problem exists:

1. The West has been screwing with Islamic nations for over 50 years. And even worse, we can't seem to leave them the hell alone. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and more. We cannot and seemingly will not leave them alone. How can we expect Muslims not to be angry?

2. Saudi Arabia and much of the American big money and much of Washington are in bed together. The Saudis own too much of America for the American plutocracy to extricate itself from Saudi influence, not that it wants to.

3. Predatory capitalism. The world pays for it in blood while a few people become more rich and more powerful.
 
Is this the same DHS who is giving tips to illegals on how to avoid the Border patrol and
immigration officers?

How about a really novel idea and start enforcing our nations immigration laws.
Stop making excuses why you won't do it.

One other thing, anyone with two working brain cells does not care what Morning Joe has to say.
That program is in the tank for Hillary!! The entire program is spent smearing Trump and Trump supporters.
 
Hasn't Trump already shifted to not allowing refugees from Muslim countries that support terrorism? I think Jeb was the religious test candidate.

Yes, he shifted his position once again. Now, his supporters are trying to maintain that Trump never did want a religious test for entry into the US and that he was misquoted. It has to do with the Trumpeteers and their belief in the mutability of the past.
 
Is this the same DHS who is giving tips to illegals on how to avoid the Border patrol and
immigration officers?

How about a really novel idea and start enforcing our nations immigration laws.
Stop making excuses why you won't do it.

One other thing, anyone with two working brain cells does not care what Morning Joe has to say.
That program is in the tank for Hillary!! The entire program is spent smearing Trump and Trump supporters.

Nonsense.
Where do you get your news, rant radio?
 
I wonder if those were the same experts that said "Donald Trump cannot beat Hillary Clinton"

djl
 
Those words describe Trump's entire campaign.

there is nothing unconstitutional about religious based vetting of foreign nationals who may have rights in the UN but not here
 
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