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Mo Brooks exposes Corruption in American politics

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"I'm sure that you are very much concerned about why our Congress is so unresponsive to the regular needs of the American citizens, why some of these policies that come out are so bizarre, so unfair, so skewered against regular Jane and Joe Citizen. The reason is simple. Special interest groups run Washington, and I don't mean that metaphorically. I mean literally. Now, here is how it happens. In the House of Representatives -- I use that as an example because that's where I work. If you want to be chairman of a major committee, you have to purchase it."

"And the purchase price for a major committee, say like Ways and Means, minimum bid is a million dollars. And I'm talking literally here. I'm not talking metaphorically."


... It gets worse as he speaks.

 
"I'm sure that you are very much concerned about why our Congress is so unresponsive to the regular needs of the American citizens, why some of these policies that come out are so bizarre, so unfair, so skewered against regular Jane and Joe Citizen. The reason is simple. Special interest groups run Washington, and I don't mean that metaphorically. I mean literally. Now, here is how it happens. In the House of Representatives -- I use that as an example because that's where I work. If you want to be chairman of a major committee, you have to purchase it."

"And the purchase price for a major committee, say like Ways and Means, minimum bid is a million dollars. And I'm talking literally here. I'm not talking metaphorically."


... It gets worse as he speaks.


NOPE--The reason is simple: we vote these guys in
 
I thought this was going to be a red-brown alliance type post. Shame
 
Mo Brooks is a loon.
 
NOPE--The reason is simple: we vote these guys in
With no offense, that's a very naive comment, and hurts the situation more than it helps.

Being elected takes some things. Our system is not one where a half million people say 'hey, I know our neighbor and they're a good person, I'll vote for them'.

Our system is one that involves a lot of people with a lot of money who want things and their being allowed to use that money to get who they want elected.

Blaming the voters is a big mistake and won't fix anything. What is a voter who just sees media supposed to do? These powerful interests have turned out system into a machine where politicians do as they say to keep the money coming and spend half their time fundraising. Voters aren't going to just 'vote better' as the solution.

I could speculate about things that might help but not much is likely and first there's just pointing out that expecting voters to vote better is likely to be just what they want, because it won't fix it.
 
It's surprising seeing that politician say so much truth so bluntly - but he did. I sort of expect a system with so many people and so much corruption to have some truthtelling, but it's kind of weird how this admission came out, but good. It's too bad it won't get a lot more attention. And that more voters don't give a crap and vote for the only group that really opposes the corruption, progressives.
 

Mo Brooks exposes Corruption in American politics​


What did Mo do....pull down his pants again?

Paying for committee assignments is older than I am and I am old as dirt.
 
With no offense, that's a very naive comment, and hurts the situation more than it helps.

Being elected takes some things. Our system is not one where a half million people say 'hey, I know our neighbor and they're a good person, I'll vote for them'.

Our system is one that involves a lot of people with a lot of money who want things and their being allowed to use that money to get who they want elected.
In eality, yes, that works. But individuals vote, not corporations. WE are responsible for who is in office.
Blaming the voters is a big mistake and won't fix anything. What is a voter who just sees media supposed to do? These powerful interests have turned out system into a machine where politicians do as they say to keep the money coming and spend half their time fundraising. Voters aren't going to just 'vote better' as the solution.
That voter who just "sees media" should give two hoots and go a tad beyond that in his involvement----if not, then they get exactly what they deserve. Will it "solve" anything?? No. But I am just arguing here. The fault lies with the person in the mirror-----and the cure doers too, Just takes one leader to rally
 
"I'm sure that you are very much concerned about why our Congress is so unresponsive to the regular needs of the American citizens, why some of these policies that come out are so bizarre, so unfair, so skewered against regular Jane and Joe Citizen. The reason is simple. Special interest groups run Washington, and I don't mean that metaphorically. I mean literally. Now, here is how it happens. In the House of Representatives -- I use that as an example because that's where I work. If you want to be chairman of a major committee, you have to purchase it."

