Montagnier

[Good4Nothin]

Actually, no , he isn't. He makes outrageous claims with zero evidence, and that was even before covid 19. THe attitude of scientists in France for example 'he made some discoverys early in his career but has since lost his way'
He makes claims that have objectively been shown to be false, yet he clings to them.

And I should believe YOU why?? Because you believe the mainstream medical authorities who are dedicated to stamping out dissent?

 

[snakestretcher]

Trust me on this; the medical profession, whatever you may imagine, have far more pressing concerns than "stamping out dissent"!

 

[Paradoxical]

They will accept any opinion as absolute fact, as long as it was stated by a mainstream authority, who belongs to the Democratic party.

They never question people like Fausti, The NY Times, WaPo, CNN, and MSNBC even though they have been caught in multiple outright lies, not to mention half-truths and indoctrination. A CNN Director admitted on tape that their sole purpose was to get Trump out of the office and they engaged in propaganda. Did you hear a peep from any of these leftists about that? Nope. The others only submit corrections months or even years after they have been caught.

 

[Paradoxical]

Montagnier is not afraid to express opinions that are at odds with the mainstream consensus. That is because he is a real SCIENTIST, not just an obedience follower of authotity.

He was one of the discoverers of HIV, and won a Nobel prize. He is an experienced virologist and his opinions should count. He said the virus came from a lab six months ago, when all the obedient scientists agreed that it came from nature.

Now he is saying the experimental mRNA vaccines may be harmful. I think we should listen. Maybe he's wrong, but he is more likely to be right than your trusted politicians and mainstream journalists.

This is the thing with society today. It is tribalized and science and the medical industry have become politicized. This is why some idiot like Fausti was allowed to remain.

 

[snakestretcher]

This is the thing with society today. It is tribalized and science and the medical industry have become politicized. This is why some idiot like Fausti was allowed to remain.

That "idiot" has more smarts in his little finger than you could possibly imagine. That's why people don't listen to you-but I understand how envious of his enormously successful career you must be.

 

[Paradoxical]

That "idiot" has more smarts in his little finger than you could possibly imagine. That's why people don't listen to you-but I understand how envious of his enormously successful career you must be.

You sure go haywire over any criticism of Fausti. Why is this?

Is it because he was dead set against stopping the Chinese to come here? Is it because he flip-flopped like a mackerel about masks? Is it because he lied about Wuhan? Is it because he makes more than any other idiot in government. Which of his many traits do you fawn over the mostest?

 

[RAMOSS]

And I should believe YOU why?? Because you believe the mainstream medical authorities who are dedicated to stamping out dissent?

It's not ME you should believe. You should learn to vet sources, and see what a persons claims are. For example, your little yoyo hero thinks magnets can cure lyme disease. What matter is 1) What are his actual claims' and 2) what is the scientific support with observational data that his claims are correct. The answer to that is 'there is no evidence his claims are correct, and in fact there is objective and tangible evidence his claims are wrong.

 

[snakestretcher]

You sure go haywire over any criticism of Fausti. Why is this?

Is it because he was dead set against stopping the Chinese to come here? Is it because he flip-flopped like a mackerel about masks? Is it because he lied about Wuhan? Is it because he makes more than any other idiot in government. Which of his many traits do you fawn over the mostest?

Well, for a start I'm an adult and call people by their proper names. The rest of your post is the usual ignorant trash, not worthy of a response.

 

[Paradoxical]

Well, for a start I'm an adult and call people by their proper names. The rest of your post is the usual ignorant trash, not worthy of a response.

Dr. Fauci is the devil incarnate. He is an evil bag of wind that lies all the time. This is why I call him FAUSTi.

Faust is the protagonist of a classic German legend, based on the historical Johann Georg Faust (c. 1480-1540).. The erudite Faust is highly successful yet dissatisfied with his life, which leads him to make a pact with the Devil at a crossroads, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasures.

