- May 28, 2010
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I wasn't aware a state could supercede a federal law?
Well then why is it in my industry (aquaculture) the feds pass a mandate and the states have to comply?
You do realize if what you say it true the feds have ways to force compilation right? I.e. highway speed limits if not in compilation the states lose funding.
This is better late then never, but Missouri voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Health Care Freedom Act. The act nullifies the federal health care reform act. Missourians voted 71% in favor of the Health Care Freedom Act, which is a major win.
Can we get our FEMA money back?
I wasn't aware a state could supercede a federal law?
What does FEMA have to do with Missouri nullifying the health care reform?
They want to go it alone... let 'em. Just like the guy whose house burnt down.
Don't call us if you get flooded or the poverty in your cities gets out of control...
1.330. 1. No law or rule shall compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system.
2. A person or employer may pay directly for lawful health care services and shall not be required by law or rule to pay penalties or fines for paying directly for lawful health care services. A health care provider may accept direct payment for lawful health care services and shall not be required by law or rule to pay penalties or fines for accepting direct payment from a person or employer for lawful health care services.
3. Subject to reasonable and necessary rules that do not substantially limit a person's options, the purchase or sale of health insurance in private health care systems shall not be prohibited by law or rule.
4. This section does not:
(1) Affect which health care services a health care provider or hospital is required to perform or provide;
(2) Affect which health care services are permitted by law;
(3) Prohibit care provided under workers' compensation as provided under state law;
(4) Affect laws or regulations in effect as of January 1, 2010;
(5) Affect the terms or conditions of any health care system to the extent that those terms and conditions do not have the effect of punishing a person or employer for paying directly for lawful health care services or a health care provider or hospital for accepting direct payment from a person or employer for lawful health care services.
5. As used in this section, the following terms shall mean:
(1) "Compel", any penalties or fines;
(2) "Direct payment or pay directly", payment for lawful health care services without a public or private third party, not including an employer, paying for any portion of the service;
(3) "Health care system", any public or private entity whose function or purpose is the management of, processing of, enrollment of individuals for or payment for, in full or in part, health care services or health care data or health care information for its participants;
(4) "Lawful health care services", any health-related service or treatment to the extent that the service or treatment is permitted or not prohibited by law or regulation that may be provided by persons or businesses otherwise permitted to offer such services; and
(5) "Penalties or fines", any civil or criminal penalty or fine, tax, salary or wage withholding or surcharge or any named fee with a similar effect established by law or rule by a government established, created or controlled agency that is used to punish or discourage the exercise of rights protected under this section.
375.1175. 1. The director may petition the court for an order directing him to liquidate a domestic insurer or an alien insurer domiciled in this state on the basis:
(1) Of any ground for an order of rehabilitation as specified in section 375.1165, whether or not there has been a prior order directing the rehabilitation of the insurer;
(2) That the insurer is insolvent;
(3) That the insurer is in such condition that the further transaction of business would be hazardous, financially or otherwise, to its policyholders, its creditors or the public;
(4) That the insurer is found to be in such condition after examination that it could not meet the requirements for incorporation and authorization specified in the law under which it was incorporated or is doing business; or
(5) That the insurer has ceased to transact the business of insurance for a period of one year.
2. Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, a domestic insurer organized as a stock insurance company may voluntarily dissolve and liquidate as a corporation under sections 351.462 to 351.482, provided that:
(1) The director, in his or her sole discretion, approves the articles of dissolution prior to filing such articles with the secretary of state. In determining whether to approve or disapprove the articles of dissolution, the director shall consider, among other factors, whether:
(a) The insurer's annual financial statements filed with the director show no written insurance premiums for five years; and
(b) The insurer has demonstrated that all policyholder claims have been satisfied or have been transferred to another insurer in a transaction approved by the director; and
(c) An examination of the insurer pursuant to sections 374.202 to 374.207 has been completed within the last five years; and
(2) The domestic insurer files with the secretary of state a copy of the director's approval, certified by the director, along with articles of dissolution as provided in section 351.462 or 351.468.
Yes, because we all know that FEMA =/= Health Care Reform. :roll: You do realize that FEMA is paid for from income and excise taxes that all people pay in, including Missourians?
Oh, so that big Gov is okay... Got it.
And can we get the $$4,246,967,208 in stimulus dollars back?? That's billion with a B.
Federal law is only valid on federal property since the federal government lacks the power to pass laws that affect the states within state borders.
So, why is the FBI always getting all touchy about kidnapping. I mean, as long as it's not on Federal property, what's it too them?
And I guess the IRS can't touch me unless I'm in a National Park or in a Federal Building... what a relief...
And I guess illegal immigration is only really illegal... where? Not in the state of Arizona, because the Fed can't pass laws there.
Got anything to say about the topic at hand or are you going to make invalid comparisons all the time?
If you don't understand the comparison, you don't understand the health care bill.
I know you've probably memorized the Fox News/Rush L talking points, but do you really understand what the bill is trying to do in terms of reducing costs?
The FBI only gets involved in kidnappings that cross state lines.
The IRS I have no comment on, since I wasn't alive when it was enacted and enforced.
Do you have anything that relates to the topic at hand or are you going to sit there pulling crap out of your butt?
WRONG - the FBI investigates child abductions. CARD teams are deployed for high profile cases.
The FBI also investigates violent gangs, car theft, art theft, and other state crimes in certain circumstances.
And you weren't alive when the Bill of Rights was enacted. So, no free speech for you...
I'm just poking fun at your total lack of knowledge about what Federal law covers....
The federal law oversteps federal authority. I hate Fox News and Rush. In fact, I hate talking heads because they have an agenda and only tell you parts of what you want to hear. However, your examples have no bearing on Missouri nullifying the health care reform. Stick to the topic of Missouri passing the Health Care Freedom Act.
Why? Do they want freedom from federal law?
Do they want to go it alone? Or do they just want to pick and choose which federal laws they follow?
Sounds like the Missouri state legislature is kind of an embarrassment--in terms of intelligence.