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Mexico might try to put the El Paso shooter on trial. The U.S. is unlikely to hand him over.

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Eight Mexicans were among the 22 victims of Saturday’s mass shooting in El Paso, and Mexico is now exploring an unusual legal recourse: seeking the extradition of an American for a crime carried out on American soil.

Mexico has long used legal action to resolve international disputes, analysts say, but requesting the extradition of an American is unlikely to succeed as long as U.S. authorities continue pursuing a criminal case against the 21-year-old suspected shooter.

“At the end of the day, I would be very surprised if the U.S. government were to agree to it,” said John B. Bellinger III, who served as the State Department’s legal adviser under the George W. Bush administration.
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I know that it is highly unlikely Mexico’s attempt to extradite the El Paso shooter out of the United States will be successful, but I actually support them in their efforts. Given the contents of the shooters tirade, calling it a manifesto is too polite, I believe it would be fitting for the El Paso to face Justice at the hands of the people he specifically targeted because of his twisted racial beliefs.
 

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I know that it is highly unlikely Mexico’s attempt to extradite the El Paso shooter out of the United States will be successful, but I actually support them in their efforts. Given the contents of the shooters tirade, calling it a manifesto is too polite, I believe it would be fitting for the El Paso to face Justice at the hands of the people he specifically targeted because of his twisted racial beliefs.
They can have him...after we are done with him.

(you know he will likely be sentenced to death)
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...l-us-is-unlikely-hand-him-over/?noredirect=on

I know that it is highly unlikely Mexico’s attempt to extradite the El Paso shooter out of the United States will be successful, but I actually support them in their efforts. Given the contents of the shooters tirade, calling it a manifesto is too polite, I believe it would be fitting for the El Paso to face Justice at the hands of the people he specifically targeted because of his twisted racial beliefs.

They can have him after we execute him.

He killed more Americans than Mexican citizens.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...l-us-is-unlikely-hand-him-over/?noredirect=on

I know that it is highly unlikely Mexico’s attempt to extradite the El Paso shooter out of the United States will be successful, but I actually support them in their efforts. Given the contents of the shooters tirade, calling it a manifesto is too polite, I believe it would be fitting for the El Paso to face Justice at the hands of the people he specifically targeted because of his twisted racial beliefs.
Mexico has abolished both the death penalty and life in prison. He’d be able to parole after like 15 years in Mex.

In Tex he gets the needle
 

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I expect it is more of a political ploy to play to Mexicans in Mexico

First it makes the Leader look like he is standing up for Mexican lives

Second the President of Mexico ( current) I believe was unhappy with the extradition of El Chapo, and felt that should he should have been dealt with in Mexico rather than being sent to the US for jail. His statement about having the El Paso shooter sent to prison in Mexico would I in response to that I believe
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...l-us-is-unlikely-hand-him-over/?noredirect=on

I know that it is highly unlikely Mexico’s attempt to extradite the El Paso shooter out of the United States will be successful, but I actually support them in their efforts. Given the contents of the shooters tirade, calling it a manifesto is too polite, I believe it would be fitting for the El Paso to face Justice at the hands of the people he specifically targeted because of his twisted racial beliefs.
There's no legal justification for that at all; Mexico has no jurisdiction.
 

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Mexico has abolished both the death penalty and life in prison. He’d be able to parole after like 15 years in Mex.

In Tex he gets the needle
If he dies he becomes a martyr, but I think it would be somewhat fitting if the man was put on trial in Mexico and have to endure the consequences of having his hateful manifesto read out in Spanish to people following the trial in Mexico.

If the prisons in Mexico are lacking in security, a prison sentence in Mexico may be a death sentence for the El Paso shooter, given that there might be people who may want to take their rage out on him, vigilante style.
 

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Mexico doesn’t have the death penalty or, I think, even life in prison. Texas will exact justice.
 

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Mexico has abolished both the death penalty and life in prison. He’d be able to parole after like 15 years in Mex.

