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Mexican Police to Patrol NY?

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So what does everyone think of THIS?


NEW YORK, New York — In a series of events which has caused wide notice and a storm of protests, the government of Mexico, through its consulate in New York in the United Nations, has announced it will begin patrolling the New York City borough of Staten Island to “safeguard” its nationals there.
The actions of Mexico come after a series of incidents the Mexican government terms “bias attacks.”
Ironically, these so-called “hate crimes” have been perpetrated by blacks and Asians, indicative of rising tensions between various ethnic groups in the U.S. The Catholic Examiner and NBC New York both reported the Mexican government’s intention to mount surveillance, patrol and police in and around the Staten Island community of Port Richmond, which in recent years has seen a large influx of Mexican illegal immigrants.

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I think it's funny considering they have no jurisdiction off the Consulate grounds.
 

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Well good for them.

America does the exact same thing in many foreign nations. I'm not sure why this is strange.
 

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Well good for them.

America does the exact same thing in many foreign nations. I'm not sure why this is strange.
Examples of this? I have lived in several countries (and currently do) and have never seen American officials patrolling the streets...
 

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Is there another source for this?
 

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Ironically, these so-called “hate crimes” have been perpetrated by blacks and Asians
What's ironic about that?
 

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Examples of this? I have lived in several countries (and currently do) and have never seen American officials patrolling the streets...
Go to Iraq.

Seriously though in areas of some African or South Asian we have security forces which patrol in and around the American interest. Corporations, embassies, hospitals that service these. They might not be uniformed - and I don't think these Mexicans are - nor do they have rights - which these Mexicans don't, however it is common.

Plus why is it wrong for Mexico to take an interest in protecting it's citizens.
 

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Go to Iraq.

Seriously though in areas of some African or South Asian we have security forces which patrol in and around the American interest. Corporations, embassies, hospitals that service these. They might not be uniformed - and I don't think these Mexicans are - nor do they have rights - which these Mexicans don't, however it is common.

Plus why is it wrong for Mexico to take an interest in protecting it's citizens.
Not to mention it already happens with other countries embassies and so on in the US, plus of course the UN.
 

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So anyhoots, this is a big non-story. The mexican cops have no right/juristiction to "patrol" anywhere outside their little embassy, so it's a non-issue.
 

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Around many of the consulate building here in NYC you see security details. They check out restaurants, deal with any issues natives of their country may face in this country, in courts, banking, and a number of issues. If Mexicans approached their embassy I'm sure it has means to help them, and this is in NYC so it's not that far from their embassy.
 

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Around many of the consulate building here in NYC you see security details. They check out restaurants, deal with any issues natives of their country may face in this country, in courts, banking, and a number of issues. If Mexicans approached their embassy I'm sure it has means to help them, and this is in NYC so it's not that far from their embassy.
You mean like passing out booklets on how to enter, work and live in the USA Illegally? Yeah, they do that.
 

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Why not, serves their interest. It's no worse than the US passing out guns.
 

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Got any proof of this?
New York Times, 6 January 2005

A Mexican Manual for Illegal Migrants Upsets Some in U.S.

By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.

MEXICO CITY, Jan. 5 - The Mexican government drew fire from American advocates of tighter borders on Wednesday for publishing a pamphlet [below] that instructs migrants how to safely enter the United States illegally and live there without being detected.

Officials here say the small booklet, illustrated in comic-book style, is not intended to encourage illegal immigration, but to reduce the loss of life. Last year, more than 300 migrants died while crossing rivers and deserts to reach the United States.

The guidebook also advises would-be migrants to avoid hiring professional immigrant-smugglers and to refuse to carry packages for others. It also instructs people never to lie to border officials, carry false documents or resist arrest.
Mexican Guide for Illegal Migrants to US
 

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Why not, serves their interest. It's no worse than the US passing out guns.
Do you live in reality? Where in the US does the Government... "pass out guns"?

Some people...
 

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Maybe you should read up on the history of Africa. Ever wonder why Somali has guns and tanks? Or Ethiopia? Or Angola? We had this little thing called the "cold war", in which we tossed around guns to insurgents all over the globe - just because it was "within our interest".

So a handbook on how to gain employment in cleaning my condo... hardly as frightening.
 

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From the article
"The guidebook also advises would-be migrants to avoid hiring professional immigrant-smugglers and to refuse to carry packages for others. It also instructs people never to lie to border officials, carry false documents or resist arrest."

Yes, that sounds...just so terrible.

