Mexico City says "gringos out!"

[Buster Keaton]

MSN

Story by AFP
Hundreds of protesters marched through the Mexican capital on Friday denouncing gentrification caused by foreigners, with some vandalizing businesses and shouting "gringos out!"

The demonstration in the capital's central area turned violent when hooded individuals smashed windows, damaged restaurant furniture and looted a clothing store.

Mexico City's government secretary Cesar Cravioto said 15 businesses and public facilities were damaged in what he called "xenophobic expressions" similar to what Mexican migrants have suffered in other countries.

"We are a city of open arms… there are always ways to negotiate, to sit at the table," Cravioto told Milenio television.

Neighborhoods like Roma-Condesa have since 2020, amid the COVID-19 pandemic, seen an influx of foreigners, mostly young Americans working remotely and attracted by lower living costs.

Their arrival has driven up rent prices considerably, forcing Mexican residents to move to more affordable areas.

"Housing is a right, not a commodity," read placards carried by the mostly young protesters.

As they passed street-side restaurants, some demonstrators heckled American diners, who either ignored them or left, AFP witnessed.

"Mexico for Mexicans," "Pay taxes, learn Spanish, respect my culture," and "gringo go home" were among other protest slogans.

Roma-Condesa, a bohemian sector of the Mexican capital, has been particularly affected by gentrification. While previous demonstrations against the phenomenon have occurred in Mexico City, this was the largest protest so far.

Mexico is home to one-fifth of the five million expatriates counted by the Association of Americans Resident Overseas in 2023.

The march also comes as US President Donald Trump intensifies his crackdown against illegal immigrants in the United States.

Comment:
This is just too funny.
I am petty sure that the American immigrants have crossed their border legally.
I am sure that the American immigrants are not practicing gang warfare or spraying graffiti on everything.
I bet that the American immigrants are not using the Mexican welfare benefits.
I bet that they are not voting in their election.

 

[Airyaman]

So that means you'll be canceling your trip?

 

[Allan]

Hey Buster why don't you post a few more duplicate threads.

Followed by this news article...

Protests against surging mass tourism in Mexico City end in vandalism, harassment of tourists

Hundreds of protesters in Mexico City have destroyed businesses and harassed tourists in the city’s touristic hub in a march railing against mass tourism and gentrification.

apnews.com

Such a strange concept that these protesters are promoting. Apparently when there is a limited supply of housing and a large influx of foreigners who seek to rent or buy it, then the remaining housing stock and the previous population of natives, citizens and more have to pay a lot more for it.

Their solution seems to involve generalizing about who is driving up the price of the housing with regard to their nationality and skin color. They want their access to such housing to be removed via legislation and in many cases it appears they want them to "go home" and be removed or no longer allowed to come into the country with their wealth.

I mean clearly these people are not a drag their economy or taking public resources. The chief complaint involves their wealth and ability to pay higher rents and also they are wealthier than the prior folks in those neighborhoods. Removing them would literally be removing wealth.

I mean seriously these people have broken no laws, they've committed no crimes. They are a credit to their communities and they are working high paying jobs that allow them to spend and improve their neighborhoods.

Plus we've been told repeatedly that it would be racist to not want to live among BIPOC people. These folks are not only doing that but apparently paying well for the privilege of such accommodations.

I just don't understand why these people are protesting. I mean they've no right to live in a certain neighborhood or demand their rents not rise to meet the market demand. Can't they just demand more housing rather than pointing fingers and blaming certain groups? Shouldn't they just rush in and build more housing themselves? Why do they get to hate and legislate against entire classes of people?

"We all know....." there's no real problems with regard to these protests. Clearly some sort of internet misinformation or right wing talking points just made them believe rents are rising, that housing is a finite resource, that markets respond to supply and demand and that all these people from a foreign land who mostly have the same skin color are the source of all their problems.

