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Measles outbreak - boon for drug companies

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Just as many states were about to relax the requirements for mandatory vaccines for students, there is an outbreak of measles that is sweeping across the country.
Now claims are that it started at Disneyland, in California. Which is also home to a great many drug and pharmacy companies. And how did it spread so quickly across the country if it was not a plot to mandate that everybody get inoculated, guaranteeing large profits for the companies that make this poison.

Inoculations cause autism, shorten lifespans, and make people dependent upon the Drug Companies for repeated treatments as a way to get more money. And the efforts by some to pay these companies by the Government if needed to inoculate more of our children is nothing but a scam to give them even more money. The rich get richer.

Do not fall for the scam, do not inoculate your children. Inoculations are death, and often contain things like mercury which will kill your children.

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Just as many states were about to relax the requirements for mandatory vaccines for students, there is an outbreak of measles that is sweeping across the country.
Now claims are that it started at Disneyland, in California. Which is also home to a great many drug and pharmacy companies. And how did it spread so quickly across the country if it was not a plot to mandate that everybody get inoculated, guaranteeing large profits for the companies that make this poison.

Inoculations cause autism, shorten lifespans, and make people dependent upon the Drug Companies for repeated treatments as a way to get more money. And the efforts by some to pay these companies by the Government if needed to inoculate more of our children is nothing but a scam to give them even more money. The rich get richer.

Do not fall for the scam, do not inoculate your children. Inoculations are death, and often contain things like mercury which will kill your children.

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Seems legit.
 
Just as many states were about to relax the requirements for mandatory vaccines for students, there is an outbreak of measles that is sweeping across the country.
Now claims are that it started at Disneyland, in California. Which is also home to a great many drug and pharmacy companies. And how did it spread so quickly across the country if it was not a plot to mandate that everybody get inoculated, guaranteeing large profits for the companies that make this poison.

Inoculations cause autism, shorten lifespans, and make people dependent upon the Drug Companies for repeated treatments as a way to get more money. And the efforts by some to pay these companies by the Government if needed to inoculate more of our children is nothing but a scam to give them even more money. The rich get richer.

Do not fall for the scam, do not inoculate your children. Inoculations are death, and often contain things like mercury which will kill your children.

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No, this is all true!

Lawmakers in California are hoping to pass a law that would require parents to vaccinate all children, unless it poses a health risk.
California lawmakers proposing law that requires vaccinations | WGN-TV

Vermont and Maine have the two weakest child-vaccination laws in New England, and as a new measles outbreak spreads across the nation, lawmakers in bothstates have introduced legislation that would tighten them.
Tighten vaccine laws in Vermont and Maine - Editorials - The Boston Globe

And when both Democrats and Republicans agree on something, you know everybody is going to get screwed.

In a rare moment of agreement, both President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, believe it shouldn't take a federal law to increase rates of vaccination against the measles in the United States.
Is it time to make measles vaccines mandatory by law? - CBS News
 
If you put Sodium and Chloride into your child's food you would be arrested and sent to jail, then why is it legal for McDonalds to do it with table salt?
 

Yes, the mandatory vaccine push has been going on for some time...

The people pushing for this do not consider the implications.

1- liability protection: if a car manufacturer were protected from being held responsible if the engine in 1 of 1000 of their cars blew up, it wouldn't be long before it would be 1/100 cars blowing up. They are covered.

2- are you going to have police knocking down doors enforcing on the few people the refuse for whatever reasons? Sounds like martial law to me.

3- what about people that are allergic to vaccine? Inject them anyway, if they die they die?

4- what about experimental vaccines, should those be mandatory?

5- what about the vaccines that may not be relevant? (Ie hep b to a baby, malaria to those in northern climates, etc?)

Whatever happened to the concept of taking responsibility for your own health? I guess now that healthcare is a social responsibility, the socialists get to dictate how you take care of your body in and out of hospitals.
 
Could not the outbreak be caused by a lack of inoculation?

Could the outbreak have been caused by someone who received the vaccination and the virus hadn't been fully killed?
 
If you put Sodium and Chloride into your child's food you would be arrested and sent to jail, then why is it legal for McDonalds to do it with table salt?

Salt is a necessary mineral for the function of your body... Vaccines are not, they are a risk / benefit issue.
 
No that couldn't be it, we need to go deeper!

INCEPTION

Why did you feel the need to accuse my question of being 'drama'? It's a simple enough question, and logical. Seriously, an outbreak of Dengue Fever in North Queensland, Australia was attributed to the modern belief that immunisation is unnecessary, and I was simply wondering if that could also be the cause in this case. It is a reasonable question.
 
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Yes, the mandatory vaccine push has been going on for some time...

The people pushing for this do not consider the implications.

1- liability protection: if a car manufacturer were protected from being held responsible if the engine in 1 of 1000 of their cars blew up, it wouldn't be long before it would be 1/100 cars blowing up. They are covered.

2- are you going to have police knocking down doors enforcing on the few people the refuse for whatever reasons? Sounds like martial law to me.

