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Mollie Tibbets Murder Suspect Id'd[W:31, 141, 285, 415]

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You are just afraid to be considered racist, that's wy you are dismissing his illegal alien status.

Except that he wasn't an illegal alien. You're just afraid of reality.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...student-body-found-brooklyn-trump/1064567002/

"Rivera has lived in Iowa for four to seven years, working at Yarrabee Farms, a Brooklyn-area farm owned by Eric Lang, the brother of Craig Lang, a prominent Republican.

Craig Lang has verified that Rivera is in Iowa legally, according to Richards’ motion."
 
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There are dozens upon dozens of Trump threads. THIS thread is about the Mollie Tibbets murder suspect.

Stick to the topic or move along.

NOW you care about staying on topic. :lol:

He was here legally. So what are cons going to gripe about now?
 
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You can try to spin it all you like Jack...but the bottom line is, you ....and people like you....are seeking to capitalize and exploit this woman's death in order to make an argument regarding immigration. That is just sick. Her death is a tragedy and deserves to be treated as such. Her death is not yours to exploit.

As you wish. I can see you're looking for ideological battle and that's not of interest to me. In fact, I favor very liberal immigration; immigrants built this country. But that has nothing to do with this tragedy. It's a simple fact that Mollie Tibbets is dead because our laws were not enforced.
 
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It tells me that people are growing tired of hearing excuses and justifications for crimes that would not be happening if our laws were enforced. Just got done watching the much televised funeral of officer Jobbers Miller last week. It took him a week to die after being shot in the head with his own gun. The shooter was another illegal alien who was in and out of jail constantly over the last decade. Had the law been enforced, Officer Miller would still be on duty, protecting his community today.


Or he could have been shot by a legal immigrant, citizen, tourist....
 
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Except that he wasn't an illegal alien. You're just afraid of reality.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...student-body-found-brooklyn-trump/1064567002/

"Rivera has lived in Iowa for four to seven years, working at Yarrabee Farms, a Brooklyn-area farm owned by Eric Lang, the brother of Craig Lang, a prominent Republican.

Craig Lang has verified that Rivera is in Iowa legally, according to Richards’ motion."

The facts will come out, and we'll see. This employer has every reason to claim he thought Rivera was legal.
 
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It was the police and prosecutors who claimed Rivera is an illegal alien and claimed to have verified it.

Just because Rivera passed e-verify does not mean he is here legally.
Time will tell, and yes, we need clarification.

"At a press conference announcing the arrest of Cristhian Bahena Rivera on Tuesday, police said Rivera was an “illegal alien,” saying they confirmed his status with the Department of Homeland Security Investigations. The federal government put an immigration detainer on Rivera to ensure he was not released from custody/"

https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/cristhian-bahena-rivera-legal-illegal-undocumented/

"In addition to the first-degree murder charge, he is being held on a federal immigration detainer."

https://abc7.com/mollie-tibbetts-family-releases-statement/4018080/
 
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This is a terrible crime......Still it appears clowns like this jackass Senator want to exploit it to push their own personal agenda....Pathetic

And the Left loves to exploit dead kids to take away guns.
 
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Not even headlining on any of the MSM sites. CNN, careful to not hurt any feelings, refers to this scumbag as an "undocumented immigrant".

Well considering two scumbags have either been convicted or plead guilty to felonies (one campaign finance that could blow up on Trump) I can see how many stories have been pushed back... the Presidency is threatened and that's a pretty big deal (you'd be screaming it from the rooftops if it was Obama)

Apparently so has the 'sanctuary' farm he hid on for at least 4 years- it belongs to a GOP political heavy weight- seems to be missing as well...

Convictions that threaten the Presidency vs a Trumper deflection rant....

I know what I consider front page news.... :peace
 
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NOW you care about staying on topic. :lol:

He was here legally. So what are cons going to gripe about now?

He was? Virtually every media outlet is currently reporting his status as ILLegal. You should probably get on the horn and set them all straight.
 
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Oh puh-lease....you guys couldn't wait to exploit her death as soon as you found that it fit your political agenda. Its sick seeing how the right-wing is using this tragedy to further their beliefs.

And some on YOUR side like to exploit dead kids to take away people's gun rights.
 
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As you wish. I can see you're looking for ideological battle and that's not of interest to me. In fact, I favor very liberal immigration; immigrants built this country. But that has nothing to do with this tragedy. It's a simple fact that Mollie Tibbets is dead because our laws were not enforced.

More 'nativist' bull... people are deported everyday, our laws are enforced, but no system is perfect. Our 'gun' laws aren't enforced if you really want o play silly rhetorical games. Our drinking and driving laws aren't enforced if you want to continue.

How many Manafort's are out there committing massive fraud but not in the political spotlight?

Time to be realistic.... :peace
 
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He was? Virtually every media outlet is currently reporting his status as ILLegal. You should probably get on the horn and set them all straight.