What they need is more censorship, more fact checking, better messaging and more empathy. That will make them realize they've been divided when they could be united, that they are part of the solution, not part of the problem and maybe another couple dogmatic slogans like Hope and Change or PROGRESS!

So sad to see these students becoming so Nazi-like in their thoughts, actions and pomoted solutions.

 

[rickc]

Trump is just screwing up the entire world

Americans will be pariahs worldwide

 

[aociswundumho]

Kind of ridiculous to argue to keep out rich people, but hey mexico you do you.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

I am petty

Freudian slip or frank admission?

 

[Nickyjo]

MSN

Story by AFP
Hundreds of protesters marched through the Mexican capital on Friday denouncing gentrification caused by foreigners, with some vandalizing businesses and shouting "gringos out!"

The demonstration in the capital's central area turned violent when hooded individuals smashed windows, damaged restaurant furniture and looted a clothing store.

Mexico City's government secretary Cesar Cravioto said 15 businesses and public facilities were damaged in what he called "xenophobic expressions" similar to what Mexican migrants have suffered in other countries.

"We are a city of open arms… there are always ways to negotiate, to sit at the table," Cravioto told Milenio television.

Neighborhoods like Roma-Condesa have since 2020, amid the COVID-19 pandemic, seen an influx of foreigners, mostly young Americans working remotely and attracted by lower living costs.

Their arrival has driven up rent prices considerably, forcing Mexican residents to move to more affordable areas.

"Housing is a right, not a commodity," read placards carried by the mostly young protesters.

As they passed street-side restaurants, some demonstrators heckled American diners, who either ignored them or left, AFP witnessed.

"Mexico for Mexicans," "Pay taxes, learn Spanish, respect my culture," and "gringo go home" were among other protest slogans.

Roma-Condesa, a bohemian sector of the Mexican capital, has been particularly affected by gentrification. While previous demonstrations against the phenomenon have occurred in Mexico City, this was the largest protest so far.

Mexico is home to one-fifth of the five million expatriates counted by the Association of Americans Resident Overseas in 2023.

The march also comes as US President Donald Trump intensifies his crackdown against illegal immigrants in the United States.

Comment:
This is just too funny.
I am petty sure that the American immigrants have crossed their border legally.
I am sure that the American immigrants are not practicing gang warfare or spraying graffiti on everything.
I bet that the American immigrants are not using the Mexican welfare benefits.
I bet that they are not voting in their election.

MAGA, er, MMGA arrives in Mexico.

Your ignorance of the migrant situation in the US touched all the bigoted bases.

 

[soap box]

MSN

Story by AFP
Hundreds of protesters marched through the Mexican capital on Friday denouncing gentrification caused by foreigners, with some vandalizing businesses and shouting "gringos out!"

The demonstration in the capital's central area turned violent when hooded individuals smashed windows, damaged restaurant furniture and looted a clothing store.

Mexico City's government secretary Cesar Cravioto said 15 businesses and public facilities were damaged in what he called "xenophobic expressions" similar to what Mexican migrants have suffered in other countries.

"We are a city of open arms… there are always ways to negotiate, to sit at the table," Cravioto told Milenio television.

Neighborhoods like Roma-Condesa have since 2020, amid the COVID-19 pandemic, seen an influx of foreigners, mostly young Americans working remotely and attracted by lower living costs.

Their arrival has driven up rent prices considerably, forcing Mexican residents to move to more affordable areas.

"Housing is a right, not a commodity," read placards carried by the mostly young protesters.

As they passed street-side restaurants, some demonstrators heckled American diners, who either ignored them or left, AFP witnessed.

"Mexico for Mexicans," "Pay taxes, learn Spanish, respect my culture," and "gringo go home" were among other protest slogans.

Roma-Condesa, a bohemian sector of the Mexican capital, has been particularly affected by gentrification. While previous demonstrations against the phenomenon have occurred in Mexico City, this was the largest protest so far.