"And the purchase price for a major committee, say like Ways and Means, minimum bid is a million dollars. And I'm talking literally here. I'm not talking metaphorically."


... It gets worse as he speaks.



Saying that there is corruption in Washington DC is like saying there is water in the ocean.

If anyone hasn't figured it out yet, they're NEVER going to get it.

During the last 20 or so years, the lying thieves have stolen 37 TRILLION DOLLARS.

That's just got to impress anyone. Neither party is more or less responsible than the other. They are working together and cooperating to steal us blind.

They are all lying thieves and all working hard to distract us saying someone else is responsible for the theft that goes on every day and NEVER ENDS.
 
In eality, yes, that works. But individuals vote, not corporations. WE are responsible for who is in office.

But saying that does nothing to address how nearly impossible it is for someone to get elected by the public just magically identifying a 'good candidate' outside of the system we've created of expensive campaigns. A few can be, but it would take a majority. It's amazing we even have the hundred progressives we do.

The problem was made pretty clear in California when we had a special election for governor to fill it after a special interest campaign got the governor recalled for not supporting a corrupt Enron deal. There were over 100 people who ran. Who did the state pick? Arnold Schwarzeneggar, with his name recognition, who could go on Jay Leno's Tonight Show. He was a terrible governor. How would one of those hundred get voters to say 'vote for that one'?

That voter who just "sees media" should give two hoots and go a tad beyond that in his involvement----if not, then they get exactly what they deserve. Will it "solve" anything?? No. But I am just arguing here. The fault lies with the person in the mirror-----and the cure doers too, Just takes one leader to rally

We have created a corrupted system and not a solution. You can blame the voters, but does that fix it? No, it leaves you with a mass of citizens dissatisfied with our system, not caring about the democracy that brings them corruption, easy to get angry and supporting anything - like an imbecile saying he's against the system and will 'drain the swamp', con man trump and hundreds of members of Congress who support him to win elections.

You might think we should try to fix the system, and that's where the corrupt gaining control of the Supreme Court to make the corruption into protected constitutional rights pays off for them. What are you going to do to that? Have a 'revolution'? That's nuts - and even a peaceful responsible political revolution is what Bernie tried, and voters were too scared to vote for him, twice as he faced things like a media blackout.

Are you getting my point? Let's say voters agree with you. Then look at how trump was able to win running on a PHONY version of what you say - portraying himself as the 'outsider' who would clean up government and how the billions in free publicity he got helped him fool much of the country. How money lets phony 'fixers' beat real ones by paying for their publicity and attack ads.

That's how you got the country supporting Bernie's policies, but not electing him. We're just trying to prevent it getting even worse - as the Republican Party tried to overthrow democracy and is still trying to, much less get voters to somehow 'vote better'. We have allowed the system to be corrupted by money, and need big reforms it's hard to find anyone even talking about. We can't even pass things like anti-racism in voting.

It seems that perhaps 40% of voters are totally vulnerable to the right-wing media messaging. If your request for voters to do better would happen, wouldn't the Republican Party now be gone, after trump and most Republicans supporting a coup and the other corruption? And yet they're very likely to take control of at least the House from Democrats and Biden is sitting with low approval ratings.

The good news is that it isn't higher than that 40%, and Biden was able to eek out a win and Democrats a razor thin majority, in a backlash to trump with disasters like Covid and an economic crash hurting Republicans. That isn't much.

I've had an idea to try to get publicity for candidates who don't take the corrupt money - but I didn't even get a reply from a 'democracy advocate' when I e-mailed them about it, Lawrence Lessig. For now we're battling between voters who do try to 'vote better' and the power of money just trying to keep democracy at all as it is under great attack.

The country should be shocked by the fact that hundreds in Congress voted AGAINST accepting the legitimate election results in 2020 - a direct attempt to overthrow democracy - for totally corrupt reasons that were lies. And yet, there's really not that much reaction. Just a 1/6 commission who will report what happened in detail at some point.

