Men should have no say

[Bodi]

Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?

 

[Noodlegawd]

Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?

Unless you think we should have no laws whatsoever regarding abortions, of course they should.

 

[Cardinal]

Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?

Define “have a say.” Literally have a say? Well sure. If you live in a country with the right to free speech you have a right to say. Did you intend something beyond that, though?

 

[Bodi]

Unless you think we should have no laws whatsoever regarding abortions, of course they should.

You did not answer the question. Why should a man have any say or ability to make a law forcing a woman to do this or that about her body?

 

[Bodi]

Define “have a say.” Literally have a say? Well sure. If you live in a country with the right to free speech you have a right to say. Did you intend something beyond that, though?

Thought it was pretty obvious that "have a say" meant making a law or being able to stop a woman from her decision...

Obviously people have Freedom of Speech. Why would anybody listen the the man though unless she wanted to.

 

[Cardinal]

Thought it was pretty obvious that "have a say" meant making a law or being able to stop a woman from her decision...

Obviously people have Freedom of Speech. Why would anybody listen the the man though unless she wanted to.

Then your OP is an oxymoron since it would no longer be the woman’s choice. The correct phrasing of the question would then be “Should a man decide if a woman can be allowed to have an abortion?”

 

[MamboDervish]

Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?

I don't think either gender - men, women, nor anyone in between - should have any say, or make any laws, abridging a woman's choice to have an abortion. It's her body, it's her choice, end of story.

 

[Noodlegawd]

You did not answer the question. Why should a man have any say or ability to make a law forcing a woman to do this or that about her body?

That wasn't the question. Read your own question before you tell me I didn't answer it.

 

[Individual]

A say, sure, but ONLY the individual Woman has a Right to make the choice.
Yes and No.

 

[Bodi]

Then your OP is an oxymoron since it would no longer be the woman’s choice.

That is the whole point.

The correct phrasing of the question would then be “Should a man decide if a woman can be allowed to have an abortion?”

Nope. I am stating that men should have no say, and consequently have no ability to write a law, about a woman's choice to abort.

 

[Bodi]

That wasn't the question. Read your own question before you tell me I didn't answer it.

It was... You are saying that if there are laws then men should have a say... I am saying that men should have no say.

 

[Cardinal]

That is the whole point.

Nope. I am stating that men should have no say, and consequently have no ability to write a law, about a woman's choice to abort.

Your question in the OP was “Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?” Since you clarified that the decision at that point would not be the woman’s choice, then making it about her choice is inaccurate since the ultimate decision would fall to the man and not the man. Therefore, the correction phrasing of the question really is “Should a man decide if a woman can be allowed to have an abortion?” since the woman’s choice is not relevant to what is and isn’t decided.

 

[Noodlegawd]

It was... You are saying that if there are laws then men should have a say... I am saying that men should have no say.

Naturally if there are laws, men should have a say. Our laws are made by elected officials, and many of them are men.

 

[Top Cat]

Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?

**** no

 

[phoenix2020]

Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?

Since "have a say" colloquially means "to have an opinion or vote" then the answer is yes, a person's gender should not infringe on their ability to express an opinion or vote on any topic.

If by "have a say" you meant something more precise, please provide a more precise definition and I'll be happy to revisit the topic.

 

[Bodi]

Your question in the OP was “Should men, especially lawmakers, be allowed to have any say in a woman's choice to have an abortion?” Since you clarified that the decision at that point would not be the woman’s choice, then making it about her choice is inaccurate since the ultimate decision would fall to the man and not the man. Therefore, the correction phrasing of the question really is “Should a man decide if a woman can be allowed to have an abortion?” since the woman’s choice is not relevant to what is and isn’t decided.

That is the point... if it is his choice it is not her choice... not sure why they is so difficult....

 

[Bodi]

Naturally if there are laws, men should have a say.

Why?

 

[Bodi]

Since "have a say" colloquially means "to have an opinion or vote" then the answer is yes, a person's gender should not infringe on their ability to express an opinion or vote on any topic.

If by "have a say" you meant something more precise, please provide a more precise definition and I'll be happy to revisit the topic.

Why should men have a vote to oppress women and deny their right to abort?

 

[ApersonLIKEallOFyou]

Why should men have a vote to oppress women and deny their right to abort?

What is a man?

What is a woman?

 

[Bodi]

What is a man?

What is a woman?

Maybe you should go back and read some kindergarten stuff?

 

[ApersonLIKEallOFyou]

Maybe you should go back and read some kindergarten stuff?

Crazy times we're living in, just curious how we define the players in your world. To answer your question, which was really a point that you phrased as a question for some reason, as long as the "say" involved is a law decided on by elected officials then yes, men should have a say.

 

[VanceMack]

If your position is that men should have NO role in the decision of abortion, or the paying for abortions, or the care of the child if the woman chooses to keep it, I'd say OK...if you insist. But that means NO support...no taxpayer dollars...nothing.

 

[phoenix2020]

Why should men have a vote to oppress women and deny their right to abort?

So, you're claiming that nobody should have the right to a vote if that vote deprives someone else of the ability to do something? That's your logic? I'm vehemently pro-choice but your logic is messed up, dude. Try a different angle. Your thread is stupid.

 

[Loulit01]

This all assumes she decides to tell the man she's pregnant. Are we going to pass a law about that, too? Lotsa luck with that.

 

[Nilhus]

The correct phrasing of the question would then be “Should a man decide if a woman can be allowed to have an abortion?”

No, the correct phrasing would be: "Should a woman be allowed to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth without man's consent?"