Mexico is home to one-fifth of the five million expatriates counted by the Association of Americans Resident Overseas in 2023.

The march also comes as US President Donald Trump intensifies his crackdown against illegal immigrants in the United States.

Comment:
This is just too funny.
I am petty sure that the American immigrants have crossed their border legally.
I am sure that the American immigrants are not practicing gang warfare or spraying graffiti on everything.
I bet that the American immigrants are not using the Mexican welfare benefits.
I bet that they are not voting in their election.

None of my neighbors would know how many pesos you could trade for a dollar but everyone in Mexico knows the exchange rate is about 19. Minimum wage is equal to $12/day. The perspective is different in Mexico.

‘¡Fuera Gringos!’: Mexicans Take To The Streets To Protest Gentrification And The Treatment Of Migrants In The U.S. - Parriva

This was the march against gentrification in Mexico City; firecrackers were thrown at Starbucks. With slogans such as “Out with the gringos!”, “Spanish is spoken here,” and “No to real […]

www.parriva.com

"In recent weeks, the immigration policy spearheaded by Donald Trump has affected Mexican migrants. The operations have been violent, arresting anyone seen with brown skin.
These images have caused a stir in Mexico, where many have family, friends, or acquaintances in the US."

***

This video shows an interview with people who've been displaced by American neo-yuppies. Towards the end a woman explains the protest. Her rent went so high she lost her restaurant business. It's largely an economic protest against suddenly skyrocketing real estate in a medium size colonia in D.F., aka Mexico City.




Gentrification has happened to some degree in every big city I've ever known. I wish they weren't violent but they're still not the bully in the story. They're protesting the economic changes but they're protesting the US too.

 

[Integrityrespec]

MSN

Story by AFP
Hundreds of protesters marched through the Mexican capital on Friday denouncing gentrification caused by foreigners, with some vandalizing businesses and shouting "gringos out!"

The demonstration in the capital's central area turned violent when hooded individuals smashed windows, damaged restaurant furniture and looted a clothing store.

Mexico City's government secretary Cesar Cravioto said 15 businesses and public facilities were damaged in what he called "xenophobic expressions" similar to what Mexican migrants have suffered in other countries.

"We are a city of open arms… there are always ways to negotiate, to sit at the table," Cravioto told Milenio television.

Neighborhoods like Roma-Condesa have since 2020, amid the COVID-19 pandemic, seen an influx of foreigners, mostly young Americans working remotely and attracted by lower living costs.

Their arrival has driven up rent prices considerably, forcing Mexican residents to move to more affordable areas.

"Housing is a right, not a commodity," read placards carried by the mostly young protesters.

As they passed street-side restaurants, some demonstrators heckled American diners, who either ignored them or left, AFP witnessed.

"Mexico for Mexicans," "Pay taxes, learn Spanish, respect my culture," and "gringo go home" were among other protest slogans.

Roma-Condesa, a bohemian sector of the Mexican capital, has been particularly affected by gentrification. While previous demonstrations against the phenomenon have occurred in Mexico City, this was the largest protest so far.

Mexico is home to one-fifth of the five million expatriates counted by the Association of Americans Resident Overseas in 2023.

The march also comes as US President Donald Trump intensifies his crackdown against illegal immigrants in the United States.

Comment:
This is just too funny.
I am petty sure that the American immigrants have crossed their border legally.
I am sure that the American immigrants are not practicing gang warfare or spraying graffiti on everything.
I bet that the American immigrants are not using the Mexican welfare benefits.
I bet that they are not voting in their election.

Ok, I will not go back. Let's cut all aid to Mexico is that's how the feel. Let's also stop all trade.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Kind of ridiculous to argue to keep out rich people, but hey mexico you do you.

