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Simpletruther said:
What? You don’t see the media constantly putting forth the notion that cops kill blacks at disproportionate rates?

This is really hard for me to believe. It’s the entire reason for the protests and rioting.

What exactly do you think the protests and rioting are about? Are you for Real?
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No I don't.

I do think that when it does happen it is reported. (like everything on the news)

What is happening is what always happens. After something happens, all the other incidents of similarity are over covered and it seems like it's overwhelming.

Hey, I have ZERO use for BLM types. But facts are facts. There is no agenda to push a belief that cops go out hunting blacks.

That said, there is systemic.

This is on Trump, he weaponizes anything that can cause division. You know this.

BTW, I am a republican never Trumper.
 
noonereal said:
No I don't.

I do think that when it does happen it is reported. (like everything on the news)

What is happening is what always happens. After something happens, all the other incidents of similarity are over covered and it seems like it's overwhelming.

Hey, I have ZERO use for BLM types. But facts are facts. There is no agenda to push a belief that cops go out hunting blacks.

That said, there is systemic.

This is on Trump, he weaponizes anything that can cause division. You know this.

BTW, I am a republican never Trumper.
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It’s truly incredible to me that you see no agenda to push that cops are killing blacks at disproportionate rates.

Have you tried googling these words?


So again, I ask, what do you think these protests and riots are about?
 
Paradoxical said:
Too little too late. He should have done that at his acceptance of the nomination. People see through this attempt at salvaging and I am sure they consulted with Antifa and BLM first.
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and.......You did not answer Biden's or my question. When is Trump going to condemn the violence on both sides? When is he going to tell his supporters enough is enough and you need to stop inciting violence in my name? When? I say NEVER becasue Trump thinks the violence is a political advantage to him. He is really a monster.
 
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Simpletruther said:
Breeding a political divide is one thing, It typically doesn’t lead to rioting and murders. Both sides constantly do that, trump just upped the anti. And he has legitimate points about the media while doing it.

What’s has lead to that chaos and murdering is a false narrative that cops are gunning after blacks. This narrative has been utterly destroyed by "FBI statistics showing it to be a fake narrative.

Not only that, even liberal Washington Post’s on data base on cop killings proves the narrative is bogus.

But the narrative is exactly what is driving the chaos. You can’t blame that on trump.
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No, cops are not “gunning after blacks” in any significant numbers. But too many unarmed or subdued blacks are abused by cops who are not effectively prosecuted. Just think of the list of such incidents dating back to Rodney King. Back in the day, I was almost shot by three plainclothes cops who didn’t ID themselves, for me being Puerto Rican and a hijacker. I am neither.

Trump has not just divided us; it’s more than that. He has encouraged police to abuse suspects, and his supporters to use violence.
 
Paradoxical said:
LOL, while Trump is in office! You conveniently fail to mention the most important thing. It has NOTHING to do with Trump and is in DEMOCRAT RUN cities. People are stoopid, but not that stupid. They will vote on 11-3-20 and you guys are burnt toast
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Trump is President of tge whole country, not just the areas that voted for him. When is the last time most of these places had a Republicsn even run? So you want what? Your party clearly doesn't give a **** unless you can blame others. That's not leadership.
 
Ikari said:
One cannot just jump to black bagging, unless one is a dirty dirty fascist bastard. The fact of the matter is that Trump has shown not a single shred of leadership capability during the whole of it. And y'all just spent neigh a week defending some kid from Illinois taking gun and traveling cross state to shoot protesters.

So either this violence is unacceptable and we need to punish folk who keep killing others, or we don't. There's no R or D in that even though many partisans will try to inject it into it. Either we need to clamp down on all the violence, particularly the murder, or we don't. So I think your side needs to make up their mind.
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For one thing after NRA corruption and IDIOTS carrying firearms into conflict on the thinest of logic, the notion of the responsible gun owner has finally been blown to smithereens. Yes there are responsible gun owners. I happen to believe I am a responsible gun owner. However rampant support for the gun industry for virtually anybody buying any gun they want other than what is on the Federal Restricted list has brought us to what should have been an obvious conclusion, too many guns in the hands of complete IDIOTS, like the IDIOTS in Portland and Kenosha, in Detroit earlier this year and Austin Tx and Carson City and in Charlottesville and on and on and on. So much for the responsible gun owner.
 
Nickyjo said:
No, cops are not “gunning after blacks” in any significant numbers. But too many unarmed or subdued blacks are abused by cops who are not effectively prosecuted. Just think of the list of such incidents dating back to Rodney King. Back in the day, I was almost shot by three plainclothes cops who didn’t ID themselves, for me being Puerto Rican and a hijacker. I am neither.

Trump has not just divided us; it’s more than that. He has encouraged police to abuse suspects, and his supporters to use violence.
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“Too many” is subjective. Cops abusing whites gets ignored, because it’s a false narrative. There is an issue of too many abusive cops, but the racial aspect is overblown to the moon for political purposes. And that false narrative has caused billions in property damage and many lost lives from increased murders.

Yes, abusive cops is an issue, mostly due to unions.
 