Maybe you should. I reference the court documents. Sorry if the truth bothers you and derails the crux of your thread's narrative.

Perhaps you should just be more diligent when you start a thread?
 
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Maybe you should. I reference the court documents. Sorry if the truth bothers you and derails the crux of your thread's narrative.

Perhaps you should just be more diligent when you start a thread?

in other words, he found a way around e-verify?
 
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It was the police and prosecutors who claimed Rivera is an illegal alien and claimed to have verified it.

Just because Rivera passed e-verify does not mean he is here legally.
Time will tell, and yes, we need clarification.

"At a press conference announcing the arrest of Cristhian Bahena Rivera on Tuesday, police said Rivera was an “illegal alien,” saying they confirmed his status with the Department of Homeland Security Investigations. The federal government put an immigration detainer on Rivera to ensure he was not released from custody/"

https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/cristhian-bahena-rivera-legal-illegal-undocumented/

"In addition to the first-degree murder charge, he is being held on a federal immigration detainer."

https://abc7.com/mollie-tibbetts-family-releases-statement/4018080/

The latest report I read is Rivera who is 24 years old had been living in the area for at least 7 years. When you do the simple math he arrived in the area, a minor, 17 years of age. Who knows where he was living before then. Was he part of the DACA kids?
 
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Um, did you muss the link I posted? The guy isnt illegally in the US...

The link you provided? The one that says this...

The government is incorrectly promoting the idea that Rivera is not in Iowa legally, attorney Allen Richards of Tama said in a court document asking for a gag order in the case.

So the guys attorney says he is here legally.

Rivera has lived in Iowa for four to seven years, working at Yarrabee Farms, a Brooklyn-area farm owned by Eric Lang, the brother of Craig Lang, a prominent Republican.

Craig Lang has verified that Rivera is in Iowa legally, according to Richards’ motion.

And Craig Lang, who's brother employed him says he is here legally.

“What we based everything off of as far as saying he is an illegal alien is we worked with Homeland Security Investigations and they have him as an illegal alien,”

But Homeland Security says he is here ILLegally. And you call that proof? Really?

Furthermore, it would appear that his employer also lied about him being vetted by e-verify and then retracted once found out...

Yarrabee Farms, Rivera’s employer, issued a statement Tuesday night saying Rivera was vetted through the government's E-Verify system. However, a government archive does not indicate the Brooklyn, Iowa, farm as a participating member of the system.

On Wednesday, however, officials from the farm retracted the statement and acknowledged they did not use the E-Verify system.

Your source doesn't seem to back up what you are claiming.
 
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The link you provided? The one that says this...



So the guys attorney says he is here legally.



And Craig Lang, who's brother employed him says he is here legally.



But Homeland Security says he is here ILLegally. And you call that proof? Really?

Furthermore, it would appear that his employer also lied about him being vetted by e-verify and then retracted once found out...



Your source doesn't seem to back up what you are claiming.


Ouch. Nice body slam.
 
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The link you provided? The one that says this...



So the guys attorney says he is here legally.



And Craig Lang, who's brother employed him says he is here legally.



But Homeland Security says he is here ILLegally. And you call that proof? Really?

Furthermore, it would appear that his employer also lied about him being vetted by e-verify and then retracted once found out...



Your source doesn't seem to back up what you are claiming.

Actually, they said he has a detainer...even legal immigrants receive detainers when they commit a felony. If both are saying he is legal, let them show their proof...its not like DHS has not made bad habit of accidentally detaining legal immigrants and citizens claiming they were illegal
 
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More 'nativist' bull... people are deported everyday, our laws are enforced, but no system is perfect. Our 'gun' laws aren't enforced if you really want o play silly rhetorical games. Our drinking and driving laws aren't enforced if you want to continue.

How many Manafort's are out there committing massive fraud but not in the political spotlight?

Time to be realistic.... :peace

So, basically, meh, win some, lose some.
 
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More 'nativist' bull... people are deported everyday, our laws are enforced, but no system is perfect. Our 'gun' laws aren't enforced if you really want o play silly rhetorical games. Our drinking and driving laws aren't enforced if you want to continue.

How many Manafort's are out there committing massive fraud but not in the political spotlight?

Time to be realistic.... :peace

There is a difference between being realistic and surrendering to chaos. You are correct that evasions of gun laws and drunk driving laws also take lives. That is no defense against the observation that failure to enforce immigration law cost Molly Tibbets her life.
 
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If Mollie Tibbets was black and had been murdered by a white, preferably southern, dude, it would be front page news.

Not yesterday.... except on Fox, as there whole MO as of late is to throw the tennis ball into the woods so their viewers don't actually see the real news.
 
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How can they claim unbiased research when there is no official data?

I provided an extensive amount of material to support the assertion that illegal aliens commit fewer crimes than US citizens. The document refers to multiple pieces of research with an rather extensive bibliography. The answer to your question is within that document.
 
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