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More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

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Not as much as I disagree with local spending as I note we had serious problems there in a lot of areas which led to it moving away. We must understand that before we start just making those generalizations. Local governments have not been perfect either. And even if we agreed to move more back that way tomorrow, we'd have to address those past problems.

No, of course local governments are not perfect but at least people have more control then when they are a thousand miles away.

We can see what happened with Solyndra and now with Sunpower. It's either corruption or incompetence on a grand scale, as it is the Fast and Furious program, but if this was local the people could do something about it. As it is, te American people can do very little. There might be a resignation or two but with billions, or trillions, of dollars gone, it really doesn't matter.
 

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WE are their bosses. It is up to US, not business men, though they are free to join us come election time. If you want to change wall street, without going the political rout, you're going to have to a slightly more radical rout. Wall Street has no legal obligation to any of us, and are therefore totally unconcerned what some group of people outside their office windows consuming products their subsidiary companies produce are doing. You either need to find proof of illegal activity and bring legal action against them, or you need to do something that would actually harm how they do business, disrupt their cash flow, alter their lives in some way as individuals.

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No, of course local governments are not perfect but at least people have more control then when they are a thousand miles away.

We can see what happened with Solyndra and now with Sunpower. It's either corruption or incompetence on a grand scale, as it is the Fast and Furious program, but if this was local the people could do something about it. As it is, te American people can do very little. There might be a resignation or two but with billions, or trillions, of dollars gone, it really doesn't matter.

More control? Maybe. but what does that mean? Those with power have more control to segregate, to abuse, to hide money and pad pockets, to give to the haves and take from the have nots. Education is a good example. People foreget that the move to more federal involvement was due to huge gaps between the haves and have nots. This was education under local control. While both are subject to corruption, local has the good old boy thing going on. Pad my palm and I'll pad yours type of thing.

Again, I'm not opposed to moving more back to the states in priniciple, but it is simply not true that it would correct all problems. We would simply be replacing one set of problems with another. No matter what we do, we still have to pay attention, be vigilent and participate. If we don;t do that, it really doesn't matter much.
 

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I was unaware they were protesting their government officials. Maybe we should "Occupy the Assisted Media" next?
 

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Again, I'm not opposed to moving more back to the states in priniciple, but it is simply not true that it would correct all problems.

Firstly, I never said it would "correct all problems" so you are claiming I said something untrue which you have actually fabricated and then go on to argue against.

This is all too common with leftists. Seriously, what is it with you people that you can't even read a paragraph or two without screwing it all up and coming up with something that was never mentioned? If it was once it can be overlooked but when it's this consistent it strongly suggests that the Left everywhere is suffering from cognitive disorders that have yet to be given any serious study.
 

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Firstly, I never said it would "correct all problems" so you are claiming I said something untrue which you have actually fabricated and then go on to argue against.

This is all too common with leftists. Seriously, what is it with you people that you can't even read a paragraph or two without screwing it all up and coming up with something that was never mentioned? If it was once it can be overlooked but when it's this consistent it strongly suggests that the Left everywhere is suffering from cognitive disorders that have yet to be given any serious study.

Perhaps you should read all of it instead of just one part. The actual response is that it may be no better if not worse. The argument isn't really about all problems being solved, that's why it is important to read everything. You should also know that i don't represent leftists, whoever they are, in any way. You're having a discussion with me and not any them.

Now if you can get into the meat of what was said, and respond to that, perhaps we can move foreward. :coffeepap
 
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