Local reporters have a little bit of backup for their "allegations"
Another little item I found while Googling that relates to comments about how Bundy should be paying the state of Nevada instead of the BLM for grazing rights. Don't know if that would work to well with Mr Bundy. Nevada charges between $12 and $14 per AUM (animal unit per month), the BLM charges $1.35 AUM and the average price east of the Rockies approaches $16 AUM
Thank you for the conversation in PM, but I can't quote your PMs in the public forums, so that conversation of little public use.How do I know this? Because I speak with the Bundy's personally every few days and also receive their updates.
I'm jumping in on this thread late, and perhaps someone has already pointed this out, but the claims of militia creating checkpoints, demanding papers etc is patently FALSE. How do I know this? Because I speak with the Bundy's personally every few days and also receive their updates.
I am a member of one of the militias that was represented at the ranch.
Now I ask you this: If the government came to your neighborhood and explained that the land your house sits on is no longer yours (or perhaps was never) and the court system failed to help you AND then a SWAT team showed up to evict you...what would you do? This is not a far-fetched scenario, my friends. It is happening all over the country.
Anyone who still believes the government is here to help and protect them REALLY needs to wake up.
raphaelschild has chosen to leave this forum, she tells me in PM.I'm jumping in on this thread late, and perhaps someone has already pointed this out, but the claims of militia creating checkpoints, demanding papers etc is patently FALSE. How do I know this? Because I speak with the Bundy's personally every few days and also receive their updates.
I am a member of one of the militias that was represented at the ranch.
Now I ask you this: If the government came to your neighborhood and explained that the land your house sits on is no longer yours (or perhaps was never) and the court system failed to help you AND then a SWAT team showed up to evict you...what would you do? This is not a far-fetched scenario, my friends. It is happening all over the country.
Anyone who still believes the government is here to help and protect them REALLY needs to wake up.
raphaelschild has chosen to leave this forum, she tells me in PM.
She accused me of being a Federal sympathizer since I'm in the SD National Guard and disagree with her personal opinion, which only demonstrates the profound ignorance apparent among these militia groups. This same ignorance explains why militia are at the Bundy ranch in the first place, since only a lack of knowledge of the law or who owns the land could motivate someone to take up arms against the state in such a misguided effort to avoid valid fees.
The sad fact is these militia groups have opened a wide gate for anti-gun to step in with sweeping gun control after the election cycle.
I respect he right to disagree with me on any issue, but she came to a debate forum, what did she expect but critical examination of her every statement? Is that not the very purpose of this website?Wow after one post? She wasnt much of a debater was she?
And I agree that the militia movement is just what the anti gun nuts want to showcase. A little extremism goes a long ways with these people, its a little ironic lol.
It also shows the deep level of paranoia that afflicts "us vs them- all or nothing" types regardless of their socio political orientation.raphaelschild has chosen to leave this forum, she tells me in PM.
She accused me of being a Federal sympathizer since I'm in the SD National Guard and disagree with her personal opinion, which only demonstrates the profound ignorance apparent among these militia groups.
Actually, it does have a use. It is grazing land for people who pay to use land maintained by the public. As Bundy has not paid his usage fee in years, he has no right to graze on those lands.
Well apparently a whole lot of people support Bundy's right to have his business supported by the government.
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