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Miami-Dade K-8 bars elementary students from 4 library titles following parent complaint. One is the poem "The Hill We Climb."

That is a LOOOONG way from your ignorant insistence that they were banned. They aren't banned. Now you flail for some other ignorant point to hook your anger to. Just admit you are wrong and do a LITTLE research the next time.
They indeed are banned for any student in elementary school grades. That is unconstitutional because these books aren't pornographic or obscene.
 
Sure they have that right--for their children.

But not for my kids, or my neighbors kids, or anyone else's kids.
That's why school boards hold meetings. Show up and speak your piece.
You send a note to school asking your child to be offered a different book to read for class time. You don't fill out a badly spelled, miss cited, and ignorant form demanding no child should read a book you don't like.
Is anyone really doing that? How many parents say "yeah please teach my first grader about oral sex, masturbation and anal intercourse".
This Proud Boy fan. antisemite is who gets to decide for all the children and their parents in an entire school district?
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Nope. But she does get to raise her voice; go to the meetings are answer her.
 
But Mom, all the other kids don't have racist parents.
If IT WERE just one parent, I'd agree, but this shit's going all over at the expense of actual education. Why doesn't your ilk complain abut the dismal test results that spending fifteen to twenty thousand dollars buys.
 
Is anyone really doing that? How many parents say "yeah please teach my first grader about oral sex, masturbation and anal intercourse".

Do you expect to be taken seriously? I realize this delusion is at serious levels, but honestly, where are you getting your information from?
 
If IT WERE just one parent, I'd agree, but this shit's going all over at the expense of actual education. Why doesn't your ilk complain abut the dismal test results that spending fifteen to twenty thousand dollars buys.

So banning books will improve test scores? Skeptical.
 
Do you expect to be taken seriously? I realize this delusion is at serious levels, but honestly, where are you getting your information from?
Not the main stream propaganda mills.
 
So banning books will improve test scores? Skeptical.
Not talking "banning books" that's a propaganda buzz word the Democratic-media-propaganda ministry uses. Books are available to check out for children of appropriate ages.
 
That's why school boards hold meetings. Show up and speak your piece.

Is anyone really doing that? How many parents say "yeah please teach my first grader about oral sex, masturbation and anal intercourse".

Nope. But she does get to raise her voice; go to the meetings are answer her.
There was no school board meeting.

It was a form.

That's it.
 
I might ask you the same question.

Let me help you out a little. Since you're going to demagogue the issue, as you right-wingers like to do, you can't be so specific. We're "grooming" the kids. That's nice and vague with great sexual innuendo. Don't get bogged down with specifics you can't prove.

You're welcome.
 
Not talking "banning books" that's a propaganda buzz word the Democratic-media-propaganda ministry uses. Books are available to check out for children of appropriate ages.
It was written for children in primary grades K-5. So, for ages Kindergarten to 5th grade...ABCs is usually something for small children....a middle school kid isn't going to be interested and they know it.
 
If IT WERE just one parent, I'd agree, but this shit's going all over at the expense of actual education. Why doesn't your ilk complain abut the dismal test results that spending fifteen to twenty thousand dollars buys.
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If you wanna try again, go 'head.

In the meantime, why are you defending racists?
 
Do you expect to be taken seriously? I realize this delusion is at serious levels, but honestly, where are you getting your information from?
Obviously no schools are teaching porn to children. That's ridiculous.

Right wing propaganda has these guys all riled up over a lie that's just flat out pervy.

Seriously, it's just an extension of Pizza Gate.

Todays Republicans are just way to involved in what happens in people's pants. It's very, very creepy.
 
Not talking "banning books" that's a propaganda buzz word the Democratic-media-propaganda ministry uses. Books are available to check out for children of appropriate ages.
  • Counts v. Cedarville School District, 295 F.Supp.2d 996 (W.D. Ark. 2003)
    Book Challenged: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

    A public school student's parent objected to the inclusion of this book in school libraries. Thereafter, the school board voted to restrict access to the book, as well as the rest of the Harry Potter series, by shelving them out of view and requiring parental permission to check them out. The school board's reasoning was that the books encouraged disobedience and involved matters of witchcraft and the occult. The court found that there was no evidence that would have led the school board members to reasonably believe that the books would cause a disruption in the schools were student allowed to have unfettered access to them. Further, it is impermissible to restrict access to books on the basis of the ideas expressed therein. Consequently, the school board's decision to restrict access to the Harry Potter books was found to violate the First Amendment.
 
Some interesting information has come out about the one parent who filed the complaint in the Miami school.