I fail to see why the Mexican government would publish this to encourage undocumented immigration. It doesnt really benefit them and it really isnt their problem.
 

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From the article
"The guidebook also advises would-be migrants to avoid hiring professional immigrant-smugglers and to refuse to carry packages for others. It also instructs people never to lie to border officials, carry false documents or resist arrest."

Yes, that sounds...just so terrible.

I fail to see why the Mexican government would publish this to encourage undocumented immigration. It doesnt really benefit them and it really isnt their problem.
Selective reading at it's best. :roll:
But groups favoring stricter immigration controls said the pamphlet amounted to a how-to manual for illegal immigrants. The booklet gives advice on what clothes to wear when fording a river and how to cross a desert without getting dehydrated.

It also counsels migrants to keep a low profile once in the United States, telling them, for instance, to stay away from loud parties or discos that might be raided by the police and to stay out of domestic disputes, which might lead to an arrest. Finally, it lists what rights migrants have if caught, among them safe transport home, medical care, food and water.

"This is not the action of a friendly neighbor," said Representative Tom Tancredo, the Colorado Republican who chairs the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus. "What would the Mexican government say if we encouraged our citizens to violate Mexican law?"
 

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You know America has these same handbooks. We have handbooks on what to expect if you visit every single country without papers, and how to protect yourself, and how to get out. I'm not sure why a nation protecting it's people is wrong. Mexico has no onus towards America.
 

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You know America has these same handbooks. We have handbooks on what to expect if you visit every single country without papers, and how to protect yourself, and how to get out. I'm not sure why a nation protecting it's people is wrong. Mexico has no onus towards America.
Yeah, you must have missed the part about
"What would the Mexican government say if we encouraged our citizens to violate Mexican law?"
Personally I think making illegal entry a capital crime would solve many problems very quickly.
 

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But our country does indeed tell it's citizens how to avoid police and even if the nation is substitutable to bribes! Go read some of the CIA warnings on some African nations, they all but say "hey throw em a 20$ and your golden!"
 

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I dont see anything that encourages the violation of American law.
Of course you don't.

“Guide for the Mexican Migrant” takes this a step further, not only explaining the dangers, but also explaining how to get around them.
In addition to warning that “crossing the river can be very risky,” the guide explains that the way to get around this is to avoid big clothing. “Heavy clothing grows heavier when wet, and this makes it difficult to swim or float,” the pamphlet reads. It goes on to counsel migrants that “drinking water mixed with salt will help to replace lost body fluids” and prevent dehydration while crossing the desert. Those who find themselves lost are advised to “use power lines, train tracks or dirt roads as guides.”

These phrases are clearly not aimed at discouraging migrants. Rather, those who may have been previously discouraged may feel more secure sneaking across the border with the booklet’s advice in hand.
If this isn’t blatant enough, the booklet also includes advice on how to avoid being detected once migrants have successfully crossed the border. These suggestions include avoiding “loud parties,” “fights” and “domestic violence,” and encourage migrants not to divulge their migratory status if questioned by authorities.

These are clearly not instructions from a government that wishes to prevent its citizens from illegally entering the United States, which is fitting considering that Mexico has historically encouraged its citizens to migrate.

As Harvard Professor Samuel Huntington explains in his book on immigration, “Who Are We?” this is because Mexicans working in the United States make a significant contribution to the economy of Mexico by sending all their earnings home.

According to Huntington, “the Mexican government estimated that (money sent from the U.S. to Mexico) would increase by 35 percent in 2001, exceed $9 billion and probably replace tourism as Mexico’s second largest source of foreign exchange after oil exports.”
It’s clear that the Mexican government has something to be gained from illegal migration and has, since the 1980s, promoted the idea of dual nationalities for those who are willing to sneak themselves across the American border.

In fact, Mexican President Vicente Fox described these people in 2000 as “heroes” for having left the country in search of opportunity and for their contribution to the Mexican economy”.
The Graphic - Guide promotes illegal immigration
 

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Go to Iraq.

Seriously though in areas of some African or South Asian we have security forces which patrol in and around the American interest. Corporations, embassies, hospitals that service these. They might not be uniformed - and I don't think these Mexicans are - nor do they have rights - which these Mexicans don't, however it is common.

Plus why is it wrong for Mexico to take an interest in protecting it's citizens.
The soldiers in Iraq are not there to ensure the security of U.S. citizens. They are there to promote a stable Iraq. BTW, combat troops have left and only support troops remain.

As for those other countries, you will have to give a credible link to show that U.S. officials are patrolling the streets to ensure the security of American citizens.
 
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