No, they ostracize them and financially ruin them. Of course, it isn't legal for them to kill people in the civilized West anymore.
Leaving the Fold / Third-generation Scientologist grows disillusioned with faith - SFGate
In the late 1800s, Mormons killed Apostates, too.
Islam: Muslims Divided Over Penalty For Apostasy - Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty 2010
Here is an article on apostasy in Islam.
What would you then see as "radical" when all agree that apostasy should be punished?
And Islam has been doing it between 500 A.D. and today.
Um it's not history for Islam that's a pretty key difference. Christianity may have once been just as crazy as Islam but it isn't any longer today Islam takes the winning prize of bat**** craziest and most violent theist belief structure.
I am defending the lumping together of a very small violent subset of a belief system with everyone else who DOESN'T go out and kill people in the name of their religion.And you being a laughable little lapdog for violent theists and their imaginary man in the sky that tells them to kill people doesn't leave you in exactly what one would call a very tenable position either.
You're actually, 100% wrong in this case. Here's the evidence:
NY Law Library, DEP Noise Code, 1998 ---
24-217 Exemptions.
The provisions of this code shall not apply to the operation or use of any organ, bell, chimes or other similar instrument by any church, synagogue, mosque or school.
NPC Law Library: city of New York Noise Ordinance
So I'll ask again, why not change your opinion and go all the way, since there is no noise ordinance in NYC that would prevent it. I think it's time you move the goal post and change your argument.
That is dealing with Organs and Bells, I don't know entirely what the law says about a call to worship, which is indeed an Imam reciting scripture loudly.
And Islam has been doing it between 500 A.D. and today.
Um it's not history for Islam that's a pretty key difference. Christianity may have once been just as crazy as Islam but it isn't any longer today Islam takes the winning prize of bat**** craziest and most violent theist belief structure.
Imam: Mosque near Ground Zero would prove American religious tolerance
Why the assumption that we have something to prove? Meanwhile, we're expected to take Islam's claims of "tolerance" (which is according to its own definition and standards, not the Western tradition) as an article of politically correct faith. The tasteless positioning of a mosque near Ground Zero is also intended to foist another part of that dogma on New Yorkers -- namely, that Islam had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, so a mosque in that location ought to be quite alright, right?
But there are two problems here: 1. Islamic jihad was the motivation behind those attacks, and 2. it is Islam that has a problem with tolerance, as is made clear by its own texts and teachings (one may start with Qur'an 9:29, 98:6), and the abundance of Islamic nations cited as "Countries of Particular Concern" in the annual report of the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom.
The Imam of the Ground Zero Insult, Faisal Abdul Rauf, is not the nice guy he likes to hold himself out to be...
During a recent Friday sermon, this writer did due diligence as a mosque monitor and heard Rauf deny that Muslims perpetrated 9/11. In an interview with CNN shortly after 9/11, Rauf said, "U.S. policies were an accessory to the crime that happened. We [the U.S.] have been an accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. Osama bin Laden was made in the USA." Elsewhere, Rauf has stated that terrorism will end only when the West acknowledges the harm it has done to Muslims. And that it was Christians who started mass attacks on civilians.
Rauf has numerous ties to CAIR, an unindicted co-conspirator in the Department of Justice funding case brought against Hamas, an openly terrorist organization. CAIR is also the initiator of numerous cases designed to intimidate non-Muslims from criticizing aggressive Muslim behavior, and to use our own legal and democratic processes to undermine and dominate America, forcing it to become Islamic.
Jihad Watch?
Are we supposed to take that seriously?
That has all the credibility of the last hack article you posted.
Can't dispute it on the merits so you try to attack the source. Weak.
If the sources have an agenda and no credibility, damn Skippy.
A hack is a hack.
The recent Times Square bombing attempt is also brought up as a reason for Mayor Bloomberg to stop to the mosque from being built. “If not, he will be helping to provide a handy meeting place for future terrorists, those who understand Imam Rauf’s real message: Speak sweetly, appear to be a well-adjusted member of American society, and plan the destruction of America, either with bombs or ‘peaceful’ undermining.”
The mosque is called Cordoba House. Muslims like to refer to Spain and especially the city of Cordoba as a place where their rule reached a glorious peak. Contrary to the myth of a Golden Age of equality during the Muslim occupation of Spain (and in particular in Cordoba), Spain and Cordoba were places where Christians and Jews suffered as social inferiors under Islamic oppression.
Equal civil rights never existed for non-Muslims under Sharia, or Islamic law. Rauf even admits as much when he writes, "Jews and Christians living under Muslim rule simply had to pay a tax to finance their protection by their Muslim overlords." This is not equality! Americans do not demand a special tax to protect Muslims from ourselves. That would be extortion, not "protection."
Well I suppose it's good that we're not under Sharia or Islamic law then.
Rauf gets even trickier here. He states in his book, “What’s Right With Islam,” that a society that follows natural law, such as America, is already practicing Sharia. However, he does not note that his peculiar definition of Sharia acceptance is shared by just about no other Imam. So what prevents him from adjusting his singular idea of Sharia back to the norm of forced conversions, murdering non-Muslims and apostates who leave Islam, amputations of thieves’ hands, stoning of adulterous women, execution of homosexuals, etc.? Throughout his writing, Rauf floats an image of a harmonious, pleasant Islam – nice to everybody. But this is totally disconnected from Islam’s actual history of bloody conquest, enslavement, and humiliation of other people – which he never acknowledges.
Have you bothered to look at the Imam and how others including Jews view him?
Anyone can post a series of spam articles from hacks. Now lets get one from a non-Islamic source...
Now Newsweek is a hack? :lol::lol::mrgreen:
Rauf says we are.
... or any similar instrument...
Like the human voice. Sorry but you didn't know this part when you posted.
So says most level-headed individuals.So says you.
So says most level-headed individuals.
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