men that do not want to have sex with women are misogynists

[Bodi]

-https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-rage-of-the-incels

 

[Sweden]

I do not agree that male homosexuality and misogyny are the same thing. Is this really your position?

 

[soylentgreen]

I do not agree that male homosexuality and misogyny are the same thing. Is this really your position?

Although the link was incorrectly filed, it is not that hard to figure out he is referring to a specific group of men ( incels) who have problems relating with women for various reasons.

And no, he is using a broad brush but an understandable one. Because it is a sub set of the incel group that do hate women for again various neurotic reasons And that subset is the most vocal and recognised set among incels.
The quiet ones are those that have trouble relating to women because of extreme shyness or trauma in childhood etc. not because they hate women.

 

[CLAX1911]

I do not agree that male homosexuality and misogyny are the same thing. Is this really your position?

Well a man that doesn't want to have sex with a woman is not necessarily homosexual. Homosexual man wants to have sex with other men and that really wasn't part of this.

 

[CLAX1911]

Although the link was incorrectly filed, it is not that hard to figure out he is referring to a specific group of men ( incels) who have problems relating with women for various reasons.

And no, he is using a broad brush but an understandable one. Because it is a sub set of the incel group that do hate women for again various neurotic reasons And that subset is the most vocal and recognised set among incels.
The quiet ones are those that have trouble relating to women because of extreme shyness or trauma in childhood etc. not because they hate women.

Well and incel would be a man that wants to have sex with a woman that can't.

Incel means and voluntarily celibate meaning it's not voluntary.

 

[choiceone]

Incels hate and disrespect women even though they want to have sex with them. They hate it that attractive liberal/left women won't go out with them because they do want the sex. But wanting sex with someone has nothing to do with genuinely liking and respecting them. It has to do with lust and for incels it may have something to do with wanting to subjugate them. Ick.

 

[CLAX1911]

Incels hate and disrespect women even though they want to have sex with them. They hate it that attractive liberal/left women won't go out with them because they do want the sex. But wanting sex with someone has nothing to do with genuinely liking and respecting them. It has to do with lust and for incels it may have something to do with wanting to subjugate them. Ick.

But voluntarily opting out is a smart move for young men and I wouldn't say that it's a misogynistic that they don't want to date women.

 

[choiceone]

But voluntarily opting out is a smart move for young men and I wouldn't say that it's a misogynistic that they don't want to date women.

Incels do want to date women. The term incel means "involuntarily celibate." They are angry that there are pretty women who don't agree to go out with them. So now we actually have a group of guys who believe that they have a right to date a woman regardless of her right not to. Let's call it the "soft rape" orientation.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Incels are a hoot. You can just sit back and watch them deteriorate.

 

[CLAX1911]

Incels do want to date women. The term incel means "involuntarily celibate."

If that's all you're talking abouti think you're missing the point.

 

[choiceone]

If that's all you're talking abouti think you're missing the point.

No, you're missing the point. That's what an incel IS, that's the definition of an incel. If they were voluntarily celibate, as I have been, they would be vocels. They hate being celibate. They just want to go out with pretty girls, appreciate them for their looks, and f--- them. Ick.

 

[CLAX1911]

No, you're missing the point. That's what an incel IS, that's the definition of an incel.

The title of this thread is men who don't want to have sex with women. That really eliminates incels from the discussion.

 

[KevinKohler]

Aren't conservatives always say, responsibility means not having sex, ever, unless you're prepared to have kids, or more kids?

Wouldn't that make incels more relating and relatable to concervatives?

 

[choiceone]

Aren't conservatives always say, responsibility means not having sex, ever, unless you're prepared to have kids, or more kids?

Wouldn't that make incels more relating and relatable to concervatives?

Incels ARE conservatives, as far as I know. But they aren't men that don't want to have sex with women. They really are just misogynists.

This op is about, if you don't want to have sex with women, are you are misogynist? I don't see the connection at all. Perhaps you don't want to have sex with anyone. That means your anti-sex, not anti-woman. Perhaps you prefer having sex with men, because you're gay, but your best friend is a woman - you're just not sexually attracted. Why would anyone think that's misogyny?

 

[Grasshopper121212]

Aren't conservatives always say, responsibility means not having sex, ever, unless you're prepared to have kids, or more kids?

Wouldn't that make incels more relating and relatable to concervatives?

You are assuming that conservatives are the only group that are religious? The religious say that a person should be married before having sexual relations with one of the opposite sex that could end up in a pregnancy. There's nothing in that statement that says a man hates a woman because they wait to be married to have sex.

 

[KevinKohler]

You are assuming that conservatives are the only group that are religious? The religious say that a person should be married before having sexual relations with one of the opposite sex that could end up in a pregnancy. There's nothing in that statement that says a man hates a woman because they wait to be married to have sex.

Nah. The conservatives here don't care about marriage. Only that one shouldn't have sex unless they're ready willing and able to have and care for children.

 

[Grasshopper121212]

Nah. The conservatives here don't care about marriage. Only that one shouldn't have sex unless they're ready willing and able to have and care for children.

Since I'm a conservative, I'll have to straighten you out. Marriage is ordained of God and sexual relations are for those who are married only. When married, they should attempt to have children and hopefully be able to financially take care of them. They are responsible for children under their parenting. Not the Government nor School Boards.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Incels hate and disrespect women even though they want to have sex with them. They hate it that attractive liberal/left women won't go out with them because they do want the sex. But wanting sex with someone has nothing to do with genuinely liking and respecting them. It has to do with lust and for incels it may have something to do with wanting to subjugate them. Ick.

I am not at all sure that incels make political distinctions where an attractive woman is concerned.

 

[KevinKohler]

Since I'm a conservative, I'll have to straighten you out. Marriage is ordained of God and sexual relations are for those who are married only. When married, they should attempt to have children and hopefully be able to financially take care of them. They are responsible for children under their parenting. Not the Government nor School Boards.

Don't look at me, bro. Take it up with your fellow concervatives.

 

[Grasshopper121212]

Don't look at me, bro. Take it up with your fellow concervatives.

I'm taking it up with liberals whether veterans or non-veterans.

 

[HK.227]

Aren't conservatives always say, responsibility means not having sex, ever, unless you're prepared to have kids, or more kids?

Wouldn't that make incels more relating and relatable to concervatives?

Nope. Incels want sexual redistribution, which could make them socialists.
However, they are INvoluntarily celibate, which is not a particularly socialist trait, so their political affiliation is undisclosed.

 

[ChrisIsLeft]

I do not agree that male homosexuality and misogyny are the same thing. Is this really your position?

It's a troll LOL

 

[ChrisIsLeft]

Nope. Incels want sexual redistribution, which could make them socialists.
However, they are INvoluntarily celibate, which is not a particularly socialist trait, so their political affiliation is undisclosed.

They are libertarians, duh

 

[HK.227]

They are libertarians, duh

Hint: "Undisclosed" is also a DP profile option.

 

[jamesrage]

-https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-rage-of-the-incels

Men that don't want to have sex with women are gay. Some gay people might hate women, but I am sure most don't/ As far as I know incels do want to have sex with women. They just can't get any woman who wants to have sex with someone who is butt ugly, super nerdy or super dorky.