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Melania calls for top WH aide to be fired

Rising Sun said:
No, I don't agree. FLOTUS isn't an elected position and has no official powers. The idiots who whined about Michelle don't realize that fact and now we have the flip-side.
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Not sure why you said you don't agree, since from your response, it appears you do agree. FLOTUS isn't an elected job. And FLOTUS shouldn't be calling the shots on National Security issues - including staffing.
 
tres borrachos said:
Not sure why you said you don't agree, since from your response, it appears you do agree. FLOTUS isn't an elected job. And FLOTUS shouldn't be calling the shots on National Security issues - including staffing.
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Agreed. I was disagreeing with your comment defending Hillary and labeling Melania a "porn model": "But in retrospect, at least she was a lawyer. A Slovenian immigrant nude porn model shouldn't be playing politics. "

Perhaps if you put more Reagan into your posts and less Trump, we could find more common ground. :)
 
Rising Sun said:
Agreed. I was disagreeing with your comment defending Hillary and labeling Melania a "porn model": "But in retrospect, at least she was a lawyer. A Slovenian immigrant nude porn model shouldn't be playing politics. "

Perhaps if you put more Reagan into your posts and less Trump, we could find more common ground. :)
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Hillary wasn't a lawyer who was born in the United States to American parents, or Melania wasn't a nude porn model who was born in Slovenia and got her citizenship after marrying a much older millionaire? Which statement is untrue? Better question - which statement would Reagan say is untrue?
 
tres borrachos said:
Hillary wasn't a lawyer who was born in the United States to American parents, or Melania wasn't a nude porn model who was born in Slovenia and got her citizenship after marrying a much older millionaire? Which statement is untrue? Better question - which statement would Reagan say is untrue?
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Good luck with that.
 
Rising Sun said:
Good luck with that.
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So in other words, the statements are true. Thanks for admitting that, not that you needed to. Those are facts and have nothing to do with "defending" anyone.

If I said that Ivanka Trump was born in the United States to an American father, that statement is also irrefutable.
 
tres borrachos said:
So in other words, the statements are true. Thanks for admitting that, not that you needed to. Those are facts and have nothing to do with "defending" anyone.

If I said that Ivanka Trump was born in the United States to an American father, that statement is also irrefutable.
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LOL. Good luck with thinking Kate Upton, Kathy Ireland and any Hollywood actress who shows her tits onscreen is a "nude porn model".

As for Hillary, yes, she's a lawyer and she epitomizes why most people have a low regard for the ethics of lawyers.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1654/honesty-ethics-professions.aspx
 
RileyCoyote said:
Good for her! Make Melania great again!! Love her!
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Sadly the only thing she appears to be good at is being cuckolded. Again and again and again and again and .... But you know the old saying: "When you marry for money, you earn every penny."

I wonder if she believes her husband is having an affair with this woman? That wouldn't surprise me at all, and would explain why she is going public.

And Trump, he's such a complete beta snowflake, so maybe doing this to his wife makes him feel like more of a man.
 
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tres borrachos said:
What do Kate Upton and Kathy Ireland have to do with the First Lady of the United States?

Thanks for agreeing that Hillary is a lawyer.
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They're models who've shown their boobs. Same for many Hollywood female stars, people you'd consider "nude porn models". Why do you ask?

BTW, toss in Chelsea Handler and any woman who shows her boobs in protest....at least according to the prudes who think showing boobs makes a woman a whore or ****.
 
Rising Sun said:
They're models who've shown their boobs. Same for many Hollywood female stars, people you'd consider "nude porn models". Why do you ask?
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I may have missed this, but are they also married to the President, current or past? If so, then yes, they're relevant to this discussion. If not, then they have nothing to do with what we are discussing here.
 
tres borrachos said:
I may have missed this, but are they also married to the President, current or past? If so, then yes, they're relevant to this discussion. If not, then they have nothing to do with what we are discussing here.
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Maybe I misunderstood. Are you saying a woman who shows her boobs as a model or actress isn't a "nude porn model", whore or **** unless they're married to a President or just a RW President? Please define your criteria for labeling a woman a "nude porn model", whore or **** so I can better understand your point.
 
Rising Sun said:
Maybe I misunderstood. Are you saying a woman who shows her boobs as a model or actress isn't a "nude porn model", whore or **** unless they're married to a President or just a RW President? Please define your criteria for labeling a woman a "nude porn model", whore or **** so I can better understand your point.
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I'm talking about Melania Trump versus Hillary Clinton. I'm talk about the First Lady - any First Lady - ignorantly making personnel decisions in our National Security Department. I mentioned Clinton because another poster mentioned her. Nobody mentioned Kathy Ireland because of what I just explained to you. Perhaps you should have followed the posts from my first post in this thread, and then this would be crystal clear to you.

