Melania entered the political fray? Is she fair game for Media?

[JANFU]

My understanding is this argument with Mira and Melania escalated during her trip to Africa not providing support for the First Lady during the trip. Also the First Lady's staff which is relatively small compared to former First Ladies, and her two closest aides are often left off of Air Force One when traveling overseas which Mira has a hand in such plans. They should be on the same plane with the First Lady. I also heard about her undermining Mattis. Will she stay or will she go? My guess she is packing up her office as I type this.

Regardless of the issues she had, the press release was uncalled for, and has put her in the political fray. Prior to this, I would not go after her, now, well fair game.
She made a dumb move

 

[vesper]

Regardless of the issues she had, the press release was uncalled for, and has put her in the political fray. Prior to this, I would not go after her, now, well fair game.
She made a dumb move

Oh please the minute she became First Lady everything she does is scrutinized and trashed. Whether it is the way she decorates the WH on Christmas, what shoes she wears, what is written on her jacket, sending out fun Instagrams over the holidays, her Be Best program, her accent, the hat she wore when welcoming Macrom's to the WH, having a tree cut down that was a hazard planted by Andrew Jackson it doesn't matter they find fault.

If you recall in her ABC interview she revealed there were aides in the WH she did not trust. Well guess what, we now know who one of them is and from what is being reported with good reason.

Edit- the amount of effort our First Lady has put into the opiod crisis is commendable and yet it isn't covered in the mainstream media. I remember Michelle Obama showing up at a fastfood joint working the drive through window and that was dah bomb!

 

[Risky Thicket]

Well sometime you should visit PEI/NS. We on the east coast consider those in Victoria, Vancouver lower mainland to be a tad hyper.

LOL! We didn't notice the hyper. Maybe it was because by coincidence we arrived on the first day of legal pot in Canada. To be honest I don't recall even smelling it anywhere other than in Chinatown. No matter, we didn't detect hyper Canadians either.

We do make it over to Quebec on occasion and have in fact talked about our next trip to Canada including PEI/NS. As things become progressively more ****ty in the US we might find ourselves traveling to Canada sooner rather than later.

 

[joko104]

This is the story:

A deputy director tried to convince Melania Trump to cancel her trip to Africa. He likely stated that was a dangerous area we have few personnel and resources and know little of the area. The dangers of a terrorist attack against her would poise terrible risks and if something did happen likely would put the country at war in Africa. Therefore, she should cancel her trip OR at least follow a very limited schedule he selected.

To this, Melania said no. In her view, the only problem was he would really have to put in a lot of work for this and didn't want to. American officials including Senators and Presidents - and first ladies - have gone to more dangerous areas.

Refusing to accept this, that Deputy Director then tried to get others to try to convince her, all which got WH gossip rolling around, which she did not care for one iota. While she came back alive, she probably had to do last minute changes like he wanted because he hadn't be spending his time doing his job, but rather trying to pressure her and ultimately had forced HIS will and agenda on HER trip.

Yeah, get rid of that guy.

The First Lady does not have to put up with that type manipulation, trickery and gossip mongers in the White House. You know the kind of guy - the guy who always has to tell women what he says is best for her and will insist she follow his advice - meaning demands - because he's the guy and she's a woman who doesn't know much - whispering around bad-mouthing about her as being stupid. That kind of guy.

 

[Myview]

She is fair game in this instance. If she continues to weigh in giving her political opinion in support of her husband she will be increasingly fair game to media scrutiny and criticism.

She gave her political opinion of Brett Kavanaugh parroting her husband. If she continues to get west wing officials canned because she feels slighted it is a sure path to media and political criticism.

 

[Mycroft]

I haven't encountered anyone on here who thinks Barron is "fair game."

I didn't mention anyone from here. If you had actually read my post, you would know I said "multimedia echo chamber".

Dismissed.

 

[Cardinal]

I didn't mention anyone from here. If you had actually read my post, you would know I said "multimedia echo chamber".

Dismissed.

Well I don’t know what kind of scummy websites you frequent where their members trash other people’s kids, but perhaps you’d be more comfortable there than here.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

This is the story:

A deputy director tried to convince Melania Trump to cancel her trip to Africa. He likely stated that was a dangerous area we have few personnel and resources and know little of the area. The dangers of a terrorist attack against her would poise terrible risks and if something did happen likely would put the country at war in Africa. Therefore, she should cancel her trip OR at least follow a very limited schedule he selected.