He sold his soul for $420,000.00 a year, to experiment with improving the killing power of a virus, for trying to keep the Chinese coming in after he knew this came from Wuhan, for saying masks work after he insisted they didn't, for admitting he lied about what constitutes herd immunity, for being wrong about how long a vaccine would take, for using FaceBook and the DNC to cover up the Wuhan connection, for going through a third party to cover up the money he gave to China for research that could have been done here and for being, well, the devil incarnate.

 

[snakestretcher]

Dr. Fauci is the devil incarnate. He is an evil bag of wind that lies all the time. This is why I call him FAUSTi.



He sold his soul for $420,000.00 a year, to experiment with improving the killing power of a virus, for trying to keep the Chinese coming in after he knew this came from Wuhan, for saying masks work after he insisted they didn't, for admitting he lied about what constitutes herd immunity, for being wrong about how long a vaccine would take, for using FaceBook and the DNC to cover up the Wuhan connection, for going through a third party to cover up the money he gave to China for research that could have been done here and for being, well, the devil incarnate.

You're lying again. Nobody "sold his soul". You've been watching too much Carlson and Hannity, clearly.

 

[Paradoxical]

You're lying again. Nobody "sold his soul". You've been watching too much Carlson and Hannity, clearly.

Gotcha. What time is it in that third-world country you live in, by the way? I hear ole Boris is becoming quite the socialist leftist of late in shutting down businesses. Is your economy still in ruins?

 

[notquiteright]

He also thinks the vaccines are creating the new variants.

Interesting. Flu has had many variants since the the pandemic of 1918. No vaccines until recently. Might be the nature of viruses that mutation is their survival technique...

 

[Good4Nothin]

That "idiot" has more smarts in his little finger than you could possibly imagine. That's why people don't listen to you-but I understand how envious of his enormously successful career you must be.

Democrats today have become the hero worshiping conformists. They are the advocates of censorship, even totalitarianism. My how things have turned around since the 1960s.

 

[Good4Nothin]

You sure go haywire over any criticism of Fausti. Why is this?

Is it because he was dead set against stopping the Chinese to come here? Is it because he flip-flopped like a mackerel about masks? Is it because he lied about Wuhan? Is it because he makes more than any other idiot in government. Which of his many traits do you fawn over the mostest?

You are forgetting that he advocated and supported the gain of function research that may have started the pandemic. The research that was so obviously dangerous it was banned in the US for several years. No, Fauci thought the risk was worth it. And here we are. And Democrats are still worshiping him anyway.

 

[Good4Nothin]

It's not ME you should believe. You should learn to vet sources, and see what a persons claims are. For example, your little yoyo hero thinks magnets can cure lyme disease. What matter is 1) What are his actual claims' and 2) what is the scientific support with observational data that his claims are correct. The answer to that is 'there is no evidence his claims are correct, and in fact there is objective and tangible evidence his claims are wrong.

I don't know of any objective evidence that any of Montagnier's claims are wrong. You have been programmed by the mainstream medical establishment's propagandists.

 

[OlNate]

Luc Montagnier is a well known French virologist who often disagrees with the mainstream scientific establishment. Over a year ago, he said the covid virus was designed in a lab. That was considered nonsense by the mainstream until recently, but now it is considered possible.

Now Montagnier says the covid mRNA vaccines might cause neurodegenerative illness in 5 or 10 years. That, of course, is currently considered nonsense by the scientific establishment. But in 5 years, who knows?

He also thinks the vaccines are creating the new variants.

It's just his opinion, but he is an experienced virologist and his opinion should not be ignored. He says what he thinks because he is old and does not have to worry about his career. And, of course, he is not the only expert who strongly disagrees with the current official opinions on the pandemic.

Good grief, but you never fail to take every opportunity to sow misinformation and irrational fear, do you. Given that you never present an ounce of evidence, all your posts should default to the CT forum. What a ****ing joke.

 

[Paradoxical]

Democrats today have become the hero worshiping conformists. They are the advocates of censorship, even totalitarianism. My how things have turned around since the 1960s.

