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Mother of alleged Kenosha shooter gets standing ovation at GOP event

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Wow you know a lot more about this than I do. Can you share the videos?
There's over 100 pages, of discussions and videos and other evidence. It's worth a read through, or at least a skim, if you're interested in the case. Just have to turn on your partisan BS detector if it isn't already.
 

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Wow you know a lot more about this than I do. Can you share the videos?
I provided a copy of his "defense" video in this response:

...Right after Rittenhouse gets up after shooting the last "victim" in the arm, several shots are heard...causing him to turn and run again.


Go to 8:11 in this video. You hear SEVERAL shots fired as Rittenhouse gets up and tries to leave.
I actually provided other videos in other Forum threads on the series of events.

Here is a website with other evidence:

 
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If a cop had knelt on a dog's neck, listening to it whimper and feeling it twitch for eight minutes until it finally died, you'd be outraged. Because it was a black guy you have to have it be the black guys fault.
Yeah, something is very wrong.
Of course, because a dog isn't a 6' 7" felon resisting arrest for the crime he just committed. Floyd brought about his own death. Simple as.
 

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One was a criminal drug addict. The other was a person working to save lives who ended up defending himself from other criminals. Yes...something is very wrong...but not the way YOU think it's wrong.
The minor, who broke the law carrying a firearm across state lines, wasn't there is save any lives but to play out a video game in real life. he was there to confront protesters- there were no lives at risk at the gas station and he would have acted the same way 'defending' an empty parking lot... :rolleyes:

He was a little big man in way over his head- do note no other 'defenders' used deadly force in a very confused confrontation. There is a reason minors have more restrictions on firearm ownership and use...Kyle just proved that... ✌
 

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The minor, who broke the law carrying a firearm across state lines, wasn't there is save any lives but to play out a video game in real life. he was there to confront protesters- there were no lives at risk at the gas station and he would have acted the same way 'defending' an empty parking lot... :rolleyes:

He was a little big man in way over his head- do note no other 'defenders' used deadly force in a very confused confrontation. There is a reason minors have more restrictions on firearm ownership and use...Kyle just proved that... ✌
You've got a few basic facts wrong. You should catch up on the KR main thread. The political spin both sides have created is transparent. He isn't a hero or saint, and he isn't a racist mass murderer. This one is really going to hurt the Dems more though because they're so convinced they're right, that even when they're proven wrong by the charges being dismissed or him being found not guilty of all charges, there will be riots, looting and burning. It still won't be proof that they're wrong, but just more evidence that the system is systemically racist, regardless of the facts of the case or the fact that no black people were shot.
 

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The minor, who broke the law carrying a firearm across state lines,
He didn't

wasn't there is save any lives
He was

but to play out a video game in real life.
He wasn't

he was there to confront protesters
He wasn't

there were no lives at risk at the gas station
He wasn't defending a gas station and he did treat injured protesters

and he would have acted the same way 'defending' an empty parking lot... :rolleyes:

Yes, I'm sure he would have put out fires and treated the injured in an empty parking lot...and he certainly would have defended himself if he was attacked in an empty parking lot.

He was a little big man in way over his head- do note no other 'defenders' used deadly force in a very confused confrontation. There is a reason minors have more restrictions on firearm ownership and use...Kyle just proved that... ✌
He handled himself very well. He didn't attack anyone who wasn't already attacking him. He didn't use excessive force. He protected himself and removed himself from the danger. He also attempted to turn himself in at the scene and actually did turn himself in the next day.

Perhaps the reason no other "defenders" used deadly force is because nobody attacked them. If they HAD been attacked, they would be just as justified using deadly force to protect themselves as Rittenhouse was.

Rittenhouse is an example of how anyone SHOULD use a firearm in such a situation. For defensive purposes only.
 

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He didn't



He was



He wasn't



He wasn't



He wasn't defending a gas station and he did treat injured protesters




Yes, I'm sure he would have put out fires and treated the injured in an empty parking lot...and he certainly would have defended himself if he was attacked in an empty parking lot.



He handled himself very well. He didn't attack anyone who wasn't already attacking him. He didn't use excessive force. He protected himself and removed himself from the danger. He also attempted to turn himself in at the scene and actually did turn himself in the next day.

