Mexican presidential elections: The firebrand on Bush's doorstep (1 Viewer)

[danarhea]

Today's poll in Mexico shows the Socialist now ahead in the presidential race there.

Granted, the push towards Socialism south of our border did not begin as a reaction to Bush himself, but there is no doubt that Bush, as well as Clinton, and all other presidents back to JFK, are responsible. How? By supporting corrupt and brutal dictators who killed their own people. The blowback began with the Chavez victory in Venezuela, as well as the abortive coup attempt there which was supported by the United States. The blowback has now become the firestorm which is sweeping across both Central and South America.

Interference in the political processes of other nations eventually results in the loss of the region to forces which are not politically aligned with us. We may espouse Democracy in words, but our deeds show otherwise. This hypocrisy is not lost on the rest of the world. If we had only walked the walk instead of just talking the talk, while attempting to undermine the democratic forces which were at work, the nations south of our border could have been Capitalist allies instead of Socialist adversaries. We did this to ourselves, and because of our own behavior, we are now losing the battle.

Venezuela, Brazil, Bolivia, Chile, and now possibly Mexico. The dominos are falling, folks, and we have only ourselves to blame. Their revolution will soon be at our own doorstep.

Article is here.

 

[Kandahar]

In terms of American geopolitical interests, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Latin Amerca is almost entirely irrelevant to our concerns. People like Hugo Chavez are most definitely obnoxious jackasses with questionable commitments to democracy, but they aren't a serious threat to American interests. In fact, Bush's reaction is the one feather in his cap in terms of foreign policy: He simply ignores Chavez entirely, as he should.

I don't know much about Mexican politics, but even among socialist governments not all are the same. Countries like Brazil and Argentina may have socialist governments, but they aren't virulently antagonistic toward American interests in the way that Venezuela and Cuba are. Bolivia is somewhere in between. So don't assume that just because Mexico might elect a socialist, that he'll be in the Hugo Chavez mold.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Let the socialists have take another shot at trying to make their system work... The best strategy is to let a system that cant stand up on its own 2 legs try anyways...

 

[Calm2Chaos]

Today's poll in Mexico shows the Socialist now ahead in the presidential race there.

Granted, the push towards Socialism south of our border did not begin as a reaction to Bush himself, but there is no doubt that Bush, as well as Clinton, and all other presidents back to JFK, are responsible. How? By supporting corrupt and brutal dictators who killed their own people. The blowback began with the Chavez victory in Venezuela, as well as the abortive coup attempt there which was supported by the United States. The blowback has now become the firestorm which is sweeping across both Central and South America.

Interference in the political processes of other nations eventually results in the loss of the region to forces which are not politically aligned with us. We may espouse Democracy in words, but our deeds show otherwise. This hypocrisy is not lost on the rest of the world. If we had only walked the walk instead of just talking the talk, while attempting to undermine the democratic forces which were at work, the nations south of our border could have been Capitalist allies instead of Socialist adversaries. We did this to ourselves, and because of our own behavior, we are now losing the battle.

Venezuela, Brazil, Bolivia, Chile, and now possibly Mexico. The dominos are falling, folks, and we have only ourselves to blame. Their revolution will soon be at our own doorstep.

Article is here.

ANother reason to get the wall up quickly.. Lets add another 10 feet to the height. I am not really sure what revolution your talking of. This country isn't going socialist in my lifetime or my kids or there kids probably. But change is innevitable. Sooner or later we may very well turn into the welfare state so many people actually want us to be.

We are constantly meddling in ****. I think we need to allow countries to rise and fall on there own. It does us no good to be involved with these countries. In the end it just costs us more. If they make it great if they fall then they just have to figure out how to rebuild. IMagine the money we would save. We would actually be able to take care of Americans

 

[Deegan]

Dan, my brother from another Mother, you have got to stop reading that RawStory crap, it's rotting your brain. If you don't think corruption is present in these "Socialist" governments, and that this is somehow our fault, or our doing, you are just not doing your homework. Sure we made some bad moves, and we were guilty of trying to look after our own best interests in that region, but their problems were there long before we interfered, and will be there for some time to come. Socialism sounds good, but as I said, if you think this will end corruption, you're just kidding yourself.

And no, I did not read your article, I refuse to read anything more from Raw story, it's not at all responsible or reliable as a news source.

 

[zymurgy]

Dan, my brother from another Mother, you have got to stop reading that RawStory crap, it's rotting your brain. If you don't think corruption is present in these "Socialist" governments, and that this is somehow our fault, or our doing, you are just not doing your homework. Sure we made some bad moves, and we were guilty of trying to look after our own best interests in that region, but their problems were there long before we interfered, and will be there for some time to come. Socialism sounds good, but as I said, if you think this will end corruption, you're just kidding yourself.

And no, I did not read your article, I refuse to read anything more from Raw story, it's not at all responsible or reliable as a news source.

Unskilled American workers make more then 10 times their South American counterparts.

Goverment corruption is only a part of the reason. The impact our fiat monetray policy has on other nations can't be ignored.

Well...actually it can, since nearly every American does ignore it. :doh

 

[danarhea]

Unskilled American workers make more then 10 times their South American counterparts.

Goverment corruption is only a part of the reason. The impact our fiat monetray policy has on other nations can't be ignored.

Well...actually it can, since nearly every American does ignore it. :doh

You do have a point in that the economic shoe is not far from falling. When it does, it would have been nice to have those nations south of the border on our side, but we abused them badly, supporting all kinds of corrupt dictators. They are not so friendly today because they do have memories.

Fiat currency is the greatest danger to our republic at this time. Money from nothing.... Well, actually from something.... Debt, which is worse than nothing.