When the corporate and political totalitarians agree with them it is a different story. Now we have far far leftists running the DNC and the MSM doing their bidding so they can get scoops and classified information and private corporations censoring those they hate (conservatives) they are just fine with communism in America.

 

[Good4Nothin]

Interesting. Flu has had many variants since the the pandemic of 1918. No vaccines until recently. Might be the nature of viruses that mutation is their survival technique...

Yes, virus change, like any living species. I do not know why Montagnier thinks the vaccines are creating the new variants.

 

[Good4Nothin]

Dr. Fauci is the devil incarnate. He is an evil bag of wind that lies all the time. This is why I call him FAUSTi.



He sold his soul for $420,000.00 a year, to experiment with improving the killing power of a virus, for trying to keep the Chinese coming in after he knew this came from Wuhan, for saying masks work after he insisted they didn't, for admitting he lied about what constitutes herd immunity, for being wrong about how long a vaccine would take, for using FaceBook and the DNC to cover up the Wuhan connection, for going through a third party to cover up the money he gave to China for research that could have been done here and for being, well, the devil incarnate.

It is possible that Fauci means well. But I have, for a long time, felt that he is too pro-drug, and that he has too much faith in unnatural medical interventions.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Why would Republicans take this guy seriously? There's no facts or evidence backing up anything you've alleged he believes.

What is this? Trump part DEUX? Since when do Republicans need facts or evidence?

 

[Grand Mal]

Gotcha. What time is it in that third-world country you live in, by the way? I hear ole Boris is becoming quite the socialist leftist of late in shutting down businesses. Is your economy still in ruins?

Stupidest post of the day so far.
Front runner for stupidest of the week.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Well sure, mainstream conformists will try to discredit anyone who dissents in any way from their dogma.

I don't know if Montagnier is right about everything (no one is always right), but he could be right about some things. Dissenting from the mainstream doesn't automatically make you a nut. But of course that's what they want you to think.

But I know you are a devout conformist and would never listen to any other side of any controversy.

Listen to "the other side?" EVIDENCE! He has none! Why does he not submit his work to peer review? BECAUSE HE HAS NO WORK TO SUBMIT! That, by definition, makes him a crackpot.

 

[Luce]

Luc Montagnier is a well known French virologist who often disagrees with the mainstream scientific establishment. Over a year ago, he said the covid virus was designed in a lab. That was considered nonsense by the mainstream until recently, but now it is considered possible.

Now Montagnier says the covid mRNA vaccines might cause neurodegenerative illness in 5 or 10 years. That, of course, is currently considered nonsense by the scientific establishment. But in 5 years, who knows?

He also thinks the vaccines are creating the new variants.

It's just his opinion, but he is an experienced virologist and his opinion should not be ignored. He says what he thinks because he is old and does not have to worry about his career. And, of course, he is not the only expert who strongly disagrees with the current official opinions on the pandemic.

He sounds like a ****ing idiot.

 

[Mongidig]

Luc Montagnier is a well known French virologist who often disagrees with the mainstream scientific establishment. Over a year ago, he said the covid virus was designed in a lab. That was considered nonsense by the mainstream until recently, but now it is considered possible.

Now Montagnier says the covid mRNA vaccines might cause neurodegenerative illness in 5 or 10 years. That, of course, is currently considered nonsense by the scientific establishment. But in 5 years, who knows?

He also thinks the vaccines are creating the new variants.

It's just his opinion, but he is an experienced virologist and his opinion should not be ignored. He says what he thinks because he is old and does not have to worry about his career. And, of course, he is not the only expert who strongly disagrees with the current official opinions on the pandemic.

Why do you spend so much time pondering the negative side of things? I feel like you are looking for the bad and I’m sure you have no problem finding it.

Also, It‘s hard to trust these people because they are all weirdos. If these folks just chilled out a bit we might listen to them.

 

[Paradoxical]

Stupidest post of the day so far.
Front runner for stupidest of the week.

Then you shouldn’t have posted it.