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Media Misinformation for Fun and Profit

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This will no doubt be dismissed by some because it's from "Fox News" (oh, the horror); while it's fair to cite Fox New's own bias issues, it is nevertheless an enlightening piece on just how skewed some media sources can be on hot-button racial matters, and how willing they are to run with unverified "facts" in order to push a narrative. In this case, it's over the police shooting of that 16 year old (knife wielding) girl in Ohio.

I suppose one should expect this from outlets like the Daily Beast, but not from the publicly funded NPR. We have a right to expect better and should demand it.


IMO, If you regularly get your news from only one source or from sources known to be biased in only one direction, you are most certainly someone who is misinformed. We each need to decide if that's what we want to be, and if not, do something about it.
 
Au contraire. We fully expect lopsided, sycophantic, agenda-driven reporting from NPR, which yes, we pay for and have bailed out handsomely during covid.
NPR==National Pravda Radio.
 

Hi!

The highly competitive world of news sources, particularly for those serving the TV audience in the United States of America, means that they often air information that later proves, shall we say, incorrect. I believe the operative phrase is 'The fog of war'. At any given time it's almost certain that one can look over the news of the last couple of days and find an instance of misinformation. Please note that I'm only including the 4 W's news, not the commentary.

The same cannot be said for commentary. I routinely check the AM radio talk show hosts. They are often discussing issues of longer standing. I listen carefully to see if, as a Houyhnhnm would say, there's something said 'which is not'. It rarely takes more than one minute's time for a one to appear. Yesterday's whopper was that every president gets to present his nominee for a Supreme Court vacancy.

I fully agree that multiple sources are the way to go. I make use of reputable news sources in other countries for a broad view of things here in the US of A.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
 
You gotta love NPR's pathetic correction. The victim was holding "what appears to be a knife". LOL, appears? Yeah, it's got a handle and long, sharp, pointy shank, but eh? That could be a lot of things with handles and long, sharp, pointy shanks.
I mean, let's not use our eyes and brains and come to the obvious conclusion
 


Yellow journalism has been around a long time.... What appears to have happened in the last 20-30 years is significant portion of US voters are relying on yellow journalism of one stripe or another as their source of truth. This is affecting both sides of the political spectrum.
 

Hi!

Yup! One of the factors behind that is the intensification of the struggle for supremacy between our two major political parties. Federalist Paper # 10 warned of the danger of factions.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
 
In this case, it's over the police shooting of that 16 year old (knife wielding) girl in Ohio.
Oh, sure, now that the case in Minnesota is over, the activists & the media are looking for their next martyr.

Eureka! They have found her in the killing of that no doubt dear sweet little girl by a big, bad (Caucasian) policeman.
 
It's honestly why body camera/phone footage is so important, because it's the only unbiased source we tend to have in these cases.

As we have seen in the George Floyd killing, not to mention many others, official police statements on events seem to be questionable at best and outright lies at worst.

The same can also be said for eye witness accounts in a situation like this, which are no doubt tainted to some extent by the relationship to the victim.
 
Which is as it should be, but the information should also be verified first yeah?
I suspect it is as much as feasible at the time.
 
I suspect it is as much as feasible at the time.
I agree, kinda.

The stuff of headlines is a rush to who posts it first, in the most sensational way. This has resulted in bias, uninformed "news" and detractions that appear on page 13 buried somewhere.

That way lies the misinformation that we commonly see today. I just wish there was a NEWS channel that posted news, free of political Bias. I have to rely on BBC to get anything that resembles that.
 
Its almost like news agencies update their stories as more information comes out!
It's well documented that video was available showing this girl was attempting to save so done, yet this important context was withheld from several left media outlets in their reporting.
 
Its almost like news agencies update their stories as more information comes out!


They reported what lies they knew at the time then misleadingly use newly learned info to cover up their previous lies which new info will be proven by the OP as lies when using future new info, which are only more lies. (ex post facto SNARK warning)
 
One very good thing is that law enforcement got the video out right away, rather than waiting the usual several months, after which time much more info is still needed and not give by the PD. For that, I most certainly give them credit. Being so early makes it a case of less info than might be later had some amount of investigation occurred. So, I'm completely fine with waiting for an investigation to provide more necessary info. However, I don't think any LEO involved shooting should be investigated or considered for sending to court, nor prosecuted, locally. It should be the state of the Feds. The local authority have, I believe, the ability to ask such and those outside authority the right to take the whole of it over.
 
Every news outlet, every commentary line up, all of them know who they are talking to and what they want to hear.

The Daily Beast is no different even if they are willing to be more obvious about their intentions.
 
I very much like NPR's disclaimer that "some facts may be wrong". That's all you need to know about NPR.
 
I very much like NPR's disclaimer that "some facts may be wrong". That's all you need to know about NPR.

Hi!

That they make such a disclaimer sets them apart from the rest. They also routinely note, when about to present a story about a corporation, whether that corporation is a sponsor.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
 
Hi!

That they make such a disclaimer sets them apart from the rest.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
I think not. Qualifying that what they report as "fact" is perhaps "not fact" is a simple admission they make crap up. Why not just refrain from making any statement until the facts - the actual truth - are known?
 
From my view, given the politically biased 'news' reportage (pushing political narratives instead of facts more often than not) which we have now, the most prudent stance is to not take any news report from any media source as the 'final word' on any story, with an emphasis on waiting at least 48 to 72 hours after the first reports for more of the facts to be determined and reported, before forming an opinion or taking a position on any news story.
 


Agreed
IMO when it comes to mainstream Fox and MSNBC are the kings of lies and spin . . order them how you like but they are one and two

THe Micheal Jordan and kobe of bullshit

after that theres all types of various leans for different sources

I prefer to watch them all and piece it together . . .I also like watching the complete loons so I can see what bullshit is coming down the pipe that people are going to regurgitate here and elsewhere and have it get laughed at.

No matter the issue though, right, left whatever . . . i find it interesting when a poster obviously only has those spoon feed talking points and no other info and one simple fact or simply the right question that needs follow up TOTALLY derails them LMAO

Its just weird to me how an individual can get so invested in a topic emotionally and at the same time honestly have ZERO clues about it.


Also the media-controlling SOME people and telling them what to be angry about or my favorite what false narrative to be against.

I dont know how many times right and left ive seen somebody crying about an issue and mad about it and they can't answer who is ACTUALLY doing, saying, pushing what they claim to be bothered by LMAO
 
I think not. Qualifying that what they report as "fact" is perhaps "not fact" is a simple admission they make crap up. Why not just refrain from making any statement until the facts - the actual truth - are known?

Hi!

In an ideal world, all truths would be, well, true. In today's 'We wanna know now!' news milieu, this does not always obtain. The educated listener/viewer has learned patience.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
 
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