Perhaps the reason no other "defenders" used deadly force is because nobody attacked them. If they HAD been attacked, they would be just as justified using deadly force to protect themselves as Rittenhouse was.

Rittenhouse is an example of how anyone SHOULD use a firearm in such a situation. For defensive purposes only.
Well, this is why we have juries.
 

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He didn't He was He wasn't He wasn't He wasn't defending a gas station and he did treat injured protesters Yes, I'm sure he would have put out fires and treated the injured in an empty parking lot...and he certainly would have defended himself if he was attacked in an empty parking lot. He handled himself very well. He didn't attack anyone who wasn't already attacking him. He didn't use excessive force. He protected himself and removed himself from the danger. He also attempted to turn himself in at the scene and actually did turn himself in the next day. Perhaps the reason no other "defenders" used deadly force is because nobody attacked them. If they HAD been attacked, they would be just as justified using deadly force to protect themselves as Rittenhouse was. Rittenhouse is an example of how anyone SHOULD use a firearm in such a situation. For defensive purposes only.
Yes it i's against the law for a minor to have in his possession a firearm except in a few very precise circumstances. No where does it say a minor can go across state lines to participate in a protest/counter protest armed with a rifle. You can pretend he would have done all manner of things but not with a rifle at the ready. He got in over his head, was dressed for a cow tipping event not to 'help' anyone. When the crowd surged he panicked and ran from the other 'heroes', not handling himself well.

No Rittenhouse was a violence magnet who looked for trouble. (If he wasn't to play EMT he could have worn his EMT vest, had his aid bag and not a semi rifle... :rolleyes:

What did strike me as odd was [protesters yelling the minor had just shot people and the cops didn't even stop him to verify anything. Spin all you want, this isn't defending your home but going looking for trouble with so little training, no experience and apparently not invited by anyone there. Time to send a clear message, mind your own side of the fence and don't think because you know how to operate a firearm you are trained for confrontations and can be a free lance vigilante... ✌
 

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Yes it i's against the law for a minor to have in his possession a firearm except in a few very precise circumstances.
He was in compliance with the law.

No where does it say a minor can go across state lines to participate in a protest/counter protest armed with a rifle.
He didn't go across state lines with a rifle. He is free to go across state lines anytime and for any reason he wants. And nowhere does it say he cannot go to a protest (he didn't participate in any protest and he wasn't there to counter protest) armed with a rifle.

Look, you are doing nothing but make shit up. I'm not even going to read the rest of your nonsense.

You are dismissed.
 

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The mother of Kyle Rittenhouse, an Illinois teenager charged with fatally shooting two people and injuring a third in August during Black Lives Matter protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, received a standing ovation at a Wisconsin GOP event on Thursday.

Rittenhouse, 17, is being charged as an adult for six counts, including two of first degree murder, for allegedly shooting Anthony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum with a semi-automatic, military-style rifle. He has become a cause célèbre among conservatives, and has attracted millions to his legal defence as he fights extradition to Wisconsin.


I don't know what else to say expect there is a major sickness in America. This is very tragic. There are Christian funds raising millions for Rittenhouse. Right wingers have attacked George Floyd and his past, but they have elevated this kid to hero status. Something is very wrong. :(
Clinton had it right when she called them Deplorables.
 

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She drove her 17 year old to a powder keg.
 

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He was in compliance with the law. He didn't go across state lines with a rifle. He is free to go across state lines anytime and for any reason he wants. And nowhere does it say he cannot go to a protest (he didn't participate in any protest and he wasn't there to counter protest) armed with a rifle. Look, you are doing nothing but make shit up. I'm not even going to read the rest of your nonsense. You are dismissed.
You contradict yourself, first you say he didn't go across state lines with a rifle and then you say he is free to cross states lines anytime he wants, but both states are clear- minors can't walk the streets with a rifle... :rolleyes:

He wasn't a certified EMT as he claimed, he was a youth cadet. He is the one making stuff up... He was there as part of the vigilante counter protest playing cop. He had ZERO training to be patrolling the street armed with anything... ☹

He was a dumb kid playing cop who had NO business being in another state, armed with an AR, inserting himself willingly into a spot trained and seasoned law enforcement struggled to keep a reasoned mindset. He was a little big man playing real life video games and panicked when the video game got way too real.... ✌
 

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You contradict yourself, first you say he didn't go across state lines with a rifle and then you say he is free to cross states lines anytime he wants,
No contradiction.