To this, Melania said no. In her view, the only problem was he would really have to put in a lot of work for this and didn't want to. American officials including Senators and Presidents - and first ladies - have gone to more dangerous areas.

Refusing to accept this, that Deputy Director then tried to get others to try to convince her, all which got WH gossip rolling around, which she did not care for one iota. While she came back alive, she probably had to do last minute changes like he wanted because he hadn't be spending his time doing his job, but rather trying to pressure her and ultimately had forced HIS will and agenda on HER trip.

Yeah, get rid of that guy.

The First Lady does not have to put up with that type manipulation, trickery and gossip mongers in the White House. You know the kind of guy - the guy who always has to tell women what he says is best for her and will insist she follow his advice - meaning demands - because he's the guy and she's a woman who doesn't know much - whispering around bad-mouthing about her as being stupid. That kind of guy.

The person in question is a woman, not a man. If you can't even be bothered to understand the basics of the story, you'll understand if the rest of your post isn't taken seriously.

 

[Amelia]

No it does not. Not unless you say Trump being a bully is something she has to answer for.
Why does anyone want to make her 'fair game' anyway? Not like she's ever going to be allowed to have any significance.

Well, from my perspective, I didn't want to make her fair game.

I was willing to bite my tongue when stories about her came up, trying to give her the benefit of the doubt even as she preached about anti-bullying without addressing the elephantine orange bully in the room, for example.

But between her referring to herself as the most bullied person in the world and today's brazen political hit job on a civil servant, there is no more need to give her the special consideration which is usually suggested for the nonpolitical family members of political figures.

 

[Amelia]

Technically she campaigned for Trump in 2000, when she appeared with him while he campaigned for that year's Reform Party presidential nomination.

In November 2015, she was asked about her husband's presidential campaign and replied: "I encouraged him because I know what he will do and what he can do for America. He loves the American people and he wants to help them."

In July 2016, she gave a speech at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

Campaigning for one's spouse isn't enough to move a family member into the political fair game realm.

But it's moot now, since she has squarely placed herself in that realm now with today's shockingly inappropriate move.

 

[Atomic Kid]

This is the story:

A deputy director tried to convince Melania Trump to cancel her trip to Africa. He likely stated that was a dangerous area we have few personnel and resources and know little of the area. The dangers of a terrorist attack against her would poise terrible risks and if something did happen likely would put the country at war in Africa. Therefore, she should cancel her trip OR at least follow a very limited schedule he selected.

To this, Melania said no. In her view, the only problem was he would really have to put in a lot of work for this and didn't want to. American officials including Senators and Presidents - and first ladies - have gone to more dangerous areas.

Refusing to accept this, that Deputy Director then tried to get others to try to convince her, all which got WH gossip rolling around, which she did not care for one iota. While she came back alive, she probably had to do last minute changes like he wanted because he hadn't be spending his time doing his job, but rather trying to pressure her and ultimately had forced HIS will and agenda on HER trip.

Yeah, get rid of that guy.

The First Lady does not have to put up with that type manipulation, trickery and gossip mongers in the White House. You know the kind of guy - the guy who always has to tell women what he says is best for her and will insist she follow his advice - meaning demands - because he's the guy and she's a woman who doesn't know much - whispering around bad-mouthing about her as being stupid. That kind of guy.

That's not 'the story' That's some sort of demented fairy tale.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Back in ‘08, Barack got a lot of black women votes because of Michelle. I remember reading about it because then abandoned Hilllary. And it wasn’t because they liked Barack.

Michelle was the Democrats mistake, had they dropped Hilary, drafted Michelle, she'd be president today. Michelle draws far more than other black women. However, I believe she rejects the petty nonsense American politics has descended into.

 

[OldFatGuy]

No matter, we didn't detect hyper Canadians either.

I can introduce you to some real hyper Canadians. Some of them say "I'm sorry" at least 4-5 times at each opportunity. The others play ice hockey.

 

[Winchester]

Thing is she was a problem child, well according to the press.
More info in the link
Regardless, Melania IMHO is fair game. Unless I am convinced otherwise. I previously considered her off limits. Now, no

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...le-main_trumpricardel-345p:homepage/story-ans

Three current and two former White House officials said Tuesday that Ricardel had berated people in meetings, yelled at professional staff, argued with the first lady and spread rumors about Mattis.