Nickyjo said:
Democratic run cities in a republican run country. What’s your point?
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We aren't a monarchy. Trump doesn't run Seattle, Portland, Chicago, etc. Democrats/Socialists do.

Next question.
 
rocket88 said:
They will, but I'm not convinced you'll be happy about that. Remember all this is happening while Trump is in office and he's done nothing about it but tweet.
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We all know that was the democrat/leftist plan from the beginning, which is why you all supported the rioting, looting, violence and destruction... But there comes a time when you just have to give it up and take your lumps, because that plan backfired quite a while ago. The American people know exactly who's responsible and who's to blame for it all, and it isn't Donald Trump.

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Grim17 said:
We all know that was the democrat/leftist plan from the beginning, which is why you all supported the rioting, looting, violence and destruction... But there comes a time when you just have to give it up and take your lumps, because that plan backfired quite a while ago. The American people know exactly who's responsible and who's to blame for it all, and it isn't Donald Trump.

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Any intelligent person knows it's nit the Democrats. Luckily, most of those without critical thinking skills are already in Trump's camp.
 
Tigerace117 said:
I’ll certainly remember the number of Trump supporters who praised and defended the murders committed by Kyle Rittenhouse, yes.
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I have not praised that shooting. All I know is he said it was self defense. Shooting at a caravan while in hiding is not self defense.
 
iguanaman said:
and.......You did not answer Biden's or my question. When is Trump going to condemn the violence on both sides? When is he going to tell his supporters enough is enough and you need to stop inciting violence in my name? When? I say NEVER becasue Trump thinks the violence is a political advantage to him. He is really a monster.
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What violence on both sides? Where was that BEFORE Biden's gawd awful snooze fest convention?
 
rocket88 said:
Trump is President of tge whole country, not just the areas that voted for him. When is the last time most of these places had a Republicsn even run? So you want what? Your party clearly doesn't give a **** unless you can blame others. That's not leadership.
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Just to show you how wrong you are, the governor doesn't want him in Kenosha. Unlike Obama thought he was, Trump is not president of the world. The states and cities run their locales. Note that it is ONLY the Democratic states that are committing mayhem. Kinda sucks for November 3
 
Simpletruther said:
It’s truly incredible to me that you see no agenda to push that cops are killing blacks at disproportionate rates.

Have you tried googling these words?


So again, I ask, what do you think these protests and riots are about?
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I don't do conspiracy theory and I have no intellectual respect for those that do.
 
noonereal said:
I don't do conspiracy theory and I have no intellectual respect for those that do.
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Yet you have a conspiracy theory agains trump, while obvious evidence exists that a false narrative is being pushed.
This isn’t just “over covering” these incidents. Left wing talking heads are pontificating and making those claims of cops gunning after blacks in disproportionate numbers constantly, even though it’s untrue. No, that isn’t conspiracy theory, And I have no respect for someone so blind to think it is. It is obvious fact.
 
rickc said:
Trump's race war escalates
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I keep seeing "beware of Biden because this is what he'll bring!!" and then they show a photo from recent months. Those photos are where we are now and it's under Trump's watch, not Biden or anybody else.
 
noonereal said:
isolated incidents, your argument is a logical fallacy
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Yawn.

A few brainless anarchists getting shot by a wannabe cop is an "isolated incident."

One RWNJ getting shot is also an "isolated incident."
 
Paradoxical said:
I have not praised that shooting. All I know is he said it was self defense. Shooting at a caravan while in hiding is not self defense.
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The murderer trying to defend his actions doesn’t change them, no matter what some think.

There are many conservatives who have praised the Rittenhouse killings. And people notice.
 
Paradoxical said:
We aren't a monarchy. Trump doesn't run Seattle, Portland, Chicago, etc. Democrats/Socialists do.

Next question.
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He is as much responsible as any mayor. Look, Trump is blaming Biden for riots on Trump's watch. Did he blame the mayors of cities where neo-Nazis or white supremacists marched? Was the leadership of Idaho responsible for Ruby Ridge? That of Texas for the killing of US (FBI) officials in Waco? Does the maor of DC have to accept responsibility for the gassing of demonstrators in advance of Trump's bible stunt?
 
Simpletruther said:
Yet you have a conspiracy theory agains trump, while obvious evidence exists that a false narrative is being pushed.
This isn’t just “over covering” these incidents. Left wing talking heads are pontificating and making those claims of cops gunning after blacks in disproportionate numbers constantly, even though it’s untrue. No, that isn’t conspiracy theory, And I have no respect for someone so blind to think it is. It is obvious fact.
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your bias is on steroids... btw, name me one conspiracy theory i subscribe to against Trump

you are simply being a cultist, you have never read a post from me supporting idiot theories against trump

your mania should get checked out, its not healthy
 
noonereal said:
your bias is on steroids... btw, name me one conspiracy theory i subscribe to against Trump

you are simply being a cultist, you have never read a post from me supporting idiot theories against trump

your mania should get checked out, its not healthy
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And you just called the-obvious truth thst MSM pushes a false narrative a “conspiracy theory”.
 
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