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Michigan governor signs bills tp gut wage & sick time laws

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https://www.apnews.com/64856ca0e9c7481cb5709929ec2c95c8

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Gov. Rick Snyder on Friday signed laws to significantly scale back citizen-initiated measures to raise Michigan’s minimum wage and require paid sick leave for workers, finalizing an unprecedented Republican-backed legislative maneuver that opponents blasted as shameful.

To prevent minimum wage and earned sick time initiatives from going to voters last month, GOP lawmakers approved them in September so they could be more easily altered after the election with simple majority votes rather than the three-fourths support that would have been needed if voters had passed the proposals.
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https://www.apnews.com/64856ca0e9c7481cb5709929ec2c95c8

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Gov. Rick Snyder on Friday signed laws to significantly scale back citizen-initiated measures to raise Michigan’s minimum wage and require paid sick leave for workers, finalizing an unprecedented Republican-backed legislative maneuver that opponents blasted as shameful.

To prevent minimum wage and earned sick time initiatives from going to voters last month, GOP lawmakers approved them in September so they could be more easily altered after the election with simple majority votes rather than the three-fourths support that would have been needed if voters had passed the proposals.
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No wonder I don't like Republicans. They're bad for your health.

Well these laws are an immoral usurpation of business property rights and bad for the health of the economy, it was good that they got axed
 

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Well these laws are an immoral usurpation of business property rights and bad for the health of the economy, it was good that they got axed

Don't really hear people referring to workers as "property" quite so openly.

Refreshing if a bit sad
 

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Well these laws are an immoral usurpation of business property rights and bad for the health of the economy, it was good that they got axed

How dare those uppity workers think they deserve rights.
 

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How dare those uppity workers think they deserve rights.

They had a right to refuse the job if the pay and benefits were not to their liking. The bigger problem is people feel entitled to make what they do not deserve because they don’t have the skills to earn pay and benefits and have an inflated view of their own worth.
 

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Don't really hear people referring to workers as "property" quite so openly.

Refreshing if a bit sad

The workers are not property, the businesses money used to pay them is property. To an extend so is the value produced by the workers the business’s property
 

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How did the country ever make it before increased paid leave and higher minimum wage. But wait, the State representative have done nothing yet, but pass the bills.
"GOP lawmakers approved them in September so they could be more easily altered after the election with simple majority votes rather than the three-fourths support that would have been needed if voters had passed the proposals."

Speculation on the part of the newspaper that major changes would be done.

"One law slows down a boost in Michigan’s minimum wage, so it will rise to $12.05 by 2030 instead of $12 by 2022 as mandated by the citizen-proposed measure. It repeals an existing provision that ties future increases to inflation, and it reverses a provision that would have brought a lower wage for tipped employees in line with the wage for other workers.

The other new law exempts employers with fewer than 50 employees from having to provide paid sick days — a change that is estimated to leave up to 1 million employees without the benefit. It also limits the amount of annual mandatory leave at larger employers to 40 hours, instead of 72 hours as proposed by the initiative.

Like any law made by the State. It can be changed in the future.
 

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They should put skull & crossbones warning signs on the interstate highways as you enter MI. If you don't like their laws, boycott them. Same with WI.
 

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Fascinating middle class and working class people still vote Republican. On their way out the door the GOP screws the working people. Not the Corps. or the rich, but the working people. And the moron Republican base who are getting screwed still vote Republican.
The ignorance of the Republican base is endless.
 
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Well these laws are an immoral usurpation of business property rights and bad for the health of the economy, it was good that they got axed

What's objectionable is the GOP couldn't make that case with the voters, so tricked them, lied to them, and apparently in GOP land in the age of Trump politicians lying to voters and betraying their trust is what the GOP is all about.

It's reason #879 why I'm so glad I don't have to try to defend GOP crap any longer. Seriously, they passed some laws before the election, told voters, "See, we support these goals!! Promise!!" then as soon as the election was over, said to voters, "Sorry. **** you! We lied!"
 

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The workers are not property, the businesses money used to pay them is property. To an extend so is the value produced by the workers the business’s property

Never have figured out how they got everybody to accept being commodities to be used and discarded at will by the donor class.
 

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What's objectionable is the GOP couldn't make that case with the voters, so tricked them, lied to them, and apparently in GOP land in the age of Trump politicians lying to voters and betraying their trust is what the GOP is all about.

