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Aurora151989 said:
James Elgin Gill is the most premature baby born at 128 days early.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=48345

If you google him, you will see that he's still alive and well. Just some food for thought.

oh, the topic is life in the womb.
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But what does 168 days premature really mean?

The math goes like this:

Average gestation 270 days
Days early 128
Days in utero 142
Days in a month 30
Months in the womb 4.7
Months in a trimester 3

I can't wait to read the responses from the Pro-Death crowd.

Alas, there probably won't be any.
 
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now that i see the math, it makes sense really. most abortions are in the 1st trimester or the first 12 weeks. James was born in the 2nd trimester or at 20.286 weeks. and i divided days in womb (142) by 7 (# of days in a week)
 
Interesting, but it doesn't cahnge my abortion stance any.
 
do you have any limitations on WHEN in the pregnancy enola?
 
Aurora151989 said:
do you have any limitations on WHEN in the pregnancy enola?
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No, I believe in abortion as early as possible butas late as necessary.
 
so, you'll kill a baby that's being born at full term?
 
Aurora151989 said:
so, you'll kill a baby that's being born at full term?
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No, I won't be killing anyone, thank you.

But as I said before, I do support the abortion procedure being performed until birth.
 
Enola/Alone said:
No, I won't be killing anyone, thank you.

But as I said before, I do support the abortion procedure being performed until birth.
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For supporting abortion you already have the blood of millions upon millions on your hands.
 
jimmyjack said:
For supporting abortion you already have the blood of millions upon millions on your hands.
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*Yawn* And that advanced the debate how?
 
just ignore him, i see that you will perform an abortion on a woman who is full term and is in labor, i don't agree because you may as well just get the baby out and give it up for adoption. that's another matter though because no woman is going to wait til she's in labor to decide she wants an abortion. I was hoping to get steen in here, oh well
 
Enola/Alone said:
*Yawn* And that advanced the debate how?
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It has demonstrated the grave nature of supporting abortion. It is not just a belief that you embrace, you actively uphold your opinion therefore you up hold abortion.

The debate has now advanced, because you can see this is no longer a matter of trading statements but of influencing change through democratic processes such as publishing opinions. Those that read your comments will act upon them in one way or another, since we live in a democracy.
 
Yes, "viability" has gotten earlier. Some prochoicers are concerned with viability...to others it makes not a bit of difference. How someone could "yawn" at the thought of killing a viable human is really honestly beyond me.
 
Enola/Alone said:
Interesting, but it doesn't cahnge my abortion stance any.
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If you consider yourself to be a reasonable person, what would it take to change your stance?
 
Enola/Alone said:
No, I believe in abortion as early as possible butas late as necessary.
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What makes abortion, as you say, "necessary"?
 
Enola/Alone said:
No, I won't be killing anyone, thank you.

But as I said before, I do support the abortion procedure being performed until birth.
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Do you doubt that to be successful, the procedure must first kill the child in utero before it is extracted?

Baby Jimmy makes an excellent case for what is going on in the womb at the mid point in a pregnancy, doesn't he?
 
Aurora151989 said:
so, you'll kill a baby that's being born at full term?
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I'll bite.

Yeah, I will. If there's noone willing to claim parenthood of a child, it's more humane to kill the child immediately than to leave it to starve-- and you can't force someone to be a parent at gunpoint. What are you going to do, send the child home with an unwilling mother? Some random stranger?

On a practical level, I think the State should step in and adopt most unwanted children, but I don't see any reason that the State should adopt a severely deformed or defective infant if the parents are unwilling. And I sure as Hell wouldn't blame the parents for being unwilling.
 
jimmyjack said:
For supporting abortion you already have the blood of millions upon millions on your hands.
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Really? Must be why my skin looks so good lately.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
I'll bite.

Yeah, I will. If there's noone willing to claim parenthood of a child, it's more humane to kill the child immediately than to leave it to starve-- and you can't force someone to be a parent at gunpoint. What are you going to do, send the child home with an unwilling mother? Some random stranger?

On a practical level, I think the State should step in and adopt most unwanted children, but I don't see any reason that the State should adopt a severely deformed or defective infant if the parents are unwilling. And I sure as Hell wouldn't blame the parents for being unwilling.
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The folks who ran the hospitals in 1930s Germany had the very same viewpoints.
 
Fantasea said:
The folks who ran the hospitals in 1930s Germany had the very same viewpoints.
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they also wore clothing. what's your point?
 
Fantasea said:
Re-read my post a few times. Perhaps you'll get it.
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ok......


no, i still dont get what nazi germany has to do with any of this.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
I'll bite.

Yeah, I will. If there's noone willing to claim parenthood of a child, it's more humane to kill the child immediately than to leave it to starve-- and you can't force someone to be a parent at gunpoint. What are you going to do, send the child home with an unwilling mother? Some random stranger?

On a practical level, I think the State should step in and adopt most unwanted children, but I don't see any reason that the State should adopt a severely deformed or defective infant if the parents are unwilling. And I sure as Hell wouldn't blame the parents for being unwilling.
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but more humane than killing it would be putting it up for adoption. there are gobs of couples out there who can't have children and would love to adopt a newborn.
 
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