He didn't cross state lines with a rifle. But he DID cross state lines.
 

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No contradiction. He didn't cross state lines with a rifle. But he DID cross state lines.
Quibbling??? Imagine that... :rolleyes:

How did the rifle cross state lines and end up in the minor's hands??? His mother is refusing to answer questions at this point. Illinois doesn't allow minors to own firearms, did his mom give her minor son 'her' AR to use unsupervised in another state? Looks like she is a law breaker as well as her minor son.

He lied about being a certified EMT, he lied about why he was there, it isn't 'his job' to protect citizens, which he didn't, and he had ZERO training on riot control, got separated from his 'team', which seems to be happy to get away from a little big man with an AR.

He isn't the poster boy (literally a boy) for 'good guy with a 'gun'', he is a punk kid fed tRumper rabid right BS and soft enough in the head to buy into it... ✌
 

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Quibbling??? Imagine that... :rolleyes:

How did the rifle cross state lines and end up in the minor's hands??? His mother is refusing to answer questions at this point. Illinois doesn't allow minors to own firearms, did his mom give her minor son 'her' AR to use unsupervised in another state? Looks like she is a law breaker as well as her minor son.

He lied about being a certified EMT, he lied about why he was there, it isn't 'his job' to protect citizens, which he didn't, and he had ZERO training on riot control, got separated from his 'team', which seems to be happy to get away from a little big man with an AR.

He isn't the poster boy (literally a boy) for 'good guy with a 'gun'', he is a punk kid fed tRumper rabid right BS and soft enough in the head to buy into it... ✌
The rifle was always in WI. It isn't illegal for a minor to own a rifle in IL, they can. It wasn't illegal for him to possess a rifle in WI. 948.60 3c is a clear exception that allows 16 and 17 year olds to legally possess a rifle or shotgun even if they're not hunting or supervised. If nobody had chased him, if nobody had attacked him,. nobody would be shot. There are a lot of adults in the situation that made worse and more legally dubious decisions that night.
 

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The rifle was always in WI. It isn't illegal for a minor to own a rifle in IL, they can. It wasn't illegal for him to possess a rifle in WI. 948.60 3c is a clear exception that allows 16 and 17 year olds to legally possess a rifle or shotgun even if they're not hunting or supervised. If nobody had chased him, if nobody had attacked him,. nobody would be shot. There are a lot of adults in the situation that made worse and more legally dubious decisions that night.
It is illegal to open carry in Wisconsin if you are under 18. He is under 18 and is charged with that crime.
 

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It is illegal to open carry in Wisconsin if you are under 18. He is under 18 and is charged with that crime.
We haven't settled that issue. Each side thinks it's obvious they're right.
 

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We haven't settled that issue. Each side thinks it's obvious they're right.
He has been charged....it isn't about a side, it is the law....he was carrying, that is not up for debate and he is under 18. The statute is clear....of course they are going to try to argue he is innocent, they are attorneys they would argue serial killers are just poor misunderstood children...if they are paid to do so. I will trust the DA knows more about the law than you do.
 

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He has been charged....it isn't about a side, it is the law....he was carrying, that is not up for debate and he is under 18. The statute is clear....of course they are going to try to argue he is innocent, they are attorneys they would argue serial killers are just poor misunderstood children...if they are paid to do so. I will trust the DA knows more about the law than you do.
He wasn't charged with illegally open carrying, he was charged with illegally possessing. It is up for debate since there is a specific exemption in the law he was charged with for 16 and 17 year olds to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun, no supervision or hunting/target practice etc required. That is the stated position of each side. You say he was because the DA knows the law better, I point to the law and it's very specific exemption that applies to KR. We argued about it for like 20 pages without reaching any further than that.
 
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