Not if those people are driving up your cost of living and housing prospects. Those are the kitchen table issues that drown out the "but the wealthy bring wealth!" argument, especially when the wealth ends up concentrated in the hands of a few,

 

[ElChupacabra]

Ok, I will not go back. Let's cut all aid to Mexico is that's how the feel. Let's also stop all trade.

God this is daft.

 

[CANON]

Ok, I will not go back. Let's cut all aid to Mexico is that's how the feel. Let's also stop all trade.

Quite the flair for the dramatic.

Imagine if Mexico decided to stop cooperating on border enforcement and policing against the cartels. That's what would happen when you'd cut aid to Mexico.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Irony.

 

[Gatsby]

That's sad. I like CDMX. It's a shame it's as dangerous as it is, or it would be one of my favorite cities in the world. CDMX is a better place because it's a cosmopolitan global city. I hope they don't let misguided xenophobia and nonsense "problems" like gentrification make their city worse.

 

[trumptman]

MSN

Story by AFP
Hundreds of protesters marched through the Mexican capital on Friday denouncing gentrification caused by foreigners, with some vandalizing businesses and shouting "gringos out!"

The demonstration in the capital's central area turned violent when hooded individuals smashed windows, damaged restaurant furniture and looted a clothing store.

Mexico City's government secretary Cesar Cravioto said 15 businesses and public facilities were damaged in what he called "xenophobic expressions" similar to what Mexican migrants have suffered in other countries.

"We are a city of open arms… there are always ways to negotiate, to sit at the table," Cravioto told Milenio television.

Neighborhoods like Roma-Condesa have since 2020, amid the COVID-19 pandemic, seen an influx of foreigners, mostly young Americans working remotely and attracted by lower living costs.

Their arrival has driven up rent prices considerably, forcing Mexican residents to move to more affordable areas.

"Housing is a right, not a commodity," read placards carried by the mostly young protesters.

As they passed street-side restaurants, some demonstrators heckled American diners, who either ignored them or left, AFP witnessed.

"Mexico for Mexicans," "Pay taxes, learn Spanish, respect my culture," and "gringo go home" were among other protest slogans.

Roma-Condesa, a bohemian sector of the Mexican capital, has been particularly affected by gentrification. While previous demonstrations against the phenomenon have occurred in Mexico City, this was the largest protest so far.

Mexico is home to one-fifth of the five million expatriates counted by the Association of Americans Resident Overseas in 2023.

The march also comes as US President Donald Trump intensifies his crackdown against illegal immigrants in the United States.

Comment:
This is just too funny.
I am petty sure that the American immigrants have crossed their border legally.
I am sure that the American immigrants are not practicing gang warfare or spraying graffiti on everything.
I bet that the American immigrants are not using the Mexican welfare benefits.
I bet that they are not voting in their election.

There was a new "anti-Trump" thread created about how American tourism was going to fall and part of that measurement was how Canadian snow birds are doing to skip the US and spend their winters down on Mexico.

Articles like this should let them remember exactly how well that is going to go for them.

 

[rickc]

I believe the wintering Canadians either go to the Yucatan or the Baja Peninsula.

 

[aociswundumho]

Not if those people are driving up your cost of living and housing prospects.

Who exactly are "those people"? Anyone who enters the housing market increases demand, which naturally affects prices. Are you saying people should be stopped from buying homes simply because their participation might make things more expensive for others?

Are you going to base the restrictions on race, skin color, or ethnicity?

 

[BirdinHand]

The ignorance displayed by MAGAs on this topic is amazing.

Many American areas limit the % of properties that can be short term or vacation rentals to prevent that market from driving up local housing costs to unsustainable levels.

I imagine areas in Mexico will also enact similar ordinances, as the impacts avoided in the US by such restriction and regulation around rentals has not yet been addressed there.

 

[Grand Mal]

The ignorance displayed by MAGAs on this topic is amazing.

Many American areas limit the % of properties that can be short term or vacation rentals to prevent that market from driving up local housing costs to unsustainable levels.