3- what about people that are allergic to vaccine? Inject them anyway, if they die they die?

4- what about experimental vaccines, should those be mandatory?

5- what about the vaccines that may not be relevant? (Ie hep b to a baby, malaria to those in northern climates, etc?)

Whatever happened to the concept of taking responsibility for your own health? I guess now that healthcare is a social responsibility, the socialists get to dictate how you take care of your body in and out of hospitals.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

A God given right to harbor and spread infectious disease.......

Yep, that's the ticket.
 
Just as many states were about to relax the requirements for mandatory vaccines for students, there is an outbreak of measles that is sweeping across the country.
Now claims are that it started at Disneyland, in California. Which is also home to a great many drug and pharmacy companies. And how did it spread so quickly across the country if it was not a plot to mandate that everybody get inoculated, guaranteeing large profits for the companies that make this poison.

Inoculations cause autism, shorten lifespans, and make people dependent upon the Drug Companies for repeated treatments as a way to get more money. And the efforts by some to pay these companies by the Government if needed to inoculate more of our children is nothing but a scam to give them even more money. The rich get richer.

Do not fall for the scam, do not inoculate your children. Inoculations are death, and often contain things like mercury which will kill your children.

Survey shows unvaccinated children get sick less often


The survey, which currently includes data on around 8,000 unvaccinated children, aged newborn to 19 years, shows vaccinated children have at least 2 to 5 times more diseases and disorders than unvaccinated children.
The data for unvaccinated children is compared to the national German KIGGS health study of the children in the general population. The complete data and study results are here.
The data (see chart right), first released in 2011, was collected from parents with vaccine-free children via an internet questionnaire hosted by the group Vaccine Injury and Andreas Bachmair, a German classical homoeopathic practitioner.

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Survey shows unvaccinated children get sick less often
 
Could not the outbreak be caused by a lack of inoculation?
Of course. The self serving partial truth idiocies of the anti medicine brigade are one of the few issues that raise my ire.

The fact that the proponents use all the dishonest tricks of conspiracy theorists only adds fuel to the fire.

The bottom line is their claim that communities should not help the vast majority because of a risk to a small minority.

Unfortunately those taking that individual selfish line cannot be forced to face the victims and families they seek to injure. BEFORE they do the harm.

And I have no intention of entering into debate with those who cannot get the whole of community risk management issues in perspective.

I had 1 grandfather and two uncles die early 60's - industrial health caused; my wife has had two bouts of melanoma (and is still here) The 40 years ago treatment was far more invasive than the 4 years ago one; my kids have not had the childhood illnesses I and my peer age kids suffered; few today's kids have the dental problems my generation faced. AND most of those advances have been opposed by the minority who have zero regard for whole of community. The ones who want to ensure that illnesses have sufficient active "carriers" to ensure the disease propagates. And they will not face the reality in that last statement.

"We don't understand it so we don't want it - so everyone else should suffer" is the catch cry.

Good to see it on this forum mixed in with the 9/11 CT nonsense. The big difference being that there is some partial truths in the anti vaccination hysteria. Partial. Hence my comment - get a grasp of the risk management.

THEN - once that is in perspective try to deal with the drug company marketing ethics. But don't get the two arse about. "We don't like the drug companies ethics THEREFORE we will take whatever risks with peoples health by denying them any dug for which the drug companies make a profit".

Why use people's heath as the bargaining chip if the objective is reduce drug company profiteering? Surely that is arse up ethics?

[/End Rant] :roll:

(Hey NWO_Spook - that should show you another side to me. :mrgreen:)
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

A God given right to harbor and spread infectious disease.......

Yep, that's the ticket.
Exactly. The fact that Bman and Koko are in favour says a lot.

The problem is that it only takes a few of them.


Then - I suppose going back to the dark ages is legitimate Darwinian Evolution.....
 
Oh, lord, the ignorance...

Your body makes more formaldehyde organically than any vaccine puts into you.

Once again, the scientifically illiterate seeing big scary words and deciding modernity itself is a plot. Oh, to be so coddled from the ravages of nature to think sickness is cure. Like America is the only place that thinks vaccines are important. Like there hasn't been an obvious correlation with the scientifically illiterate not vaccinating, and the rise of measles infecting and killing children at a scale not seen in decades.

Yes, it is a plot. A plot to stop people from getting deadly diseases. And when I was a kid, some vaccines were indeed mandatory to do to school.

When the people prove too ignorant to be trusted not to put children's lives at risk, it is legitimate for the government to ask whether they should step in, and how.
 
Inoculations cause autism

You know what causes autism? You have discovered the actual cause of autism, but you haven't published it for people to develop a cure? What sort of sick **** are you?

shorten lifespans

So does small pox.


Do not fall for the scam, do not inoculate your children. Inoculations are death, and often contain things like mercury which will kill your children.

Small pox used to kill kids. Betcha more people have been killed by measles than mercury.
 