What is it you didn't understand?

And spare me the "RW President" nonsense. I've been a registered Republican since 1980. If a left wing or a right wing President, prior to or subsequent to that unprincipled fraud currently occupying the Oval Office, happens to be or have been married to a nude model, I will point that out as well. Especially one who isn't even born an American.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm talking about Melania Trump versus Hillary Clinton. I'm talk about the First Lady - any First Lady - ignorantly making personnel decisions in our National Security Department. I mentioned Clinton because another poster mentioned her. Nobody mentioned Kathy Ireland because of what I just explained to you. Perhaps you should have followed the posts from my first post in this thread, and then this would be crystal clear to you.

What is it you didn't understand?

And spare me the "RW President" nonsense. I've been a registered Republican since 1980. If a left wing or a right wing President, prior to or subsequent to that unprincipled fraud currently occupying the Oval Office, happens to be or have been married to a nude model, I will point that out as well. Especially one who isn't even born an American.
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No worries. You don't have to answer why you labeled Melania a "nude porn model" but give LW women who've done the same thing a pass. I was just curious.
 
Rising Sun said:
No worries. You don't have to answer why you labeled Melania a "nude porn model" but give LW women who've done the same thing a pass. I was just curious.
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Kathy Ireland is a Republican and a pro-life advocate. She is even a keynote speaker at events hosted by the right. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/22/trump-called-the-most-pro-life-president-in-americ/ Also, I do not recall Kathy Ireland having the opportunity to make personnel decisions in our National Security Department.

Are you going to continue doubling down on this or do you plan to discuss the topic at hand?
 
tres borrachos said:
Kathy Ireland is a Republican and a pro-life advocate. She is even a keynote speaker at events hosted by the right. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/22/trump-called-the-most-pro-life-president-in-americ/ Also, I do not recall Kathy Ireland having the opportunity to make personnel decisions in our National Security Department.

Are you going to continue doubling down on this or do you plan to discuss the topic at hand?
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Doubling down on what? The fact you consider Melania a "nude porn model" for the simple reason that she's FLOTUS married to Trump? You are free to believe and advocate that false narrative, but I disagree on labeling a woman a "nude porn model", whore, ****, cow or any other negative accusation simply because she's married to an asshole.
 
Rising Sun said:
Doubling down on what? The fact you consider Melania a "nude porn model" for the simple reason that she's FLOTUS married to Trump? You are free to believe and advocate that false narrative, but I disagree on labeling a woman a "nude porn model", whore, ****, cow or any other negative accusation simply because she's married to an asshole.
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Do you even have the slightest clue what we are discussing on this thread?
 
tres borrachos said:
Do you even have the slightest clue what we are discussing on this thread?
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Yes. Are you refusing to answer why you think Melania is a "nude porn model", whore, ****, whatever but you defend all other women for doing the same thing?
 
Rising Sun said:
Yes. Are you refusing to answer why you think Melania is a "nude porn model", whore, ****, whatever but you defend all other women for doing the same thing?
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Jealousy, plain and simple.
 
It’s historical fact that First Ladies have exerted influence on many occasions and in many ways. Arguably, sometimes for good reason. This appears to be one of those occasions. Ricardel rankled a lot of people inside the West Wing too. There is already enough dysfunction in Trump’s administration, one less instigator is a good thing.
 
JustHanging said:
Why would anyone be jealous of someone in constant danger of catching venereal diseases?
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TBH, I doubt Trump can get it up anymore even with a boatload of Viagra...which might explain his move into politics. He needs to get off somehow, eh?
 
Rising Sun said:
That would certainly be one plausible reason.

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The fattitudes from leftist women against Melania and Ivanka is amazing. You would think that a party that is for women would be supportive of strong, successful women but clearly they hate them because of their beauty and intelligence. At least Melania and Ivanka love America and don't say they have never been proud of America. They are for all women, not just the ones who lean to the left. I would like to know one thing Michelle Obama ever did for women in America. All she did was go on vacations, whine about being a prisoner, and destroy school lunches for kids who don't get much to begin with, to the point of having a black market for Dorritos and twinkies. Supposedly, Melania is one of the kindest people on earth, why hate on her when she does a good job as First Lady? The hate is disgusting considering they had no problems with the last one, which really did nothing to better America. She can't even practice law, just like her husband and the Klintons.
 
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