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Progressives will now twist your words and redefine your intent...
They always have had that same right.
Boycotts are pretty much the only exercise in free speech that the common person has that can have any measurable effect. If people want to boycott gay-friendly businesses, have at it. We'll see how that goes.
People are free to boycott. I think it's stupid, but I respect peoples rights to do it. I boycott Progressive but not because of their politics - I'm sick of that freaking Flo woman! Argh!
I'm glad you support the idea of a Christian company forcing out someone who donated to pro-gay causes. Because that's going to happen, and I'll remind you.
That would be too legitimate. It has to be because of your personal opinions. Your boss found out you voted for a Democrat or you support homosexual marriage and boom, that's why you're fired. Nothing to do with your speech or actions in regard to your employer.
I still think they don't get the irony of their own words. "You're intolerant and a bigot because you don't see it my way", that's what I keep reading. That's I guess a more progressive way of saying "When I want your opinion I'll give it to you"
I have zero desire to speak out against other people's rights. None of my business, but you bet your bottom dollar if I started speaking out against any group of people, I'd lose my job.
That would be too legitimate. It has to be because of your personal opinions. Your boss found out you voted for a Democrat or you support homosexual marriage and boom, that's why you're fired. Nothing to do with your speech or actions in regard to your employer.
That would be too legitimate. It has to be because of your personal opinions. Your boss found out you voted for a Democrat or you support homosexual marriage and boom, that's why you're fired. Nothing to do with your speech or actions in regard to your employer.
Um, you specifically said loudmouth. I took that as meaning the latter. Now if I sold a product and my consumers were not happy with my political ways, they have a right to stop buying my products.
Did not Eich have the right to privacy? Did he not have the right to support a reasonably prevalent political position at the time? So now, 6 years later, after the situation has changed, his rights are now bridged in some way? Shouldn't you be speaking out in favor of his rights?
Or is it that he is one of the 'group of people' that it's OK to abridge their rights?
Its kinda gotta count the same for everyone in order to mean anything to anyone. Yes, there is a cultural shift underway, and everyone is kinda groping around coming to grips with it, but it's already here pretty much. What's the sense in punishing someone for politically incorrect positions of years and situations past at this date after the battle has already been won? I just don't see it?
I boycott Progressive insurance too, because it's lousy insurance. And yes, those commercials are terrible.
1. I never said I supported the idea of a Christian company doing that, just like I don't support Mozilla taking the actions they did -- it was overly knee-jerk and probably a dumb idea. I support the right to do so, however, as long as it doesn't violate employment law.
2. If "Christian companies" want to come off as petty and vindictive as Mozilla's employees have, hey, knock yourselves out.
I still think they don't get the irony of their own words. "You're intolerant and a bigot because you don't see it my way", that's what I keep reading. That's I guess a more progressive way of saying "When I want your opinion I'll give it to you"
Precisely. And enough people (apparently) told Mozilla they'd stop using Firefox that Mozilla divested itself of a potential liability, for better or worse.
Woah, slow down there. I'm not a Christian and I don't have a company.
I want the Geico pig to eat the Progressive lady.
But you will support Hobby Lobby if they terminate someone because she donated to a cause that opposed Prop 8, I hope.
Eich exercised his right to free speech by donating money to a political cause. Do not the employees of Mozilla and their supporters have the same right to free speech, utilized by putting pressure on the company?
Here's a news flash, I don't care about his religion one way or another. If he wants to outlaw gay marriage so be it. Please just don't cry when people speak out against you taking their right away. Furthermore, if they stop buying your product don't cry victim.
I think being against gay marriage is bigoted because it is supporting exclusionary policy.
Eich wasn't fired.
It's just a sad state of affairs when people are so frightened to actually stand for something and speak their mind. The left (and much of the right) today is a bunch of mind numbed robots. Afraid to take any position, afraid to actually care about anything until they check which way the political winds are blowing.
They need to check and see what would be the acceptable stance for them to take, the one that would gain approval, not the true stance that they actually might care about. I guarantee that most of the politicians today don't give a rat's ass about gay marriage and would switch their stance tomorrow if they felt it would give them a better chance at reelection. Hell, Obama did it.
By donating, he put his beliefs in the public square.
"All of the Liberals" are attacking Hobby Lobby? That's funny, I'm a liberal and I haven't said a word about Hobby Lobby until this thread (and I didn't bring it up). Do we seriously not see the difference between two unrelated cases?
The Mozilla case is about a company divesting itself from what it sees as a potential liability due to the (overzealous) backlash his employment caused.
The Hobby Lobby case is about a company attempting to get out of covering medical services in its insurance policies.
I said earlier that I think this is overreach by the Anti-Eich Brigade.
I'll speak for myself. I don't want to boycott, I want to see people like you fired for expressing your opinion on this issue. I too want to see some scalps, some personal wreckage in the lives of liberals.
I can't wait. But right now they're too wrapped up in the world where everyone who doesn't agree with them is a bigot.
I boycott Progressive insurance too, because it's lousy insurance. And yes, those commercials are terrible.
1. I never said I supported the idea of a Christian company doing that, just like I don't support Mozilla taking the actions they did -- it was overly knee-jerk and probably a dumb idea. I support the right to do so, however, as long as it doesn't violate employment law.
2. If "Christian companies" want to come off as petty and vindictive as Mozilla's employees have, hey, knock yourselves out.
By donating, he put his beliefs in the public square.
You're moving the goalposts. Eich wasn't fired, very likely because outright firing him would violate some sort of employment law.
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