Peter Dow
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CBS News - broadcast February 1, 2007
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Iraq: Propaganda WAR
OK folks where is says "wrote:" in these quotes I mean "said:" - but you knew that!
Right well we’ll need to take all such terrorist enemy TV stations off the air, those that incite Sunni terrorists like this Al-Zawraa and also any equivalent stations which incite the Shiite terrorists, hosted I guess either in Iraq or Iran.
That should be obvious but actually it does need to be said, repeatedly, because the American-led coalition bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq has foolishly neglected to act against enemy propagandists.
I spotted this foolishness early after the toppling of Saddam’s regime and I warned on my website then that our forces were “Lions led by donkeys” when Saddam’s propaganda minister - Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf – "Comical Ali", remember him? - was excused and allowed to go free.
Enemy propagandists are not “comical” they are lethal. I don’t see anything comical in the killing of American, British and other coalition soldiers and civilians which those propagandists are inciting.
Our brave lions are being carried home dead in body-bags and coffins because our donkey military leaders have not seen fit yet to eliminate enemy propagandists and their high-tech tools of terror.
Although one cannot sensibly bomb “the internet” as such, the US military certainly can and should blast to bits any satellite in space which is broadcasting terror TV and the most effective enemy war propaganda.
In principle, it is easy to do because we know where the satellites are and we can hit them with no risk of collateral damage to civilians. Taking out an enemy satellite is a no-brainer.
There are only a limited number of countries (in collaboration with commercial companies perhaps) who can produce, launch into space and control these satellites and when we decide to take out satellites broadcasting enemy propaganda we are quickly going to find out who is really behind this terrorist war that is being waged against us. Then we'll see who is with us, and who is against us.
Some of the countries who can launch a satellite are also nuclear-weapon states, so depending on who our enemy is here, we need to be prepared for the threat of dramatic escalation of this war to the most extreme forms of warfare. Well it would be interesting to discover what an internet search will reveal in the case of the Al-Zawraa satellite? Who owns it? Who launched it?
I don’t know yet who exactly will lose out if we destroy their enemy propaganda satellites but I do know that we won't win in Iraq until we do muffle this sort of dangerous, evil propaganda.
So long as some idiot in the pentagon or wherever is commanding the military NOT to take these enemy satellites out, then it will remain a no-win scenario and a quagmire in Iraq.
In addition, if we have intelligence of the exact location of enemy propagandists at work then we can hit them with missiles, with a bit of luck, though there are risks of collateral damage and it means escalating the war in Iraq beyond Iraq’s borders - into Syria in the case of Al-Zarwaa TV but it could be other countries for other enemy TV stations being received in Iraq which are inciting further violence and chaos.
OK instead of just having our soldiers being killed on the roads of Iraq and getting stuck in a quagmire of a war, I am suggesting a more intelligent way to win this war by eliminating the most dangerous enemy propaganda.
Escalate the war with missile strikes into Syria and into space!
View Video of the CBS News report.
Iraq: Propaganda WAR
OK folks where is says "wrote:" in these quotes I mean "said:" - but you knew that!
Katie Couric said:The heavy fighting may be going on inside Iraq but Syria has become a major front in the propaganda war and the weapon of choice - television. Elizabeth Palmer has our exclusive report from Damascus.
Elizabeth Palmer said:The open desert along Syria’s border with Iraq is the only thing that lies between many young middle-eastern men and their dream of joining the jihad against American forces just miles away.
One of the most powerful calls to arms is Al-Zawraa TV. Banned in Iraq but beamed across the region on satellite, it’s hard core anti-American propaganda.
Al-Zawraa is run from Damascus by the former Saddam loyalist and Sunni member of Iraq’s parliament Mishaan Al Jabouri.
Do you think that you and your channel are part of the resistance?
Mishaan Al Jabouri said:Yes.
Elizabeth Palmer said:What we call in the west “the Sunni resistance” - are you part of the Sunni resistance?
Mishaan Al Jabour said:Yes we are, exactly. This is our position.
