Forgive that was my fault, clearly.
I was thinking of direct aplication of the second amendment: state constitutionS and law must comply with the Federal constitution, and so when the state issues a business license to an entity imposing a gun ban, the state is violating the second amendment.
If you want a business which can discriminate against gays then you have to go out of your way and organize as a religious non-profit. Likewise if you want to ban blacks or jews or armed citizens or women or whatever then you likewise need to go out of your way to organize as some kind of nonprofit.
Non sequitur
Your non sequitur allowed you to avoid the reality of what I said. That's kind of the purpose of posting a non sequitur.No answer eh? Or you just hadnt thought of it before and had no response? lol
Because you are the final authority on all things religious: Why do the islamo dogs kill innocent people and rape 9 year old girls? About a billion men believe that if they get killed, killing you in the name of Allah they will ascend to paradise and get 72 virgins to abuse as they wish; why is that??It is so sad that people's understanding of religion has become so distorted that he does not realize that what he is doing is immoral.
Your non sequitur allowed you to avoid the reality of what I said. That's kind of the purpose of posting a non sequitur.
If you want a business which can discriminate against gays then you have to go out of your way and organize as a religious non-profit. Likewise if you want to ban blacks or jews or armed citizens or women or whatever then you likewise need to go out of your way to organize as some kind of nonprofit.
How ironicNah, you are ignoring the relevance because you cant support your position. Evidence of that is that you continue talking about 'me and my posts' instead of doing so.
Just as I did here. Next time, if you repost and continue avoiding, I'll just requote the passages and demonstrate that avoidance in the interests of the discussion to help you with a reference.
Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... And That's Legal
Oh boy, more contraversy. I think there are lots of guns in Michigan, so business will likely boom. No pun intended.
It is so sad that people's understanding of religion has become so distorted that he does not realize that what he is doing is immoral.
And his position is hypocritical and wrong. There is absolutely no way he turns away others who are sinners (since everyone is a sinner). This is exactly why many of us support antidiscrimination laws that include sexuality.
Heck, are those people who supported the baker and the pizzeria because "they didn't say they would refuse to serve gays at all" really going to support this guy? Or is it going to become "well it is legal"?
I plan on publically smearing and discriminating against Brian Klawiter, because I find him lacking in moral character.
But would He sell something from His carpentry shop specifically to be used in a same sex marriage. I say, No, He wouldn'tIf the guy read the bible and considered Jesus as a role model, he would see a prophet who showed compassion and love to the most socially ostracized people in his time. If Jesus touched lepers and broke bread with prostitutes and sinners, then I don't believe Jesus would refuse to sell something from his carpentry shop to a homosexual.
But would He sell something from His carpentry shop specifically to be used in a same sex marriage. I say, No, He wouldn't
The dude hung around and loved everyone but the self righteous. I think he would be cool with selling his goods to be used in a same-sex wedding. He was cool with the Centurian and his Pais afterall.
Love ≠ Approval
Yeah. Love is better than approval. It means you accept people for who they are without trying to force them to change and you appreciate their differences even if you do not agree. You might learn a thing or two from Jesus.
Let's see what Jesus actually said, in the Sermon on the mount for instance (my liberal friends love the Sermon on the Mount, just not all of it)
Matthew 5: 27-30
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye makes you [w]stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you [x]to lose one of the parts of your body, [y]than for your whole body to be thrown into [z]hell. 30 If your right hand makes you [aa]stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you [ab]to lose one of the parts of your body, [ac]than for your whole body to go into [ad]hell.
Ouch!! Sounds like He is talking about changing behavior.
Let's see what Jesus actually said, in the Sermon on the mount for instance (my liberal friends love the Sermon on the Mount, just not all of it)
Matthew 5: 27-30
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye makes you [w]stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you [x]to lose one of the parts of your body, [y]than for your whole body to be thrown into [z]hell. 30 If your right hand makes you [aa]stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you [ab]to lose one of the parts of your body, [ac]than for your whole body to go into [ad]hell.
Ouch!! Sounds like He is talking about changing behavior.
Being the author of the entire Bible, if it's in The Bible He mentioned it.Yeah, adultery is pretty bad. And yet I suspect he even loved adulterers. While we are on the topic can you post where he specifically mentioned homosexuality?
Yeah and blacks and women should have just 'taken it' too instead of speaking out and fighting for their rights.
Sorry some people's fight for equality is inconveniencing or annoying you.
You're confusing what was codified in the law with the free exercise of religion
People supported segregation and racism towards blacks by misusing and intentionally (IMO) scriptures, even into the 1960's. And the Bible has lots of passages that have been used to keep women submissive to men and as property. That had been used to discriminate against women for centuries.
No responseNon sequitur
No responseYour non sequitur allowed you to avoid the reality of what I said. That's kind of the purpose of posting a non sequitur.
How ironic
So you stepped into a conversation with someone else, and were wrong there was no confusion):
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LOLOL
So, now that we have all that out of the way, how would you like to support your position that discrimination against gays based on religious beliefs is different than that same religiously-based discrimination against blacks or women in the past?
Yeah. Love is better than approval. It means you accept people for who they are without trying to force them to change and you appreciate their differences even if you do not agree. You might learn a thing or two from Jesus.
Yeah, adultery is pretty bad. And yet I suspect he even loved adulterers.
While we are on the topic can you post where he specifically mentioned homosexuality?
You quoted it. Discrimination against blacks and women (in some instances) was codified in the law.
The comment was regarding how obnoxious and inconvenient (my paraphrasing) gays are and the comment referred to how people reacted to blacks and women fighting for their civil rights BEFORE their equal rights were recognized by law.
There ya go, do you understand now?
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