Survey shows unvaccinated children get sick less often


The survey, which currently includes data on around 8,000 unvaccinated children, aged newborn to 19 years, shows vaccinated children have at least 2 to 5 times more diseases and disorders than unvaccinated children.
The data for unvaccinated children is compared to the national German KIGGS health study of the children in the general population. The complete data and study results are here.
The data (see chart right), first released in 2011, was collected from parents with vaccine-free children via an internet questionnaire hosted by the group Vaccine Injury and Andreas Bachmair, a German classical homoeopathic practitioner.

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Survey shows unvaccinated children get sick less often

That's ****ing scientific, that is. You're taking 8,000 children, I'd assume from middle and upper class, educated families, and comparing it to an entire population? Why not simply sample 8,000 vaccinated kids from similar backgrounds to the unvaccinated kids, or would that show no actual difference?
 
You know what causes autism? You have discovered the actual cause of autism, but you haven't published it for people to develop a cure? What sort of sick **** are you?

So does small pox.

Small pox used to kill kids. Betcha more people have been killed by measles than mercury.

Ah, yes, the "vaccines cause autism" claim....

Let us see the research.
 
Of course. The self serving partial truth idiocies of the anti medicine brigade are one of the few issues that raise my ire.

The fact that the proponents use all the dishonest tricks of conspiracy theorists only adds fuel to the fire.

The bottom line is their claim that communities should not help the vast majority because of a risk to a small minority.

Unfortunately those taking that individual selfish line cannot be forced to face the victims and families they seek to injure. BEFORE they do the harm.

And I have no intention of entering into debate with those who cannot get the whole of community risk management issues in perspective.

I had 1 grandfather and two uncles die early 60's - industrial health caused; my wife has had two bouts of melanoma (and is still here) The 40 years ago treatment was far more invasive than the 4 years ago one; my kids have not had the childhood illnesses I and my peer age kids suffered; few today's kids have the dental problems my generation faced. AND most of those advances have been opposed by the minority who have zero regard for whole of community. The ones who want to ensure that illnesses have sufficient active "carriers" to ensure the disease propagates. And they will not face the reality in that last statement.

"We don't understand it so we don't want it - so everyone else should suffer" is the catch cry.

Good to see it on this forum mixed in with the 9/11 CT nonsense. The big difference being that there is some partial truths in the anti vaccination hysteria. Partial. Hence my comment - get a grasp of the risk management.

THEN - once that is in perspective try to deal with the drug company marketing ethics. But don't get the two arse about. "We don't like the drug companies ethics THEREFORE we will take whatever risks with peoples health by denying them any dug for which the drug companies make a profit".

Why use people's heath as the bargaining chip if the objective is reduce drug company profiteering? Surely that is arse up ethics?

[/End Rant] :roll:

(Hey NWO_Spook - that should show you another side to me. :mrgreen:)

Oz, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I was reserved in my posting for I suspect the OP is Poeing us (he still might be).
 
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Oz, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I was reserved for I thought that the OP was Poeing us, as he is usually the most one of the most objective responders to CTs.
My thoughts also but....

I spent too many years - major water and sewerage programs remember - dealing with the range of "Whatever it is we are agin it" brigade with their self centred ego driven false arguments.

The bottom line issue for most of these health related things is genuine whole of community risk management using the best available technology and knowledge.

You don't let people die because today's technology is not perfect and tomorrows technology will be better. In fact it may not get better until you use it and find the shortcomings. Rough on the minority who die but without the not yet perfect technology there would be a lot more of them. Pseudo statistics aside. The "antis" always seem to count the wrong side of the ledger.

I'll give you a water supply example.

There are secondary by product risks with use of chlorine for water supply disinfection. Whatever the numbers BUT use chlorine and you keep 100 people alive and risk one dying. Which choice? Save the one and loose the 100? The anti vaccination brigade would sacrifice the 100.

(And before any pedant tries to disagree - yes I'm well aware the ozonation is one of the NOW preferred technologies. Read the logic of what I said - don't nit pick the now outdated technical details.)(In fact the historic use of chlorine and the shift to better technologies is yet another example of the same reality of progress.)

And I can frame the logic rigorously if I'm motivated to do so.

The second "big issue" is the strategic misfocus of objective.

The real objective is probably "reduce drug company profiteering". That could be a valid objective. BUT ban the use of drugs to stop profiteering is a ridiculous unethical choice.

So I'll stay with 9/11 truthers for the reasons I've given.
 
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That's ****ing scientific, that is. You're taking 8,000 children, I'd assume from middle and upper class, educated families, and comparing it to an entire population? Why not simply sample 8,000 vaccinated kids from similar backgrounds to the unvaccinated kids, or would that show no actual difference?

thats easy, its an ONGOING SURVEY, so just round up all your low class and poor friends and have them turn over their medical reports to tip the scales back. :lamo

Oh so vaccinatable diseases are selective and affect everyone but upper and middle class huh?

If 8000 people fart when eating beans there are pretty good odds that no farting will be the exception to the rule not the rule!

hilarious post! Got more?
 
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