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McCain: Roe V. Wade Should Be Overturned

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Actually, I agree with McCain on this one. However, I also believe in the converse: That the government may not force states which have legal abortion to give up the practice. The way McCain worded his statement leads me to believe that he in fact also believes this. This is a matter which is Constitutionally given to the states, per the 10th Amendment, and is not the Federal government's business. The Roe decision is clearly a violation of the 10th amendment, and it needs to go.

Article is here.
 
are you pro-life, or are you just pro-states determining abortions legality
 
Completely aside from the policy implications, completely aside from the 10th amendment, and completely aside from any moral compunctions, Roe should be overturned because it's incredibly shitty jurisprudence.
 
McCain, 1999:

"I’d love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations."

Washingtonpost.com: McCain Softens Abortion Stand
 
Roe v. Wade was an overstepping of the federal government. It was never granted the power to rightfully rule on the case. This is very clearly a state issue.
 
Gotta keep the christo-fascists happy, otherwise they might not show up at the polls.
 
Gotta keep the christo-fascists happy, otherwise they might not show up at the polls.

Has nothing to do with Christianity, fascism, or anything else except the Constitution, which expressly says, per the 10th Amendment, that any powers not explicitly given to the Federal government by the Constitution belong to the states, and to the people. If California decides they want to have abortions, then fine by me. On the other hand, if Kansas wishes to ban them, then that is also fine by me. Either way, it is not the Federal government's business.
 
I'm in agreement with you on the issue being left to the states. I was just making a joke (maybe a poor one) about the motivations behind the movements of McCain trying to cozy up to the religious right. :lol:
 
I'm in agreement with you on the issue being left to the states. I was just making a joke (maybe a poor one) about the motivations behind the movements of McCain trying to cozy up to the religious right. :lol:
and until he did that, I was one moderate Republican who might have voted for him. The religious right has done more to "right shift" this country than any other group. Unwanted children are already a big problem in this country, repealing RvW would just make it worse.
 
Has nothing to do with Christianity, fascism, or anything else except the Constitution, which expressly says, per the 10th Amendment, that any powers not explicitly given to the Federal government by the Constitution belong to the states, and to the people. If California decides they want to have abortions, then fine by me. On the other hand, if Kansas wishes to ban them, then that is also fine by me. Either way, it is not the Federal government's business.

Interesting. So if someone lives in Kansas, and assume Kansas bans abortions, they would be forced to move out of the state if they wish to participate in abortions.

Wouldn't this segment states into political extremes? All the Pro-Choice people would move to California since it shares their political ideals and all the Pro-Life people would move to Kansas. In the end you will have two states that are opposite ends of the political spectrum.

This seems to me like one step back from uniting the country and leaning more towards segmentation based on political beliefs.
 
This seems to me like one step back from uniting the country and leaning more towards segmentation based on political beliefs.
And...?
If its bad law, law that violates the US Constitution, then its effect on 'uniting the country' doesnt matter.
 
and until he did that, I was one moderate Republican who might have voted for him. The religious right has done more to "right shift" this country than any other group. Unwanted children are already a big problem in this country, repealing RvW would just make it worse.

Yeah, better to kill em off.
 
Interesting. So if someone lives in Kansas, and assume Kansas bans abortions, they would be forced to move out of the state if they wish to participate in abortions.

Wouldn't this segment states into political extremes? All the Pro-Choice people would move to California since it shares their political ideals and all the Pro-Life people would move to Kansas. In the end you will have two states that are opposite ends of the political spectrum.

This seems to me like one step back from uniting the country and leaning more towards segmentation based on political beliefs.

Has nothing to do with political extremes on either side. Has everything to do with the Constitution. Also, having states like California on one hand, and Kansas on the other hand, shows that majorities of those states think differently, and there is no "one size fits all" solution that isn't going to violate the beliefs of the citizens of one state or the other. Let THEM decide on their own, and let the Feds stay completely out of it, where they belong.
 
This should in no way be a political matter in the first place. If old white men could get pregnant, it wouldn't be. It would just be common practice.
 
This should in no way be a political matter in the first place. If old white men could get pregnant, it wouldn't be. It would just be common practice.

That's just sophmoirc pro-abortion spin.
 
This should in no way be a political matter in the first place. If old white men could get pregnant, it wouldn't be. It would just be common practice.

Women can't get drafted, therefore no woman should have a say in whether or not we ever have a draft again.
 
Women can't get drafted, therefore no woman should have a say in whether or not we ever have a draft again.

Therefore they should never be Commander in Chief who would have to tell draftees what to do.
 
Good for McCain.......Roe V Wade is bad law........Even judicial liberals have said so............Abortion should be a states issue.........
 
Actually, I agree with McCain on this one. However, I also believe in the converse: That the government may not force states which have legal abortion to give up the practice. The way McCain worded his statement leads me to believe that he in fact also believes this. This is a matter which is Constitutionally given to the states, per the 10th Amendment, and is not the Federal government's business. The Roe decision is clearly a violation of the 10th amendment, and it needs to go.

Article is here.

Since it is not possible for RvW to be overturned I strongly suspect McCain of simply pandering to a political base which doesn't even have the right to vote for him.
 
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