In Tex he gets the needle
Got a problem with that? 15 years in a Mexican jail followed by extradition to Texas? I would have guessed that sounds like a win-win to most Americans.

edit- Hell, the mandatory appeals and such are liable to stretch out 15 years anyway.
 

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There's no legal justification for that at all; Mexico has no jurisdiction.
Why not? Canada arrested a Chinese tech executive at the request of the US to be extradicted on charges of violating US sanctions against Iran. She hadn't violated any Canadian laws, we were just honouring a treaty.
 

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Mexico has abolished both the death penalty and life in prison. He’d be able to parole after like 15 years in Mex.

In Tex he gets the needle
For Mexican nationals you are correct, but given the hatred and racism of this guy towards Latinos I doubt he would walk out of that prison alive and he would be beat up on a daily basis.

Moot point because we won't let them extradite him nor should we. His crimes were on US soil.
 

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Why not? Canada arrested a Chinese tech executive at the request of the US to be extradicted on charges of violating US sanctions against Iran. She hadn't violated any Canadian laws, we were just honouring a treaty.
You have it backwards. The shooter didn't violate any Mexican laws, because he was not in Mexico.
 

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Got a problem with that? 15 years in a Mexican jail followed by extradition to Texas? I would have guessed that sounds like a win-win to most Americans.

edit- Hell, the mandatory appeals and such are liable to stretch out 15 years anyway.
It’s not a win-win for El Paso. You want us to wait 15 years to try him? **** that and **** anyone who thinks El Paso shouldn’t get first crack at him.
 

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If he dies he becomes a martyr, but I think it would be somewhat fitting if the man was put on trial in Mexico and have to endure the consequences of having his hateful manifesto read out in Spanish to people following the trial in Mexico.

If the prisons in Mexico are lacking in security, a prison sentence in Mexico may be a death sentence for the El Paso shooter, given that there might be people who may want to take their rage out on him, vigilante style.
So if he’s sentenced to death by jury in the US he’s going to be a martyr, but he won’t if we turn him over to a foreign country to face their kangaroo court system and gets killed in a foreign prison?

I’m not sure I follow your logic
 

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Got a problem with that? 15 years in a Mexican jail followed by extradition to Texas? I would have guessed that sounds like a win-win to most Americans.

edit- Hell, the mandatory appeals and such are liable to stretch out 15 years anyway.
I can imagine plenty of fresh avenues of appeal against a death sentence being opened on the basis of the defendant being threatened with or actually extradited to a foreign country prior to their US trial. Especially a country without robust protections for the accused and prison conditions that some might call torture
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...l-us-is-unlikely-hand-him-over/?noredirect=on

I know that it is highly unlikely Mexico’s attempt to extradite the El Paso shooter out of the United States will be successful, but I actually support them in their efforts. Given the contents of the shooters tirade, calling it a manifesto is too polite, I believe it would be fitting for the El Paso to face Justice at the hands of the people he specifically targeted because of his twisted racial beliefs.
Justice will be surer and swifter in Texas.
 

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If he dies he becomes a martyr, but I think it would be somewhat fitting if the man was put on trial in Mexico and have to endure the consequences of having his hateful manifesto read out in Spanish to people following the trial in Mexico.

If the prisons in Mexico are lacking in security, a prison sentence in Mexico may be a death sentence for the El Paso shooter, given that there might be people who may want to take their rage out on him, vigilante style.
I 100% am not understanding why liberals are trying to give a big **** you to El Paso. Is it just general Texas hate? I don’t even want the feds to take him.
 

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If he dies he becomes a martyr, but I think it would be somewhat fitting if the man was put on trial in Mexico and have to endure the consequences of having his hateful manifesto read out in Spanish to people following the trial in Mexico.
It really sounds like your motivation here is not so much his crime, but what he wrote. So, you're basically arguing for punishing speech/press, and by a government which has no jurisdiction.

The bastard should burn. But not in the particular ways you're pushing for, if the rule of law matters to you.
 

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Mexico has abolished both the death penalty and life in prison. He’d be able to parole after like 15 years in Mex.
Wrong. One can still receive a life sentence in Mexico, but they become eligible for parole after serving 50 years.
 
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