Fledermaus
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1- the clip is english with French voiceover
2- you clearly didn't make it more than 5 seconds into the clip
3- you present audio/ video demand the audio, you get it from your own supplied link and still insist on shifting goal posts.
Pathetic.
1- the clip is english with French voiceover
2- you clearly didn't make it more than 5 seconds into the clip
3- you present audio/ video demand the audio, you get it from your own supplied link and still insist on shifting goal posts.
Pathetic.
No, you can hear both... regardless... Fled submitted the audio he's been whining about for so long.I actually watched it BM,
Doesn't the voice over override the English?
Makes it hard to hear what the prof is saying.
I actually watched it BM,
Doesn't the voice over override the English?
Makes it hard to hear what the prof is saying.
No, you can hear both... regardless... Fled submitted the audio he's been whining about for so long.
No, you can hear both... regardless... Fled submitted the audio he's been whining about for so long.
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Do you or Koko want to provide the English transcript.
If not, who is embarrassed?
WOW, good observation, I must have missed that.
I understood the english perfectly fine, and he premises exactly what I claimed.
You are right he even put it up then whines that I didnt. Same identical experiment. That is the only material thing the prof said for that demonstration, the french speaker is the narrator giving the narrators opinion which is not what the OP is about.
Good catch man, Its amazing how disingenuous and fraudulent the debunkings has become now days.
Ya, the English is pretty clear. It's the same video.
There can be no real discussion with these fakes, I've been checking in and out for the past couple weeks, and the level of the manipulation has even stepped it up another notch.
it doesn't even matter what is said, the experiment shows.
If these were honest people, they would address that the model is a gross oversimplification.
Could point out that if the truss system let go of the columns the building would have slid down the columns until the topple effect was seen... and there would have been a delay as the loads shifted and balance was lost.
we give them too much credence by even acknowledging the asinine things they say... I've yet to see them address a point in an honest fashion, at least been months.
WOW, good observation, I must have missed that.
I understood the english perfectly fine, and he premises exactly what I claimed.
You are right he even put it up then whines that I didnt. Same identical experiment. That is the only material thing the prof said for that demonstration, the french speaker is the narrator giving the narrators opinion which is not what the OP is about.
Good catch man, Its amazing how disingenuous and fraudulent the debunkings has become now days.
Are you saying one of us should have reported fled for posting that link?
MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC does not Collapse into its own Footprint
They simply tip over as we can see here:
Prof Kausel demonstrates buckling columns when spoorted along their length and unsupported along their length, and I am sure without realizing also proves that buckling columns tip over and do not fail straight down into the path of most resistance.
The debunkers claim that the columns were overloaded and buckled which as we can see causes the block to tip and it does not fall into the greatest path of resistance but instead, as expected, it tips and falls over as that is the path of least resistance.
Neither have debunkers shown how asymmetrical damage can cause symmetrical failure.
Other debunkers claim that the columns all somehow (by some unaccounted unknown force) became misaligned claiming that the joints are not strong enough to keep them aligned despite there was no known force to misalign so many columns but in all cases have not supported any of it with evidence.
So debunkers have contradictory theories both of which appear to be patently imagined on its face, however they deserve the benefit of a doubt and the opportunity to prove either or both theories.
That said Truthers would like to examine the 'evidence' debunkers have to support either or both of these claims and that would reasonably result in a tower falling into its own footprint.
Thats part 1.
Part 2 is if the floors collapsed they would simply break the connections all the way down that attached them to the columns both core and perimeter. The breaking connections if by overloading since they are cantilever mounted would tend to pull the perimeter inward, yet we see the perimeter columns being ejected several hundred feet when both the core and the columns are connected tubes and should have stayed connected and standing.
To the debunkers who would do anything and everything in their power to derail the points to be discussed in the OP, as they did in the previous thread with their red herring trash arguments even after being told its intended meaning, the following definitions apply to this thread, the terms:
"In its own footprint" is defined as "did not tip over" and are not subject of or to this debate
"Straight down" is defined as "did not tip over" and are not subject of or to this debate
Any attempts to derail this thread with frivolous red herrings as was done in the previous thread will be reported.
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Why? You ignored it all this time.
fled how many times are you going to continue to deny the GLARING obvious?
Its in the OP
this pretense is really getting old man.
I dint see it, but since it has the audio you have been whining about and YOU POSTED IT I prefer using it as a prime example proving how fake debunking has become.
Audio....
Since you are known to misrepresent videos.
I don't do French.
Thats a LIE, its a false claim that you post, which I could perceive as libel, and we went through this before here:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...s-presents-plane-v-pole-2.html#post1064412350
where I proved you are posting LIES and your claim went down in the flames it deserved.
You have not posted anything what so ever showing I materially misrepresented ANY clip.
Audio please...
You were proven to misrepresent videos...
Are you saying one of us should have reported fled for posting that link?
Is that the vid you captured part of and used?
did you watch and compare it?
spam 1 on your part.
Is it the same vid, yes or no?
fled how many times are you going to continue to deny the GLARING obvious?
Its in the OP
this pretense is really getting old man.
well its your lucky day, I found the clip in english and it demonstrates precisely what I said it demonstrates in the OP LMAO.
Not that it matter to those who continue to lie about me.
lemme try that again
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