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More Green New Deal: Let’s replace air travel with high-speed rail

Do you think for a second that the democratic "base" supports this crap? Maybe the nutz like Antifa, or Bernie busters, but your base is hardly this dumb, trust me I wish they were this dumb..


Tim-

I'd say about 30% of "Democratic voters" are fully on board with The New Green Deal. Probably closer to half.
 
You're dreaming buddy. :)


Tim-

I don't think so.

Bernie Sanders got what, 47% of the primary vote? I'd say it's pretty likely that most, if not all, of Sanders supporters are on board with this.
 
If the only way you can argue against something is to make **** up, you fail. You sir, fail.

Explain how you cross oceans without air travel. That leaves trains and boats.
 
I don't think so.

Bernie Sanders got what, 47% of the primary vote? I'd say it's pretty likely that most, if not all, of Sanders supporters are on board with this.

Well, I suppose you could get 30% of American's the believe anything, regardless of the topic, so maybe you're right, but this new green deal is no deal, and dead on arrival, heck, not even dead on arrival, it's dead on the mere utterance, but Nanc is ok it keeps the tippy top new congresswoman busy and out of her hair for now.. ;)


Tim-
 
Well, I suppose you could get 30% of American's the believe anything, regardless of the topic, so maybe you're right, but this new green deal is no deal, and dead on arrival, heck, not even dead on arrival, it's dead on the mere utterance, but Nanc is ok it keeps the tippy top new congresswoman busy and out of her hair for now.. ;)


Tim-

I wasn't talking about ALL Americans, I was only talking about Democratic voters. This is a problem. It means that anyone they nominate for POTUS is going to have to be on board with this stuff... or at least be a convincing enough liar to get "the base" to believe they are on board with it. If you get the majority of Dems believing in this, then sooner or later they're going to demand that the people they elect deliver on it.

Pretend for a moment that in 2026 the Democrats hold the House, Senate, and someone like Corey Booker is sitting in the White House. If socialist ideas like this have 60% or so support among Democratic voters and ZERO support among Republicans, this **** is still going to happen. It won't matter if the majority of ALL people oppose it.
 
They want 0% use of fossil fuels. Show me an electric 757.

120 years ago air travel as we know wasn’t considered possible other than by DaVinci types. Give it time.
 
120 years ago air travel as we know wasn’t considered possible other than by DaVinci types. Give it time.

Fine. When that technology becomes a reality it can compete on the market just like technology always has.
 
Fine. When that technology becomes a reality it can compete on the market just like technology always has.

Just wanted to thank you for entertaining the smart people. LMAO!
 
You think it's ok to guarantee a salary for people unwilling to work?

Hey, did you figure out where it says they want to, to quote you, "ban airplanes"? Why did you feel the need to lie? Is the truth too hard for you?
 
Show where she says "no air travel".

She means no air travel for the unwashed. The political class will still have their airplanes.

"All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others"
 
The Ocasio Obsession continues. People who say one should not take Trump’s lies or imaginations seriously take every expressive idea of hers literally and not as a start of a discussion. “Don’t you understand!!! She wants to ban all air travel!!! Why else would she promote rail!!!”

It’s really funny to watch how she drives the right crazy. And you think we on the left have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Crazy is a very poor description.

Entertaining would be accurate.

You seem to think very shallow.

I have a train ticket to the Bahama's if you want it.......FREE
 
Hey, did you figure out where it says they want to, to quote you, "ban airplanes"? Why did you feel the need to lie? Is the truth too hard for you?

What are those airplanes going to use for fuel?

U.S. Representative-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is demanding that the U.S. commit to shifting 100% of its energy consumption to renewable energy in ten years as part of a “Green New Deal” she is demanding party leaders support.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.br...ble-energy-in-10-years-in-green-new-deal/amp/
 
No, she said that air travel will be banned.

I read the resolution. Couldn't find it there. Where and in what context did she say that?
 
She means no air travel for the unwashed. The political class will still have their airplanes.

"All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others"

Nowhere does she say nor imply that. Why do you feel the need to make **** up?
 
What are those airplanes going to use for fuel?

So you cannot find where she says what you claim, so you go with making **** up. Why is this such a pattern for you? Are you that unable to counter what she actually proposed?
 
Show where she says "no air travel".

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5729035/Green-New-Deal-FAQ.pdf

. We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast, but we think we can ramp up renewable manufacturing and power production, retrofit every building in America, build the smart grid, overhaul transportation and agriculture, plant lots of trees and restore our ecosystem to get to net-zero.

and...
Totally overhaul transportation by massively expanding electric vehicle manufacturing, build charging stations everywhere, build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary, create affordable public transit available to all, with goal to replace every combustion-engine vehicle
 
They want 0% use of fossil fuels. Show me an electric 757.

But anything electric needs a charger and the charger runs on electricity which is produced by fossil fuels.

You couldn't even catch a ride on a hot air balloon because the burner runs on propane again a fossil fuel.

But if you are lucky you might be able to catch a ride on a weather balloon that is powered with helium.


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Do they know high-speed rail uses energy too? How much cost and pollution creation would be required to build rail lines that would come close to duplicating our current airways. Also I'm not taking a train - no matter HOW FAST - to Hawaii.

The left always shoot first. Sounds good? Do it. Doesn't work? Do more of it.
 
High speed rail across oceans?

No one can explain that level of crazy.

We can pay for it by increasing taxes on the wealthy. Oh. Wait minute. We were supposed to increase taxes on the wealthy and give it to the poor. Well, I guess the solution to that is increase taxes on the wealthy a second time. Then we can build high speed rails across oceans and give some to the poor too. Then we can increase taxes on the wealthy a third time to pay for Medicare For All. Then we can increase taxes on the wealthy a fourth time to give everyone free college. Oh, wait a minute. Building high speed rails across oceans will disturb the ecosystem and reefs. Can't have that. Obviously, the solution to air travel is to get rid of jetfuel engines and have all passengers pedal to provide the energy.
 
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