The Florida mom who sought to ban Amanda Gorman’s poem says she’s sorry for promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Months before a Miami-area mother persuaded a local school to restrict access to an Amanda Gorman poem, she was posting antisemitic memes on her Facebook page.

Now, Daily Salinas is apologizing for one of those things — and unrepentant about the other.

“I want to apologize to the Jewish community,” Salinas told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency on Wednesday. She was saying sorry for a Facebook post she shared in March offering a summary of “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” a notorious antisemitic forgery written more than a century ago in Russia.

“I’m not what the post says,” Salinas said. “I love the Jewish community.”

We already know that Ms Salinas is rather poorly educated but her words following the discovery of her posting anti-Semitic tropes on Facebook reveal even more of her ignorance - and bias.
Salinas’ post about the Protocols included a list of steps depicting how “Jewish Zionists” would achieve world domination. The graphic included stages such as “Place our agents and helpers everywhere,” “Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism,” and “Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary.”

Salinas confirmed that the post about the “Protocols” was hers and apologized for it, saying she hadn’t read it beyond the word “communism.”. . . “I see the word ‘communism,’ and I think it’s something about communism,” she said. “I didn’t read the words.”

How many of the 'parents' pushing for book bans have actually bothered to read the books in question? How many are like Ms Salinas and react after seeing one or two words they can't read past?
 
Funny thing, this is NOT banning - the books will be available for older children. "Banning" is just a trigger word the Democrat-Media-Collusion uses to incite their pliant disciples.

You miss the larger point, conveniently, because hundreds of books have been banned.
 
Some interesting information has come out about the one parent who filed the complaint in the Miami school.



We already know that Ms Salinas is rather poorly educated but her words following the discovery of her posting anti-Semitic tropes on Facebook reveal even more of her ignorance - and bias.


How many of the 'parents' pushing for book bans have actually bothered to read the books in question? How many are like Ms Salinas and react after seeing one or two words they can't read past?

These people attacking books claiming its for the children are lying through their teeth Its all political. Its an attack on public education and diversity and its a strike for Christian Nationalism.
 
I think it should be put to a vote of the parents, Josie. Not a complaint by a handful of morally outraged pearl-clutching activists. An actual vote by actual parents with children in that district. If 51% vote to remove, then let them be removed. If they vote for them stay, they stay and that is the end of it.
I think that's a terrible way to run a school.
 
They indeed are banned for any student in elementary school grades. That is unconstitutional because these books aren't pornographic or obscene.

They are not banned. Really, how deep of a hole are you willing to dig?

Even your wrong headed interpretation is broken. Age restriction wouldn't banning. You are allowing yourself to look ridiculous because you can't admit you were wrong.

First Take: The books are banned!

Second: I SWEAR!! The books are banned! ZOMG HITLER!!!

Third: I mean age age restricted!! AGE RESTRICTION IS BOOK BURNING!!

As I already showed, the books are still available to everyone in the library.

I guess next you will attack the Dewey Decimal system.

Soon: "Oh MY GOD!! They put A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME in the Science section... they've banned it from the biographies section!"
 
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You miss the larger point, conveniently, because hundreds of books have been banned.
Nope. As I mentioned earlier, except for extreme, near-pornographic material, most books are merely segregated into age-appropriate divisions.
 
  • Counts v. Cedarville School District, 295 F.Supp.2d 996 (W.D. Ark. 2003)
    Book Challenged: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

    A public school student's parent objected to the inclusion of this book in school libraries. Thereafter, the school board voted to restrict access to the book, as well as the rest of the Harry Potter series, by shelving them out of view and requiring parental permission to check them out. The school board's reasoning was that the books encouraged disobedience and involved matters of witchcraft and the occult. The court found that there was no evidence that would have led the school board members to reasonably believe that the books would cause a disruption in the schools were student allowed to have unfettered access to them. Further, it is impermissible to restrict access to books on the basis of the ideas expressed therein. Consequently, the school board's decision to restrict access to the Harry Potter books was found to violate the First Amendment.

and the point would be? That the law works?
 
Nope. As I mentioned earlier, except for extreme, near-pornographic material, most books are merely segregated into age-appropriate divisions.

"The PEN America report found that, between July 2021 and June 2022, there were 2,532 attempted book bans targeting 1,648 unique books. This newest count builds on a PEN America report published in April that found slightly more than 1,500 attempted book bans, targeting about 1,000 titles, between July 2021 and March 2022. Until last year, PEN America had not tracked these numbers in detail."

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You're kidding yourself if you think all these books are extreme, near-pornographic porn. In fact, I would be impressed if you could list as many of ten of them that qualify for that distinction.
 
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