I imagine areas in Mexico will also enact similar ordinances, as the impacts avoided in the US by such restriction and regulation around rentals has not yet been addressed there.

AirBnB and VRBO are too tempting for Mexican landlords in tourist destinations.
I'm guilty of supporting that myself, I've spent months in Mexico in short-term rentals.

 

[j brown's body]

MSN

Story by AFP
Hundreds of protesters marched through the Mexican capital on Friday denouncing gentrification caused by foreigners, with some vandalizing businesses and shouting "gringos out!"

The demonstration in the capital's central area turned violent when hooded individuals smashed windows, damaged restaurant furniture and looted a clothing store.

Mexico City's government secretary Cesar Cravioto said 15 businesses and public facilities were damaged in what he called "xenophobic expressions" similar to what Mexican migrants have suffered in other countries.

"We are a city of open arms… there are always ways to negotiate, to sit at the table," Cravioto told Milenio television.

Neighborhoods like Roma-Condesa have since 2020, amid the COVID-19 pandemic, seen an influx of foreigners, mostly young Americans working remotely and attracted by lower living costs.

Their arrival has driven up rent prices considerably, forcing Mexican residents to move to more affordable areas.

"Housing is a right, not a commodity," read placards carried by the mostly young protesters.

As they passed street-side restaurants, some demonstrators heckled American diners, who either ignored them or left, AFP witnessed.

"Mexico for Mexicans," "Pay taxes, learn Spanish, respect my culture," and "gringo go home" were among other protest slogans.

Roma-Condesa, a bohemian sector of the Mexican capital, has been particularly affected by gentrification. While previous demonstrations against the phenomenon have occurred in Mexico City, this was the largest protest so far.

Mexico is home to one-fifth of the five million expatriates counted by the Association of Americans Resident Overseas in 2023.

The march also comes as US President Donald Trump intensifies his crackdown against illegal immigrants in the United States.

Comment:
This is just too funny.
I am petty sure that the American immigrants have crossed their border legally.
I am sure that the American immigrants are not practicing gang warfare or spraying graffiti on everything.
I bet that the American immigrants are not using the Mexican welfare benefits.
I bet that they are not voting in their election.

We used to like to think we were better than that.

 

[BirdinHand]

AirBnB and VRBO are too tempting for Mexican landlords in tourist destinations.
I'm guilty of supporting that myself, I've spent months in Mexico in short-term rentals.

I have friends that have done the same thing - it is quite easy to do.

And I suspect parts of Mexico will begin to limit the % of properties that can be short term rentals, etc to stop the gentrification.

They almost have to.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Hard to blame them, given Americans' general attitude toward Mexicans (while at the same time happy to cross the border and take advantage of cheap pharmaceuticals and medical procedures they can't afford at home).

 

[ElChupacabra]

Who exactly are "those people"?

The "rich" you referenced in your post I responded to.

Anyone who enters the housing market increases demand, which naturally affects prices. Are you saying people should be stopped from buying homes simply because their participation might make things more expensive for others?

No, that's not what I'm saying. However, the displacement of locals in favor of rich foreigners tends to go over like a lead balloon. Some of the tools available is rent control to help keep locals in their homes.

Are you going to base the restrictions on race, skin color, or ethnicity?

Nope. Not sure where you got that idea from either.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

The demonstration in the capital's central area turned violent when hooded individuals smashed windows, damaged restaurant furniture and looted a clothing store.

Brilliant!

You think you have a problem with "Gringos", so smash up Mexican owned businesses.

How do I know they are Mexican owned? Because Mexican law is such that only Mexicans can own property in "restricted zones" and these restaurants and stores are in such places where almost all non-Mexicans visit or reside [mostly near the shore and resort areas].

Don't get me wrong. I am NOT taking a stance one way or the other on their right to feel as they might feel on the subject. I am commenting on the idiocy of destroying their own property to state their case on how they feel about it.