Elizabeth Palmer said:Al-Zawraa broadcasts video filmed by insurgents of American soldiers in their sights and under attack.
Why do you show the American soldiers being killed?

Mishaan Al Jabouri said:Because we like to ask him to leave our country, why he come to my country?
Elizabeth Palmer said:Emails pour to Al-Zawraa from would-be fighters.
What about “Sniper the lion Ahmmed”?
Mishaan Al Jabouri said:Age 26. His job - student.
Elizabeth Palmer said:He and thousands like him not only want to fight Americans but also the Sunni’s other arch enemy Iraq’s Shiite militias. Al Zawraa shows them looting and taking heroine. It also mocks their revered leader Moqtada Al Sadr by blackening his teeth.
Mishaan Al Jabouri said:We think that Moqtada Sadr is one crazy man. He is blood man. He is killing man.
Peter Dow comments -Elizabeth Palmer said:Mishaan Al Jabouri himself is a wanted man, not only for inciting violence in Iraq but for stealing millions of dollars ear-marked for Iraqi oil-pipeline security. It’s a charge he denies.
So far the Iraqi government hasn’t caught up with Jabouri living comfortably in the open in Syria. As open as the border young Jihadis cross on their way to fuel the chaos in Iraq.
Elizabeth Palmer, CBS News, Damascus.
Right well we’ll need to take all such terrorist enemy TV stations off the air, those that incite Sunni terrorists like this Al-Zawraa and also any equivalent stations which incite the Shiite terrorists, hosted I guess either in Iraq or Iran.
That should be obvious but actually it does need to be said, repeatedly, because the American-led coalition bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq has foolishly neglected to act against enemy propagandists.
I spotted this foolishness early after the toppling of Saddam’s regime and I warned on my website then that our forces were “Lions led by donkeys” when Saddam’s propaganda minister - Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf – "Comical Ali", remember him? - was excused and allowed to go free.
Enemy propagandists are not “comical” they are lethal. I don’t see anything comical in the killing of American, British and other coalition soldiers and civilians which those propagandists are inciting.
Our brave lions are being carried home dead in body-bags and coffins because our donkey military leaders have not seen fit yet to eliminate enemy propagandists and their high-tech tools of terror.
Although one cannot sensibly bomb “the internet” as such, the US military certainly can and should blast to bits any satellite in space which is broadcasting terror TV and the most effective enemy war propaganda.
In principle, it is easy to do because we know where the satellites are and we can hit them with no risk of collateral damage to civilians. Taking out an enemy satellite is a no-brainer.
There are only a limited number of countries (in collaboration with commercial companies perhaps) who can produce, launch into space and control these satellites and when we decide to take out satellites broadcasting enemy propaganda we are quickly going to find out who is really behind this terrorist war that is being waged against us. Then we'll see who is with us, and who is against us.
Some of the countries who can launch a satellite are also nuclear-weapon states, so depending on who our enemy is here, we need to be prepared for the threat of dramatic escalation of this war to the most extreme forms of warfare. Well it would be interesting to discover what an internet search will reveal in the case of the Al-Zawraa satellite? Who owns it? Who launched it?
I don’t know yet who exactly will lose out if we destroy their enemy propaganda satellites but I do know that we won't win in Iraq until we do muffle this sort of dangerous, evil propaganda.
So long as some idiot in the pentagon or wherever is commanding the military NOT to take these enemy satellites out, then it will remain a no-win scenario and a quagmire in Iraq.
In addition, if we have intelligence of the exact location of enemy propagandists at work then we can hit them with missiles, with a bit of luck, though there are risks of collateral damage and it means escalating the war in Iraq beyond Iraq’s borders - into Syria in the case of Al-Zarwaa TV but it could be other countries for other enemy TV stations being received in Iraq which are inciting further violence and chaos.
OK instead of just having our soldiers being killed on the roads of Iraq and getting stuck in a quagmire of a war, I am suggesting a more intelligent way to win this war by eliminating the most dangerous enemy propaganda.
Escalate the war with missile strikes into Syria and into space!