Ricardel should have known better, it's the President's prerogative to do these things, not the help.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Well I don’t know what kind of scummy websites you frequent where their members trash other people’s kids, but perhaps you’d be more comfortable there than here.

The NYT, The Boston Globe, The Philadelphia Enquirer, CNN, and many other Democrat mouthpieces. You called them what they are.

 

[TurtleDude]

If Michelle Obama acted like Melanoma , the far right would be screeching for her arrest. Oh wait - they screeched over EVERYTHING Michelle said or did. Remember the outrage over her sleeveless dress. The far right called her a whore for exposing her shoulders. And now they praise the porn pictures of Melanoma. Hypocrites much?

so you are acting as bad or worse

bravo for you

 

[Hawkeye10]

The NYT, The Boston Globe, The Philadelphia Enquirer, CNN, and many other Democrat mouthpieces. You called them what they are.

HI FATMAN!

How is it hanging man?

Such a shame how the journalists decided to fail America.

 

[lurchadams]

Melania entered the political fray? Is she fair game for Media?
My thoughts are by going public with an official press release prior to one being fired, stating they do not deserve to serve in the WH, well she has entered the fray


https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...-aide-no-longer-deserves-the-honor-of-serving



Yes – Explain

No – Explain

Unsure – Explain

Well, yeah, she's a public figure. She chose to be first lady and like it or not, she's fair game for public scrutiny. I think most non-conservatives are smart enough to know where the line is of propriety regarding any criticism of Melania, of course. I say that because liberals strive to be fair and civil. All conservatives care about is winning elections, and holding on to power. If they have to offend and lie in order to do it, so be it. The existence of the trump administration and the GOP senate proves my point.

 

[OldFatGuy]

HI FATMAN!

How is it hanging man?

Such a shame how the journalists decided to fail America.

A bit rough with my leg. Getting a new pacemaker/defib after Thanksgiving, in one day and overnight, then home. Should make things much better with more strength.

And, Yes, many times over.

Be well yourself.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Well, yeah, she's a public figure. She chose to be first lady and like it or not, she's fair game for public scrutiny. I think most non-conservatives are smart enough to know where the line is of propriety regarding any criticism of Melania, of course. I say that because liberals strive to be fair and civil. All conservatives care about is winning elections, and holding on to power. If they have to offend and lie in order to do it, so be it. The existence of the trump administration and the GOP senate proves my point.

She didn't choose to be first lady. She went along for the ride, standing by her man, you sacrificed your point with that lie.

 

[lurchadams]

She didn't choose to be first lady. She went along for the ride, standing by her man, you sacrificed your point with that lie.

Oh, looks like someone has the hots for the first lady. Look at you and your adorable white-knighting

I didn't sacrifice anything, buddy. What I stated were facts.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Oh, looks like someone has the hots for the first lady. Look at you and your adorable white-knighting

I didn't sacrifice anything, buddy. What I stated were facts.

No. I have a wife I love who fulfills all my needs. You lied when you said she chose to be first lady. Get over yourself.

The woman she wants dismissed is a tough cookie, I doubt you could work with her.

 

[TheParser]

Very sad to hear that Ms. Melania has entered the fray.

As First Lady, her duty is to smile, dress nicely, and keep her mouth shut on controversial topics.

If she did not like a particular White House aide, she should have gently discussed the topic in private with her husband.

Then if the aide was fired, her name would not be attached to the matter.

Therefore, YES, she is now fair game for the media and their so-called "journalists."


*****


I am devastated.


For the last two years, Ms. Melania has been the model First Lady. (Somewhat like my favorite First Lady, Mrs. Richard Nixon.)


At this very divisive time in our country's history, we need a First Lady who acts the role of a nonpartisan Queen (someone like Queen Elizabeth II of England or the Empress of Japan).


Until now, most Americans admired her or were indifferent to her.


She has now opened herself up to criticism from her husband's vulgar and uncouth enemies.



(P.S. I have not heard a peep from Vice President Pence's wife. Now that is one good wife.)

 

[calamity]

That's not 'the story' That's some sort of demented fairy tale.

But, it's probably believed by millions of fairy tale buyers out there.

 

[hanger4]

Campaigning for one's spouse isn't enough to move a family member into the political fair game realm.

But it's moot now, since she has squarely placed herself in that realm now with today's shockingly inappropriate move.

Indorsement moves anybody / everybody into the politically fair game realm, whether we like / agree or not.