It's reason #879 why I'm so glad I don't have to try to defend GOP crap any longer. Seriously, they passed some laws before the election, told voters, "See, we support these goals!! Promise!!" then as soon as the election was over, said to voters, "Sorry. **** you! We lied!"

Well in a society that allows a lot of unintelligent greedy selfish people to vote that may be what you need to do.

The voters vote on emotion, and they assume there’s huge pots of money the government and businesses own that will just magically pay for all their desires without costing anything.


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What's objectionable is the GOP couldn't make that case with the voters, so tricked them, lied to them, and apparently in GOP land in the age of Trump politicians lying to voters and betraying their trust is what the GOP is all about.

It's reason #879 why I'm so glad I don't have to try to defend GOP crap any longer. Seriously, they passed some laws before the election, told voters, "See, we support these goals!! Promise!!" then as soon as the election was over, said to voters, "Sorry. **** you! We lied!"

Ditto.


I voted for Scott Walker three times, in 2010 through 2014. Now I'm so damn glad to see the door hit his worthless backside. **** the Wisconsin GOP. (And the Michigan GOP.)
 

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How dare those uppity workers think they deserve rights.

Stupid workers. Don't they know they are just property? So glad to see so many minimum wage workers supporting the rich business owners by voting for trump and the republicans.

If you can't survive on minimum wage - just get a second job.

If you get sick and need to take a day off work - tough luck. Come into work and spread your germs so other workers can get sick.

Meanwhile the big bosses earning millions will be able to take time off to have long lunches, play golf and even screw a pretty young thing or two.

Isn't rightwing capitalism just great?
 

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Well in a society that allows a lot of unintelligent greedy selfish people to vote that may be what you need to do.

The voters vote on emotion, and they assume there’s huge pots of money the government and businesses own that will just magically pay for all their desires without costing anything.

^^^ Trump's GOP. I'll pass...
 

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Well these laws are an immoral usurpation of business property rights and bad for the health of the economy, it was good that they got axed

They had a right to refuse the job if the pay and benefits were not to their liking. The bigger problem is people feel entitled to make what they do not deserve because they don’t have the skills to earn pay and benefits and have an inflated view of their own worth.

The workers are not property, the businesses money used to pay them is property. To an extend so is the value produced by the workers the business’s property

Well in a society that allows a lot of unintelligent greedy selfish people to vote that may be what you need to do.

The voters vote on emotion, and they assume there’s huge pots of money the government and businesses own that will just magically pay for all their desires without costing anything.

Your posts sound like this:

 

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Who the hey votes for these clowns, and why? What's in it for them?
 

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Who the hey votes for these clowns, and why? What's in it for them?

they want to piss off librulls real good or something.
 

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https://www.apnews.com/64856ca0e9c7481cb5709929ec2c95c8

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Gov. Rick Snyder on Friday signed laws to significantly scale back citizen-initiated measures to raise Michigan’s minimum wage and require paid sick leave for workers, finalizing an unprecedented Republican-backed legislative maneuver that opponents blasted as shameful.

To prevent minimum wage and earned sick time initiatives from going to voters last month, GOP lawmakers approved them in September so they could be more easily altered after the election with simple majority votes rather than the three-fourths support that would have been needed if voters had passed the proposals.
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No wonder I don't like Republicans. They're bad for your health.

Snyder is today and always has been a typical right wing scumbag. Sure, he appears more likable and played that lovable nerd image right into office, but when push comes to shove, he is no different than the rest of them.
 

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Well these laws are an immoral usurpation of business property rights and bad for the health of the economy, it was good that they got axed

IF the laws are some immoral usurpation then our court system will sort it out- it's what our CONSTITUTION is designed to do... separate rabid rhetoric from fact.... :roll:

Fact since 1938 we have had a minimum wage set by the government and GAWD hasn't turned us into pillars of salt. Business up and downs have never been linked to wage paid. Oklahoma has a 7.35 minimum but both Walmart and Target are way above that- 11 to 12 dollars and hour to start. So perhaps not so bad for competitive businesses, looking to provide their workers with a living wage and keeping their employees around.

But let's trash talk the very people most snooty people rely on to do everything they feel 'above' doing.... :peace
 
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