And that's just one incident apart from the ongoing corruption with billions of dollars running the system. Rome wasn't able to keep their democracy; China is at war with the idea. Hong wasn't that different from us except they had nearly 100% fighting for their democratic rights - and lost. We have a big challenge just trying to keep Americans supporting democracy, incredibly.
 
But saying that does nothing to address how nearly impossible it is for someone to get elected by the public just magically identifying a 'good candidate' outside of the system we've created of expensive campaigns. A few can be, but it would take a majority. It's amazing we even have the hundred progressives we do.

The problem was made pretty clear in California when we had a special election for governor to fill it after a special interest campaign got the governor recalled for not supporting a corrupt Enron deal. There were over 100 people who ran. Who did the state pick? Arnold Schwarzeneggar, with his name recognition, who could go on Jay Leno's Tonight Show. He was a terrible governor. How would one of those hundred get voters to say 'vote for that one'?
THE ANSWER MIGHT BE AN EDUCATIONAL ONE. HOW ELSE TO GET PEOPLE UNPERSUADED BY SIMPLE MEDIA....
bout the democracy that brings them corruption, easy to get angry and supporting anything - like an imbecile saying he's against the system and will 'drain the swamp', con man trump and hundreds of members of Congress who support him to win elections.
YEP-------THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY DIES. IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG (200 YEARS) SINCE THE STRUGGLE TO CREATE AMERICA. IT FEELS LIKE THE 4TH GENERATION FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS THAT OFTEN CAN'T SURVIVE BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE NONE OF THE SPUNK & GRIT OF THE FOUNDER...........WE FORGET HOW/WHY WE ARE HERE.....
SOME VOTERS, YES. WHY IS IT THAT MANY VOTERS GET BEYOND THE MEDIA'S INFLUENCE???
SAME QUESTION----WHY THAT 40% ??
I agree with you, but I don't have an answer beyond a massive education push on dealing with media BS
 
But saying that does nothing to address how nearly impossible it is for someone to get elected by the public just magically identifying a 'good candidate' outside of the system we've created of expensive campaigns. A few can be, but it would take a majority. It's amazing we even have the hundred progressives we do.

The problem was made pretty clear in California when we had a special election for governor to fill it after a special interest campaign got the governor recalled for not supporting a corrupt Enron deal. There were over 100 people who ran. Who did the state pick? Arnold Schwarzeneggar, with his name recognition, who could go on Jay Leno's Tonight Show. He was a terrible governor. How would one of those hundred get voters to say 'vote for that one'?



We have created a corrupted system and not a solution. You can blame the voters, but does that fix it? No, it leaves you with a mass of citizens dissatisfied with our system, not caring about the democracy that brings them corruption, easy to get angry and supporting anything - like an imbecile saying he's against the system and will 'drain the swamp', con man trump and hundreds of members of Congress who support him to win elections.

I also think you're not getting the full equation. Right-wingers not only accept corruption, but promote it and want to leverage it to their benefit. That has ALWAYS been the case. There is not a single right-winger who thinks that a level playing field would benefit them.

This is also why so-called 'moderate' Republicans wink, nod, and turn a blind eye to voter suppression. @cpwill :)
 
Earth to Mo Brooks (though this is something I am sure he knows) every single committee seat on the major committees of congress are auctioned off, not just the Chairmanships. In fact I am not sure that there is a committee insignificant enough to have a seat offered without money changing hands, both sides of the aisle.
 
I agree with you, but I don't have an answer beyond a massive education push on dealing with media BS
A first thing is just to acknowledge the problem, as you just did. Education can be an important help - which is a big reason the right has opposed education for people, because it makes them more likely to stand up oppression. The right has a very un-American vision for the country, of a people who are subjugated and ignorant and have no idea they are - in many ways like China.
 
Still, I can't complain if he accidentally does something that doesn't suck.

I don't believe him about anything, for starters. Secondly, if someone like Mo Brooks does something that looks right, there's a bad reason behind it.
 
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